2018 Draft Analysis, Part 2: Corners
February 15, 2018
by Adam Taraschke
I’m back at it this week taking a look at some cornerbacks in this year’s draft class. Personally, I am a big fan of this class. There are some major players at the top of the group, but a number of guys who will be available later in the draft that will make an immediate impact in the NFL. This year I’m trying something a little different. I will give you my top 10 for each position weekly accompanied by a breakdown of a day 1, 2, and 3 prospect I think would be a good fit with the Redskins. I will also breakdown my favorite overall prospect from the group who would fit the best on the Redskins, as well as a listing of a few superlatives relating to each position. Without further ado I give you my 2018 cornerback rankings.
- Denzel Ward (Ohio State) 5’11, 190
- Josh Jackson(Iowa) 6’1 190
- Carlton Davis (Auburn) 6’1 205
- Isaiah Oliver (Colorado) 6’1 190
- Jaire Alexander (Louisville) 5’11 190
- Mike Hughes (UCF) 5’11 190
- Anthony Averett (Alabama) 6’0 190
- Duke Dawson (Florida) 5’10 200
- Donte Jackson (LSU) 5’11 180
- J. Stewart (UNC) 5’11 200
Day 1 prospect: Josh Jackson (Iowa) 6’1 190
Strengths: Jackson is an absolute ball hawk with ridiculous instincts. He has elite ball skills and is constantly high pointing the football when targeted. Comfortably sits in the receiver’s pocket and mirrors at a high level. Comfortable in press coverage, but excels playing off with his eyes on the QB. His route recognition and ability to break on the ball quickly make him a turnover machine. Long arms give him a disruptive punch at the line of scrimmage. He should test well at the combine and secure a top 20 selection in this year’s draft.
Weaknesses: Long and lanky frame that could use some added muscle and strength. He struggles as a tackler, but with his length and athleticism it can be corrected. He is only a one-year starter at Iowa so he could use some more experience. He can be susceptible to double moves when he gets overly aggressive in coverage.
Overall: Jackson is an elite cover corner with potential to add some strength at the next level. If you’re looking for an enforcer or heavy hitter you need to look elsewhere, but in a pass happy league a shutdown corner like Jackson will be highly coveted by NFL GMs. He had great production in his lone year as a starter. His ball skills, instincts, and sticky coverage ability make him a candidate to be selected 13th overall in April, but realistically he would be of better value if Washington were to trade back and pick him up later in the 1st round. Josh Norman is still a big-time corner, but he is a physical technician who has shown the ability to be a great run defender. Adding a lockdown corner opposite of Norman would make handling Wentz, Prescott, and Manning (?) a little easier. With Torian Gray already showing the ability to develop young talent I think Jackson would excel in Washington and become an instant fan favorite.
Day 2 prospect: Mike Hughes (UCF) 5’11 190
Strengths: Great athlete with a strong build. Shorter frame, but he makes up for it with his aggressive play. He looks to bully receivers at the line of scrimmage. He has plenty of ball skills to make plays all over the field. Excellent short area quickness paired with ample recovery speed. He made a number of big time returns in college and would absolutely challenge Crowder for the starting punt return spot.
Weaknesses: His technique needs work as he only started for one year at UCF. The more in game experience Hughes receives the more he’ll develop as a cover corner. He can get lazy with his footwork when depending on his athletic ability too much. I’d like him to play lower in and out of his backpedal. He needs work in off coverage and that will come from trusting his technique and reading the QB’s eyes.
Overall: This is a player that has a ton of potential he has yet to unlock. He is a big-time athlete who plays with a swagger that is infectious to his teammates. He can play slot or boundary corner. His combination of athleticism, physicality, and ball skills would make him an instant impact in the 2nd round for this defense. He could compete for the nickel corner job day 1 and transition to a boundary corner similar to the path that Kendall Fuller was on. Hughes has shutdown potential and I’d trust the Redskins coaching staff to bring out the best in this young man.
Day 3 prospect: Levi Wallace (Alabama) 6’0 185
Strengths: As a former walk on Wallace possesses a work ethic that few prospects at this level do. He showed the ability to mirror and react to receivers in man coverage. He has good length and a disruptive punch in press coverage. Produced at a high level in his lone year as a starter showing good hands and ball skills when attacking the football. A good athlete with potential to help himself at the combine with a good showing.
Weaknesses: Lacks elite size and play strength. Adding 10 pounds would go a long way for Wallace. He plays physically, but his strength is not top notch. His tackling needs work as he is already at a disadvantage with his size.
Overall: I personally am a huge fan of Wallace. Anyone that can walk on at Alabama and earn not only a scholarship but a starting spot on Nick Saban’s defense has my respect. Wallace showed out in his lone year as a starter and flashed athletic traits that will make scouts take a long look at him. His attitude and work ethic alone is something I would draft him on just to make the locker room a better place. He could contribute on special teams right away and be developed in a solid back up at worst. Wallace is a special young man who will make an impact on whatever team selects him. At worst he brings a winning mentality to your team and a player who knows what it takes to get better and win a championship.
Favorite prospect: Jaire Alexander (Louisville) 5’11 190
Strengths: Tough and instinctive are the words that come to mind when I think of Alexander. He is tough as nails as he constantly played through minor injuries. Excels in zone coverage when he can keep his eyes on the QB and watch routes develop. Smooth hips with clean footwork allows him to mirror receivers easily. He has great athletic traits with a nose for the ball. Ball skills are always on display when QB’s target his man. Plays through the ball on contact. He diagnoses plays quickly and has the burst to close on the ball.
Weaknesses: Alexander is more of a finesse player than a heavy hitter. Needs to be more aggressive attacking blockers. Needs more consistency out of his technique so he doesn’t rely on his natural ability. Struggles locating the ball down the field.
Overall: In terms of a slot corner Alexander is everything I want. He is quick as a whip and possesses good long speed. He has outstanding instincts and route recognition. His ball skills would be a welcome addition to our secondary causing turnovers and constantly making plays. He would be our day 1 starter in nickel packages and should be available in the 2nd round. Once he learns how to play with a little more aggression he will excel in the slot. He has had some injury history, but if he can overcome those issues I see him being a very successful slot corner in the NFL. Alexander would make Redskins fans feel a little better about moving on from Kendall Fuller.
Highest Ceiling: Denzel Ward
Highest Floor: Josh Jackson
Best Cover Corner: Josh Jackson
Most Physical: Carlton Davis
Most Versatile: MJ Stewart
Biggest speedster: Donte Jackson
Biggest Sleeper: Anthony Averett
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Don’t like that
Why?
T Pryor will be a FA
How effective will RSmith be when ZHOOD is the NT in front of him?
At 225 pounds not very
We shouldn’t reach for a DL if he’s not the best player at 13. And trading back is never easy as it seems.
it probably is
but getting the value you want, is
most teams over-value their draft picks, especially early, thinking they just picked the Next Michael Jordan
Edmunds, son, Tremaine Edmunds. We’re just probably not going to be in the position to go after him. It’s sad, I know.
Mayock thinks Guice is the 2nd best RB behind Barkley.
Guice is the safer pick. Maybe not the higher ceiling, but prob has a higher floor.
Your score is: 21289 (GRADE: A-)
Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 13: Roquan Smith, ILB/OLB, Georgia (A)
Round 2 Pick 12: James Washington, WR, Oklahoma State (A+)
Round 4 Pick 13: Royce Freeman, RB, Oregon (A+)
Round 5 Pick 12: Dalton Schultz, TE, Stanford (A+)
Round 6 Pick 14: Breeland Speaks, DT, Ole Miss (A+)
Round 7 Pick 13: Deatrick Nichols, CB, South Florida (A+)
Round 7 Pick 23: Cody OConnell, OG, Washington State (A+)
Shultz ist gut
Most points I’ve gotten without a trade.
I like Schultz, I like him a lot.
Terrible
can’t speak about that Breeland cat, never heard of him
I’ve done many where I take DL, or OL in 1 and 2. I switched it up.
though, if’n you grade out Tremaine as a ILB, then I think you take him over Smith
size is the thing there. I think you can go Smith, ironically, if you’ve got more speed overall in your 4 LBs where they can gang tackle, what you do is take some ZQuill, and enter the fantasy land where on trade-back you get both guys AND that cat from Boise. And then, you’re making the Steelers jealous with your LBs.
There are realistic trades, buckwheat, and none of them include Nebraska.
Not unless you’re trading picks forward to pick up their all world guys c. 2021.
Fair enough
And why do you take the Hokie before Smiff? Oh, I answered my own question.
Trump just opened a dating site for MAGAts
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…I tried signing up, but then I remembered I was married…
…ooooppp…
…according to the disclaimer, THAT doesn’t matter!
This is on the home page: DEPORT LIBERALS FROM YOUR LOVE LIFE
Lol
Your score is: 18953 (GRADE: B)
Your Picks:
Round 2 Pick 1 (CLE): Isaiah Wynn, OG, Georgia (A-)
Round 2 Pick 3 (CLE): Derrius Guice, RB, LSU (B+)
Round 2 Pick 12: Greg Gaines, DT, Washington (B-)
Round 3 Pick 1 (CLE): Hayden Hurst, TE, South Carolina (B+)
Round 4 Pick 13: J.C. Jackson, CB, Maryland (A+)
Round 5 Pick 12: Jaylen Samuels, RB/WR, North Carolina State (A+)
Round 6 Pick 14: Heath Harding, CB, Miami (OH) (A)
Round 7 Pick 13: Michael Hill, DT, Ohio State (A+)
Round 7 Pick 23: Jeromy Irwin, OT, Colorado (A+)
What was the trade
Looks like the 13th for Pick 33, 35 and first pick 3rd round
Fail. Maryland fails the 500 mi radius rule, and Colorado sucks
#September8ththerivalryreturns
I’d say Gaines is a reach in Round 2 … since he’s not coming out until 2019.
prob have a terrible Sr season knowing who will have his rights for the next 3 years
I did a that trade with CLE once….probably not a good idea.
It’s a great trade considering point values. More likely trade would be 33, 35 and a first pick in 5th round.
Your score is: 19734 (GRADE: B)
Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 13: Quenton Nelson, OG, Notre Dame (A)
Round 2 Pick 15 (ARI): Harrison Phillips, DT, Stanford (B)
Round 4 Pick 20 (SEA): Dalton Schultz, TE, Stanford (A+)
Round 5 Pick 9 (SEA): Jaylen Samuels, RB/WR, North Carolina State (A+)
Round 5 Pick 12: Quadree Henderson, WR, Pittsburgh (A+)
Round 6 Pick 14: B.J. Hill, DT, North Carolina State (A+)
Round 7 Pick 13: Tegray Scales, ILB, Indiana (B)
Round 7 Pick 15 (ARI): Greg Stroman, CB, Virginia Tech (A+)
Round 7 Pick 23: P. J. Hall, DT, Sam Houston State (A)
UDFA convict : Ebenezer Ogundeko, DE, Tenn State
Nice
Love it!!!
Tanks, tanks a lot.
No Poona? Fail
Big head……small arms.
Please don’t post any dorky gifs
How ’bout a wacky flow chart?
I’m down with that.
It would include dorky T-Rex GIFs on the Poona squares….
Besides, PJ Hall is my Poona Kahoona
you suck brontos
sí, mi nombre es papá blanco
FAKE NEWS!!!
It’s my agenda, so it’s ok, right?
If Quenton Nelson falls to #13, you race to the podium and take him.
Yeah
You take a look at the guys there, go, hey, there are still six guys here that we like, we think would be day 1 starters, and you take the trade back five spots.
What I’ve noticed fwiw in the mockeries is that both Jackson (Iowa CB) and Nelson are taken in the 5 picks in front of 13
Crybaby
lol…
“…if the Redskins attempt to franchise Cousins, my understanding is
that his camp will quickly file a grievance to block tag, based on
Washington violating the spirit of the rules, which dictate that players
are tagged as a mechanism for teams to buy time in getting a long-term
deal done.”
I got his spirit swingin’
Hey you whinny little punk. I am trying to get LTD in this tag. Just not with you. Jackass.
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JP is gonna give us years of good stuff, the Hogsty should make friends with him.
Yeah he’s cool. I like his coverage.
Doesn’t alienate himself from the team with horseshit agendas.
Craven’s won’t talk to his mom during Dallas week.
I say that warrants a second chance.
Pet the puppy
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She left me, bro….*sniffle……she gone………..
Fuck Cravens. I’m solo on the trade em for a 2021 5th round pick bandwagon lol
Gotta at least try
Sadly I think they might end up just releasing Cravens. Dudes don’t trust him.
Call Joe Barry before you do……
I’m being serious. Finlay and some other person think there is no way he fits back on this team.
I count him as a 2nd round bust, moving on.
The modern NFL player is a very forgiving individual
tag and trade!
There’s little chance they just release him
Welcome to the South Scamp! Again.
Kiss my grits!
Bless your heart!
🙂
Is it March 15th yet?
Nope
damn
Lol
Every post that I read about trading Cravens is more foolish than the previous
Trading him for a sixth or seventh is just dumb
most of the guys that cover team around here don’t think he’ll be able to come back to the team.
Meh……flippiddy flop, flip floppin’ Greg
How do you figure
“f Suzy, this f Suzy that, he shouldn’t be on the team, trade him, cut him……what, Mr. Steve? Don’t?……Roger that!………… everybody that says to trade Suzy is dumb!”
Bingo
was your name’o
they got those fish to Bingo, but nobody wanted them
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Happy Friday. Hopefully we can talk football today!
I know right. Too many days without talking football, I get the shakes.
it was all FL shooting yesterday.
Shit man. That’s an invite.
Benjamin Allbright @AllbrightNFL. Re McCarron :
‘They dont have similar skillsets at all. Foles is a big arm guy. McCarron isnt. McCarron held Alabama back w his borderline arm.
@LGMknicksfan. Exactly. He won back to back National Championships.
Lotta folks dont think much of this guy cuz he never eclipsed Dalton. I see promise w him at QB. A great bridge QB if nothing else. Will be fun to see him ascend imo.
Again the B and G woulda been fine colors for AJ.
Foles has more than one playoff run in him already, with “different” teams. Foles is worth a couple of draft picks and AJ McCarron, in the context of versus Foles, is the consolation prize.
Dont care about Foles/ $$ etc…just referencing all the diss on AJ.. I think be puts up the W’s.
I think I could QB Alabama to 8 wins.
I could not “pull” Katherine Webb, however.
Lol
I knew Foles wasn’t done. I always liked him as a QB. Going to Rams was a bad move cause that team under Fisher was junk. Going to KC and sitting for a bit and then back to Philly was a good thing.
What people misunderstand about Alabama is that it isn’t just the players they’ve recruited, they started a paradigm that raised the bar for number of (non-recruiting) staff for the football team, and it has only been recently that everyone else has caught up. They may put out good NFL players, but it’s very difficult to figure out which are really the tipping point players vs those that are just solid players. AJ McCarron could be maybe the next Alex Smith, but we don’t know.
In todays college world I put Natl Champ/playoff QBs in a different category. Competition is legit in these games in college… Not rocket science like many so try to make it be w these QBs.
Furthermore…how about all that ‘ no one to replace’ Kirk talk all last season from so many ? S M H. Never seen such an offseason of QB ‘choices’ since ’83.
It’s such a turn on when people try to rationalize why they’re being dominated. I’ll bet Saban faps to posts like this….. feeeeeeeeel the powwwwah!
Happy Friday peeps!
Hpy Hpy
heyo
Yes thank goodness. 70 today …Maybe snow tomorrow in these parts
Snow HERE, tomorrow
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Good player, but Vita Vea is better.
So my big idea is…and it’s a doozy. My big idea is, to move schools into modified M1 Abrams.
Think about it. Not only will students be safe from would-be shooters, they can even survive a close proximity nuclear strike!
Bonus…this would be a major boost to the economy modifying and or manufacturing this new era super safe classroom.
I know it sounds crazy at first, but, sleep on it. See if you don’t wake up agreeing that it’s frig’n brilliant!
Mine: launch a national “Destroy Your Guns” campaign. Voluntary, of course. Turn them into a giant sculpture — a peace monument — and place it on the Mall. Give a tax credit for the value of guns donated. In subsequent years recycle them and use the steel for infrastructure projects.
And that’s when West Virginia invades and wins. The United Colonies of West Virginia
So, smaller class sizes? Three students and a teacher?.
win win! It just all has to be done within the current budget. I mean, I’m willing to put in a few extra dollars for my kid, but I’m not further subsidizing my kid’s competition.
Aye
could just have the schools be GSA level facilities. if you’re not a student on the rolls, it would be a ***** to get in. now, that’s NOT going to stop every incident, but it makes it easy to turn people off. and what I mean is, if you have a kid who is expelled or suspended, you turn off their badge and they can’t get in, and if they have reason to get in, they’ve got to go to the visitor line… with the metal detector and bag scan.
This, is a picture of single atom reflecting enough light to make the light it’s reflecting, visible.
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Story
Click the picture. Look between the two nodes.
Then wait for Mike to get wordy about it.
I’ve seen it a hundred times.
That would be tomorrow
Brace yourselves….
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLtYmhj-0Kg
Prediction: Daniel-san gets the bodybag this go-round.
https://twitter.com/michikokakutani/status/964252684416159744
No, there haven’t been 18 school shootings in 2018. That number is flat wrong.
‘The figure originated with Everytown for Gun Safety, a nonprofit group, co-founded by Michael Bloomberg, that works to prevent gun violence and is most famous for its running tally of school shootings.
This,” the organization tweeted at 4:22 p.m. Wednesday, “is the 18th school shooting in the U.S. in 2018.’
It is a horrifying statistic. And it is wrong.
Everytown has long inflated its total by including incidents of gunfire that are not really school shootings. Take, for example, what it counted as the year’s first: On the afternoon of Jan. 3, a 31-year-old man who had parked outside a Michigan elementary school called police to say he was armed and suicidal. Several hours later, he killed himself. The school, however, had been closed for seven months. There were no teachers. There were no students.
‘Everytown explains on its website that it defines a school shooting as “any time a firearm discharges a live round inside a school building or on a school campus or grounds.’
‘Five of Everytown’s 18 school shootings listed for 2018 happened during school hours and resulted in any physical injury. Three others appeared to be intentional shootings but did not hurt anyone. Two more involved guns — one carried by a school police officer and the other by a licensed peace officer who ran a college club — that were unintentionally fired and, again, led to no injuries. At least seven of Everytown’s 18 shootings took place outside normal school hours.’
After The Washington Post published this report, Everytown removed the Jan. 3 suicide outside the closed Michigan school.
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38 mocks now
Vita Vea, DT, Washington 7
Da’Ron Payne, DT, Alabama 7
Roquan Smith, ILB, Georgia 5
Calvin Ridley, WR, Alabama 5
Derwin James, S, Florida State 4
Denzel Ward, CB, Ohio State 2
Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma 2
Tremaine Edmunds, LB, Virginia Tech 1
Quenton Nelson, G, Notre Dame 1
Minkah Fitzpatrick, S, Alabama 1
Marcus Davenport, DE, Texas-San Antonio 1
Josh Allen, QB, Wyoming 1
James Washington, WR, Oklahoma State 1
If I knew you were coming I’d have baked a cake
Where’s the cake?
If I had known you could bake a cake, I’d have stopped by.
I still use my aol account. Don’t judge me.
Ok Gramps, we won’t. 🙂
RICK’S POLL O’ THA DAY…
Of the four major sports, which one could players operate without a Head Coach/Manager?
a) NHL
b) NBA
c) NFL
d) MLB
NBA
NBA
NBA. Not hard to coach lotta dudes standing or telling dudes to get out the way cuz I got the ball and Im shooting it no matter what.
Yeah…how about that.
e) Australian rules badminton
e) ARB
Gotta run
^spotted by airport security
Sitting here in the armpit of America… Dallas Texas, in the airport watching the swine of humanity drool all over themselves and thinking… thank God I’m just passing through…
I’ve spent like half my life in the dallas airport. It’s awful.
Utter swine
Lots of improvements to the terminals the last few years
Still blows though
That stupid sky tram or whatever the fuck they call it… way to make it take forever to get from one part of the airport to another
Too bad you don’t drink anymore….
20 minutes from my front door
So sorry for you
ikr
So wish my team had shown patience and went after the guy I liked in FA ( now dont have to trade I hope McCarron doesnt go to Cleveland. Wherever he goes that team will be relevant the next day. If he does go to the Browns…Skins may just get lucky w Mayfield falling in their lap. Best way Skins get great players is they fall in their laps
I don’t think he’s that good, but if someone gets him for around $16M it would be a good deal.
Yeah, I’m not a huge McCarron fan, and I definitely don’t think they should spend their 1st rd pick this year on a QB now that we have Smith.
And thats why we get passed yearly by 2 or 3 or 4 NFC teams…
Giants be next… they have Eli…lets see what they do or if they hang w their 3rd rd pick Webb
No, we have a legit starter for the next 3 years. Don’t need to draft his replacement just yet. The smart play is to spend that 1st rd pick on an area of greater need. Not to mention, I wouldn’t draft Mayfield, period, over some of the other QBs.
Blue chipper falls in your lap you take him imo. 10 to 15 year QB better than a 2 or 3 year guy. Long term thought.
He will be good…especially w a good team. He has a trophy. Knows how to close out. Wont be a stat guy…
Cousins isn’t getting 30 million a year.
I doubt he averages that, but year one could be depending on the structure and signing bonus.
Whats up brother ? !
No, but he will get $27 – $28M.
I bet he does, at least by AAV, not actual annual cash terms.
$23m
No frickin’ way. Unless he decides to turn down bigger offers.
Yes way
His value is held in check by the wealth of QBs available this year
Plus, he ain’t all that anyway
I’ll reserve the crow for you.
A game?
The Browns had a lot of draft picks and a ton of cash…and they didn’t win a got damn game.
Rome … not built in a day.
No coach. Looks like Zimmer was the better Bengal catch …
No QB.
Please….10 QBs. Cant coach em up or to their skillset. Zimmer been thru 3 QBs coached up
Or muster 1 win outside RG3
I hope Cousins doesn’t go to Cleveland. That team is going to start winning games this year because they’re solid along the lines and have tons of money and draft picks to bring in skill players. If KC goes there he’ll undeservedly get all the credit.
What an unabashed hater you are
Abashing is for losers.
Dumb.
You’re abashed.
I stopped reading after you said “going to start winning..”. Please
Book that shit, dude. Not saying they’re going to the playoffs this year, but they will win at least 6 – 8 games.
Scot to the rescue?
I’m sure he’ll help a little, but most of the credit should go to the guys who got canned. They’re the ones who built up the stockpile of money and draft picks.
Imagine if they DO get Cousins…. They could take Chubb with the top pick and put him on the other side of Myles Garrett. Then take Saquon or Minkah with the 4th. And they have 5 more picks in the first two rounds.
Someone should kill them before they accidentally don’t fuck up.
I hope he does well wherever he ends up. QB’s will always get to much credit/blame.
I don’t care where he goes. No hard feelings, wish him the best, but he’s not wearing our maroon and black anymore.
Nice piece by Adam. I really like Averett, he’d be a great get for us in the 4th if he lasts that long.
Yep, good job, except I’d put Mike Hughes 2-3 spots higher.
We have a REALLY good DB’s coach in Torian Gray. I’m comfortable that they will replace Fuller.
Duh! Yes they will get another person to play his position but we don’t know if he will be as good yet. To be fair he might be better but I doubt it.
Right. It’s so easy to find a replacement nickel. I wholeheartedly disagree. However if were solid in the front 7 I’m hoping we can get by
Well then…you may as well give him his gold jacket now.
Nyc?
This guy doesn’t seem to get the whole subway concept.
https://twitter.com/HoldThisBeer/status/955974061531725825
Dayum
I hope he won money, cheer’s to him.
Hahaha brits are idiots
This guy should run the earth
Did you know…
China produces five times as much of the global supply of garlic, as the next ten nations, combined.
Well sure. Broccoli in garlic sauce, chicken in garlic sauce, beef in garlic sauce….
Equanimeous St. Brown
His whole name is, Equanimeous Tristan Imhotep J. St. Brown. He has two younger brothers. Osiris Adrian Amon-Ra J. St. Brown and Amon-Ra Julian Heru J. St. Brown, and both, like Equanimeous, are WRs. Touted to be more talented than their older brother who is likely a 1st round selection.
Pretty crazy story. Not nutso Ball family story, but similar in that their father is a fairly driven man. Himself a two-time former Mr. Universe. Difference from the Balls is, for the St. Browns, mom is driven too.
https://www.si.com/college-football/2017/09/06/equanimeous-osiris-amonra-st-brown-brothers-family
That’s whack.
I’ve seen St. Brown mocked all over the map — from 2nd round to 7th round.
people should just stop making fun of each other.
Yea I posted about them a few weeks ago. The story done on Real Sports was cool.
That’s what I had been watching a bit ago. Wish they’d post something more than a clip online.
To be fair, momma Ball is sick. I think he had either Hogkins or some other form of cancer.
Na na na na na, stick your head in doodoo.
“AJ McCarran is a RFA, no no, I don’t want to hear about his appeal……..”
FFW one year,
“AJ McCarran is a free agent, blah blah blah blah” “oh oh I know, he won his appeal!”
Eat it
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What? Who?
https://twitter.com/QBKlass/status/964272166270255104
Is that how you eat crow?
I always thought it was at least plucked and cooked. Lathered in gravy or q.
I’m not the one eating it so it doesn’t matter to me how it’s eaten.
So … who’s supposed to be eating crow?
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k0n……you know what to do.
Tuck it away, save it for the day Mr. Allen goes away.
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lol
Appears to be the preferred method.
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Now I gotta find out what’s really in that dude’s face.
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MAGA!!
https://twitter.com/brianklaas/status/964120446101835778
AJ McCarron added to FA list the Broncos and Browns are both interested in him.
Yep, won his grievance against the Bengals.
I don’t think Kirk is going to get this multiple teams bidding on him that he wants.
I bet that makes him cry also.
I do.
I think Kirks value to other teams has been grossly oversold.
Well I’ll be…………….. LMFAO
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Well my work day was so rough that making jokes about school shootings is a welcome break.
What was rough about it?
nothing worthy of making jokes about school shootings what the f*** Alex
I was in high school during Columbine, so, I am jaded as shit about it all.
Spending a day getting yelled at for things outside my control
Sooooo if this guy wore a turban, darker complexion and praised Allah on YouTube he wouldve been shipped off to some interrogation camp befor he could say “death to Amer…” and never heard of again. We need to extend this same practice to “ordinary” looking and believing Americans. Same standard for all. Everybody failed
This is such a sad story. Pisses me off
Agreed
That wouldn’t happen if the guy you describe was an American citizen.
US citizens are subject to rendition
They aren’t subject to rendition. That’s unconstitutional. If it’s happened, it’s wrong. If we’re doing it to non-citizen terrorists, either here or abroad, that’s another story.
If he’s an American citizen with Islamic beliefs I wonder if what you suggest remains true
Still true. That American citizen is protected by all the constitutional due process requirements.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DOnPb8iX4AESQe8.jpg
I don’t get the comparison of gun vs knife. And if this guys or that guy had a knife blah blah blah what would the argument be then?
If he had a knife he wouldve been stopped and his ass kicked. Wouldve been limited or zero fatalities because most of these guys are legit cowards and wouldn’t know the first thing about yielding a knife or machete and adually physically fighting someone.
There’s a reason why people chose weapons that are 1) easily attainable 2) easy to operate 3) and does the most damage in a short amount of time.
I’m not a proponent of limiting access to guns per se but the knife thing is a stupid defense.
remember the scene in game of thrones where someone is shooting someone else at pretty close range with a bow and arrow, and while the shooter reloads the person being shot walks over and kills the guy?
Yup
do you think when this guy’s mom and dad died, that he lost health insurance ans health care?
He would get it through the state. I would have also thought he would get some sort of social security benefits from his last living parent.
8… yes 8 of the biggest mass shooters in the last 2 years were on psychotropic drugs…
Hmm… maybe start there?
We’re having more fun mislabeling hate groups as constitutional militias.
8 of the biggest how many? lots of mass shooters these days.
All the ones you’ve heard of… like Roof. The Newtown kid and that whacko that painted his hair red too
i think psychotropic drugs would be a great place to start, but then you would have people refusing to go on those drugs because it would prevent them from getting guns. i don’t know what the answer is. i don’t want to make people more wary of seeking mental health treatment, but i also think, you know, certain people should not have guns.
…and that should say “at least 8”
The Associated Press Verified account @AP 2h2 hours ago
BREAKING: Leader of white nationalist group has confirmed suspect in Florida school shooting was member of his organization.
And I thought I just hated Illinois Nazis.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/leader-of-white-nationalist-groups-says-florida-shooting-suspect-was-a-member
Another red flag…..
http://www.tallahassee.com/story/news/2016/05/11/extremist-nut-arrested-after-threatening-scott-staffer/84223924/
Wait, so an orphaned teenage boy that was expelled from school, had mental health issues, threatened school shootings and was part of a white nationalist group was able to buy a gun? Those background checks were sure effective. WTF is our FBI doing?
Wire-tapping political candidates and lying to FISA courts and a little inter-office, extramarital banging mixed in?
it’s surely fucked up, but, protecting his 2nd amendment rights?
btw, “regulated” does not mean what it did back in colonial times. “regulated”used to mean “well-functioning” or similar, not encumbered by rules.
to be clear, this murderer should not have had access to a gun, or even to the streets of a free society. apparently he spoke about being a “professional school shooter” and so forth. that’s grounds enough to limit, severely, your freedoms.
I’m all for common sense restrictions. This is about as basic as common sense gets.
Walter, this group isn’t a militia, they’re being mislabeled as one. They are a white supremacist/separatist group.
Investigating some shit in the District of Columbia…
A guy named Cruz, in a white nationalist group?
Weird!
We needed the dues.
– Delta House
So he was a Trump staffer?
– Jemele Hill
IMPEACH!
Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 26 (ATL): Tremaine Edmunds, OLB, Virginia Tech (B+)
Round 2 Pick 12: Vita Vea, DT, Washington (A)
Round 2 Pick 18 (DAL): Dorance Armstrong Jr., DE/OLB, Kansas (B-)
Round 2 Pick 20 (BALT): Harrison Phillips, DT, Stanford (B-)
Round 2 Pick 26 (ATL): Mike Hughes, CB, Central Florida (A-)
Round 4 Pick 13: Leighton Vander Esch, ILB, Boise State (A+)
Round 5 Pick 12: Javon Wims, WR, Georgia (A+)
Round 6 Pick 14: Nick Gates, OG, Nebraska (A+)
Round 7 Pick 13: Chase Edmonds, RB, Fordham (C)
Round 7 Pick 23: Deadrin Senat, DT, South Florida (A+)
With the extra picks should have added a high end ol and wr
I did.
The Hog Sty has obtained an exclusive photo of Josh Allen 10 years from now: https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6982c510016091637051977bcc903a3a4cae10abdaff111df7bb57e231e4a1b9.jpg
great arm, but, does that image scream douche, or what?!
The mullet AND the porn-‘stache.
Fucking epic.
“That leadership stuff, that’s all overrated.”
I didn’t know Ted Cruz played pro ball.
george’s ears are too small.
Or his mullet is too big…
Allen does remind me of Jeff George. Very tall, huge arm, can only throw at one speed, can’t hit the broadside of a barn.
I want to learn how to make feta cheese
Goat cheese too
Which I admit, I have no idea if that actually requires a the assistance of a goat
You can always sell, or eat, the goat when you’re done.
Tom Brady cheese?
Round 1 Pick 1 (1) Browns: Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State
Round 1 Pick 2 (2) Giants: Josh Rosen, QB, UCLA
Round 1 Pick 3 (3) Colts: Bradley Chubb, DE, North Carolina State
Round 1 Pick 4 (4) Browns: Calvin Ridley, WR, Alabama
Round 1 Pick 5 (5) Broncos: Josh Allen, QB, Wyoming
Round 1 Pick 6 (6) (NYJ) Bills: Sam Darnold, QB, Southern California
Round 1 Pick 7 (7) Buccaneers: Connor Williams, OT, Texas
Round 1 Pick 8 (8) (CHI) Raiders: Josh Jackson, CB, Iowa
Round 1 Pick 9 (9) 49ers: Roquan Smith, ILB/OLB, Georgia
Round 1 Pick 10 (10) (OAK) Bears: Christian Kirk, WR, Texas AM
Round 1 Pick 11 (11) Dolphins: Quenton Nelson, OG, Notre Dame
Round 1 Pick 12 (12) Bengals: Orlando Brown, OT, Oklahoma
So, the Jets and Browns must have gotten FA QBs, while the Broncos did not, and the Giants tinkle themselves.
I still don’t get why the Browns would go RB with the first pick. The only thing they already do well now is run the ball.
18th in rushing is room for improvement
Get a stud RB, then, you don’t need a 1st rd QB.
They can get both
I like the WR/RB pick. Get weapons that a decent QB can use to maximize scoring.
What were we
And also, Josh Allen, pick 5, yeesh. That guy isn’t a 1st rounder at all.
There’s zero chance Elway would take Allen over Darnold
Didn’t people say the same thing about Carson Wentz?
Two things bothered me about the Florida presser
1. It seemed like 75% of the people on the mic were there to leverage their future political aspirations, and
2. It was a set of public officials who shamelessly plugged a commercial entity (GoFundMe) over and over.
1. Yes and what else is the point of a presser with political aspirations
2. God bless capitalist America
America leads the world in mass killings and mass incarceration.
It’s the only thing we’re really good at.
Partisan hack? We feed millions of starving people across the globe
well… and football – i mean real football, not soccer.
That’s got an expiration date
what? are you suggesting other countries will overtake the US in football? or that football will go away because of concussions? or something else, entirely?
Concussions
we’re pretty good at entertainment, military contracting, military equipment, military services, A&E services, microprocessors, Social Media/IT/software, automobiles, logistics, aerospace engineering, agricultural production, beer, innovation, pharmaceuticals, still pretty decent at petrochemicals/fuels, and ideating stuff and having China make the products and pollute their own land in exchange for psychologically valuable paper.
and I think we still make those little plastic tables that go in the pizza box
if we recycled more, we’d basically have China do all the low-value-added work AND do all the dirty mining of precious industrial materials for us, and then pull out the gold, rare metals, and rare-earths out of the recycle stream and stockpile it for reckoning day
Lawdy, who turned the rook loose!
Plus defending the free world from tyranny.
I dunno…we consume a shit-ton of cheese and pepperoni
Not sure how we stack up to other nations. But, I bet we’re up there.
the Italians (like, the real ones, from Italy) must look at us and think we’re crazy.
Shit cracks me up. People want solutions…so long as they don’t have to give anything up.
smh
You never answered my question, k0n.
What question?
FYI…I try to limit engagements to one at a time
Right now, it’s Greg
Re: your manifesto
Were it determined that the China is not safe. Say…it’s got lead in it. Yea man, I’m letting that shit go.
What about dank? Texas……
Apples to apples.
Dank isn’t dangerous. Any claim that it is is objectively bullshit.
Yet lawmakers in both of our states feel differently, along with many in our communities.
Opinions based not on science, but on bullshit, as well as entirely inconsistent with other allowed substances. So…
Apples to apples man
It’s relevant and you know it, I’ll leave it right there. We can talk about whenever, or not. I understand where you’re coming from.
I get what you’re trying to establish.
Give me something that says people with guns is benign and it’s scientific and, I’ll stop and consider it.
I’m not trying to establish anything, it’s well established as it stands. Fair is fair, you brought up the law, “People want solutions…so long as they don’t have to give anything up.”
I can’t kill anyone with making them toke dank.
And we’re talking weapons here, not…produce. Anyway.
The people that are against it say that you can kill people with it, behind the wheel of your car, by giving them a gateway to heroin or Meth. Do you blame the dank for this, or the individual?
Destroying any hope at a productive adulthood, stunting their growth, killing braincells, ect.
zig,
are you talking about beer? or liquor?
Diet pills
Cannabis is not inherently dangerous. Full stop.
In your opinion (mine too, but that’s not the point)
You’re wanting me to debate people who refuse science, whose opinion is based on misinformation while being completely unwilling to accept established evidence.
Can’t we just…shoot those people?
With AR-15 type rifles?
No no. Nothing that loud and messy.
Poison darts. Quiet. Efficient. Deadly.
kon!
you just set yourself up for an interview with the fbi (wherein they will ignore your sociopathic comments).
Shit!
I can hear the chopper now!
Or….. overcompensate for Cruz, you’d better leave the country, k0n
or radioactive, like that orange stuff from Mexico?
Depends on how radioactive. If it’s giving off enough rads to cause cancer…yea.
A tick above background, ehh.
We get parts from China with lead paint on them all the time, different show.
kon,
they want you to acknowledge the tiny difference between “automatic” and “semi-automatic”.
He threatened to do this
We knew about it and did nothing
Shake your head at that
I’ll start by casting my vote to dump Ted Cruz in the mid-terms
Better late than never?
It’s a start. Voter turnout will be impressive on February 20th, first day of early voting.
Have you seen that lt. gov. Dan Patrick commercial where he says ‘liberals’ like he’s saying ‘those dirty pinko commies’
lol…it’s funny
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfZ9eDA2daQ
I would love to see Greg Abbot, Dan Patrick, Ken Paxton, Ted Cruz, and Michael McCaul thrown to the curb this Fall.
Oh shit! ISIS has tanks and anti-armor on the border!
I better vote Patrick!
I love Ted Cruz.
Come on, man. You’re better than that.
He’s abrupt, a bit rude, stubborn, and a dork, but I agree with his world-view for the most part.
You mean for comedic relief. Right?
Obviously we’re not doing something right. So I agree we all need to be open to many different solutions and possibilities. We’re not number one in the world in many many categories so we should be open to Improvement across the board.
what if we made everyone go to a military school grades 9-10?
That would make it easier to identify potentially problematic individuals and intervene, positively, before they get all murder-death-kill on civilians.
Here’s a thought…assault weapons must be kept in a locker at the local sheriff office and can only be signed out for use with a permit. Must be turned back in by sunset.
Here’s a thought: please define the term “assault rifle” for me.
Military style assault weapon
If you can take it to war and put down an entire enemy squad with the thing…
Wow
You have no clue
The entire squad.
Right. You don’t.
Just sweep all guns into the Hey, I’m responsible. What’s the big deal? category right?
Hey Greg, pls tell him the difference between my Ruger Ranch Model Mini 14 rifle and an AR-15. Is one an assault rifle and one not? https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/42904b8f81c28325b6afbb444e6d1970df2bd1c8940361c841bed1762f9030f3.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/fafc69cb02883cebb9cbf4706dc6b2adab61760ff1c7fd6a038afd347dbae04b.jpg
Put a chrome barrel and different stock on that Ruger and…..
And I don’t mean chrome like shiny…
Neither are assault rifles
1 pull=1 bullet
Ridiculous semantic arguments? Really?
Again, if it can kill a shit-ton of kids…or is used in MODERN combat, the legislation around it needs a rethink.
Now please. No more derp. Derp is bad for discussion.
If he did this with a butcher knife you would have nothing to say
No, seriously. Most folks who don’t understand firearms will look at the top photo and not scream “assault rifle; AR-15”, whereas the bottom, they will.
The truth is that both are .223 caliber semi-auto weapons that can use 20-30 round clips. The term “assault rifle” is a meaningless description.
the problem is if it is used for modern combat, then it is suitable for militia duty
rook
Define semi automatic
See, it’s simple shit like that….
Waiting while you google the meaning
If “assault” rifles are made illegal, should current owners have to turn them in?
is a shotgun an assault rifle?
If it has a drum and can turn bodies into hamburger…yes.
All the murders only during the daylight hours got you
Got to start somewhere
Issued during daylights hours is reasonable
Any updates on Trent Murphy
‘ We don’t yet have an indication if Trent Murphy will re-sign and, if he
is back, how ready he will be to contribute after suffering a torn ACL
last August.’
http://www.nbcsports.com/washington/redskins/need-know-looking-some-under-radar-redskins-needs
Ah, c’mon man, we just now got you talking about guns….well technically, you brought it back up.
We’e heard absolutely nothing about him for a long time.
Hope that he resigns
Steve Thomas Team Captain btg • 25 minutes ago
The principal questions I have about tying the ability to purchase a firearm to mental health are, (1) what’s the line of can purchase / can’t purchase? Who is going to come up with the standards? Is it only those who are truly insane, or does it go all the way down to someone who just might be a bit depressed and decided to go see his/her mental health professional; (2) if there are real-world negative consequences to seeing your mental health professional, wouldn’t this discourage people from going? (3) How’s this not a massive HIPAA violation?
1) The line is: if you disagree with either the government or the prevailing social-political agenda in any way, no guns for you
2) probably, unintended consequences are often lost on people who have a religious-like view of their politics
3) I don’t think you’d have to make public the reason why a firearm was denied. If we can’t have permitting or other agents that can’t keep information confidential, then I don’t know how a government or a country can run. if the gun dealer is involved and can’t keep his mouth or twitter shut, he loses his license and is subject to criminal and civil (potential) penalties.
But because of #1, and without a really well done yet unforeseen regulation/law that has specific performance metrics that avoid subjection and attempt to avoid mission creep, all of this is moot. Because it will fail Amd 2.
If you want a gun for sake of having a gun, you’re not mentally healthy.
There.
I said it.
Your opinion
That’s absurd. I have plenty of firearms in my closet just for the sake of having a firearm. I like to shoot up paper targets and an occasional clay pigeon. Learned how to shoot when I what 5 years old. Nothing at all wrong with that.
‘I like to shoot up targets….’
So you’re saying, you derive pleasure from destroying objects.
Good luck finding a clinical opinion that says that that is healthy.
Wow dude
Have an agenda much?
It’s not obvious?
As if you don’t?
I enjoy shooting handguns and rifles at ranges and shotguns at skeet ranges as a recreational activity, as do millions of Americans. Some of my best childhood memories are going shooting with my dad on the rare occasion that he wasn’t flying all around the world. I’m a responsible gun owner and have never committed a crime. I’m not going to apologize for that in any way.
i agree that shooting things is fun. whether with guns or arrows or whatever. it is actually a very basic sort of pleasure. i used to set up army-men battles, then be a sniper picking off certain guys with a pellet gun. i used to make model airplanes and then shoot them. eggs are fun to shoot. cans, bottles. never had a real gun as an adult, but whatever. still enjoy the concept. it’s fun, like lots of other sports.
however, if i ever told an fbi agent i want to be a professional school shooter, please lock me up.
Post haste
Of course, the entire purpose of the second amendment is to allow people who disagree with the government and/or prevailing political agendas to have a means to protect themselves.
The problem with hindsight is…it’s after the fact.
We need more naps
Everyone is healthier, physically and mentally…when they get more naps
i saw a baby recently with a onesie that said, “there’s a nap for that”.
lol
Here’s the thing….
The phrase, “I’m going to be a professional school shooter”…is not a direct threat. Had he been arrested for that, he’d soon be released for having simply said something that mostly looks, stupid. Yes, even with his then history, he would have been released.
there are certain things you can’t say, for which i hope jail time or counseling time, and certainly “no guns for you” time should ensue. “i’m going to shoot children” is among those things.
This
He made a threat that should be considered a form of terrorism
He should have been arrested
You’re wondering why the FBI didn’t take him into custody. What he had posted at the time, did not warrant an arrest.
Change the laws then
You threaten to shoot a school and it should be considered a crime
Agree to disagree
There were opportunities before this. Perhaps with a record, he wouldn’t have been permitted to legally purchase an AR-15, if everyone did their job.
http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=0700-0799%2F0790%2FSections%2F0790.22.html
People are hung up over the term “assault rifle”, which is a totally meaningless descriptive, and the grouping of every firearm that looks mean as an “AR-15”. AR, which means, Armalite, 15 being a model. It’s really just a 5.56mm semi-action rifle like any other.
Have they specifically reported the make and model? The congressional softball shooter used a piece of shit SKS, yet the media immediately said “AR-15”
The media is demonizing the term AR-15 in order to try to drive public opinion. Most of them have zero idea what it is.
I understand that.
Replace 15 with 10, you have a .308
I’m not gonna go look up the penalty for shooting; rats, birds, frogs, and lizards within the city limits but….stack that with possession of the pellet gun and discharging of the pellet gun/reckless use of……well…… perhaps his background check wouldn’t have gone through.
Eventually, watching people treat symptoms will become unbearable, and they’ll lose all credibility.
Meanwhile in Japan…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaDbCpUjJVc
so much more entertaining than figure-skating.
they look like ants trying to bridge a little rivulet.
Did you see RGIII at the lower left?
Encroachment!
So apparently Cruz has a u-tube channel in which he stated he was going to do what he did. A Mississippi nail bondsman saw this and reported it to the fbi
Who went to speak with Cruz face to face
And did nothing
You threaten to shoot up a school and you go to jail. Period
The people who spoke with him should lose their jobs TODAY
Mr. Rubio spoke to getting the facts before making rash statements and whatnot.
At minimum he should have been flagged for firearms purchase purposes.
He didn’t purchase the firearm in question in the first place, so that’d be a mute point in this instance.
But I agree with Greg – threatening a school should be a criminal violation of state law, at a minimum.
Well it is certainly comforting to know that if they asked him if he planned to actually shoot up the school and he answered “No” they can also charge him with the federal crime of lying to a federal agent
Why isn’t threatening to shoot schools enough to get someone jailed or lose their guns
Pick a lane
We had an opportunity to get in front of this and didn’t
well-regulated militias!
but, seriously, if this is not a case of not enforcing rules already on the books, i don’t know what is.
Have you read anything about this kid’s last 5 years or so? The people that loved him died and no one else gave a shit one way or the other. This evidently includes the FBI.
And what does that have to do with the visit from the fbi
“we had an opportunity to get in front of this and didn’t”
Clearly the FBI blew it.
I’ve seen it a hundred times.
The fbi didn’t do anything
He should have been in jail or under psychiatric care
They failed big time
No one did anything, except the bondsman in Mississippi, evidently.
zig,
it’s very sad about what was happening all around him. very sad. sorry about dad, sorry about mom.
nonetheless, this was not just someone with depression or anxiety or whatever. apparently, he talked about specifically shooting people.
2nd amendment or not, people should have given enough of a shit about society to take this guy’s guns away from him.
Dude… I’m not mourning the death of his parents.
I don’t get it
This was incredibly preventable
Threaten to shoot a school
Post it online
Get a visit from the fbi
And you DONT go to jail???
Failure
It is against the law
The principal questions I have about tying the ability to purchase a firearm to mental health are (1) what’s the line of can purchase / can’t purchase? Who is going to come up with the standards? Is it only those who are truly insane, or does it go all the way down to someone who just might be a bit depressed and decided to go see his/her mental health professional? Can you be flagged by any doctor? Are there appellate rights?; (2) if there are real-world negative consequences to seeing your mental health professional, wouldn’t this discourage people from going? (3) How’s this not a massive HIPAA violation?
i think your #2 is the major problem. we already have a big stigma about mental health treatment and so on. i can totally see people not getting help because they want to keep their guns.
however, (i have not seen the videos) if you post youtube crap about killing people…. well… all bets are off.
I also have exactly zero interest in creating more federal government bureaucracy, rules, departments, and budgetary obligations, which something like this is pretty much guaranteed to do. A million times, no thanks.
this is not a case of failure of regulations. it’s failure to respect and enforce existing laws.
Yes, very true. There’s really no need for any more laws and/or rules.
Lol
Everything about what this guy did was already illegal and very preventable. More restrictions on the constitutional rights of innocent private citizens is definitely not the answer.
Are you speaking to me?
Not necessarily.
Just checking. Fwiw, I wasn’t laughing at you, just enjoying watching your knights at work.
Agreed a million percent
Santa sent his most trusted elf to escort in the nights entertainment.
http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/2017+DIRECTV+NOW+Super+Saturday+Night+Concert+aa_pjhuQ8j2x.jpg
Who that
Anthony Siciliano – Fox Sports
Marco Rubio has the biggest ears in the history of mankind
…and with that… off to Charleston. You guys solve all this stuff before I get there will ya?
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/989c62c9a7e57038796f2d0810028fea467dcce2bac4bdd7dd165e3b3c29353f.jpg
Rubio’s are twice that size
He looks like an Elf when he’s dressed in a suit.
east-asian people consider big ears a sign of wisdom. you know: you do a lot of listening. silly east-asians.
If the Skins put Cravens back on the roster do they have to cut somebody? When does the roster go from 53 to 90 players?
technically, I believe he is now on the roster, correct?
Even if it was 53 they wouldn’t have to cut anyone because we have a lot of unsigned free agents.
They aren’t free agents until 3/14.
Ah — good point.
This question has been going through my head, too.
First: contracts don’t technically expire until the end of the league year, so we are in a limbo state where the contracts haven’t terminated, but rosters haven’t expanded to 90 yet although the season is over.
The guys they’ve signed are on future deals, which means that the contractual rights are reserved but the contract doesn’t technically begin until the start of the league year.
So, by my reading, if Cravens is immediately returned to the Redskins roster, there needs to be a spot on the 53 for him until the start of the new league year.
I’m going to go back and look at my end of year roster to figure out if there was space or not, because if there is, this doesn’t matter.
It’s a good question, most likely semantics, but still a good question.
maybe he maintains the reserve designation until the new league year?
Possibly. Not sure. I worded our Cravens post yesterday in a vague manner specifically because of this question.
Seems like D. Hall would be a safe cut.
And being displaced by the likes of Suzy would speak to him hanging around for just too long.
I think the limit is now 90. All the guys on IR are now back on roster
In a 9-4 ruling the 4th Circuit sitting en banc rejects Trump’s latest attempt at the travel ban, finding it discriminates against Muslims. Not the liberal 9th Circuit, mind you, but the conservative 4th Cir.
Meh. This issue is destined for the Supreme Court. My guess is that the president’s travel restrictions will be upheld, because it’s pretty clearly within his presidential powers.
it is, but the civil rights act is so vague that it pretty much means that it could be “read” that anything that disproportionally effects one protected group, even if there is no actual discrimination, and the actual variable the policy works on is something else, the reality is that it prob could be used to stop a lot more things than what it is. in that way, it’s a dangerous law and should be better bounded. but because of the optics and politics, nobody wants to be the person to say that. because immediately it wouldn’t be about make the law better, it would be a hatecrime, and the person saying it would be a “nazi.” and part of that would be specifically targeted BECAUSE those who understand want that loophole because it gives them power. and power? well… … but the ends justify the means, right?
Given the makeup of the SC you’re probably right, but he’s 0-2 in the Circuit Courts, and the substantial en banc defeat in the 4th is significant.
Jackson prob kept Ohio State out of the playoff
IMO the Redskins would be idiots to trade or cut Cravens now. He’s on a cheap rookie contract, he’s talented, we used significant draft capital to get him, and we’ve already thinned out the secondary by trading away Fuller.
Sure, he was a jerk and keeping him would make some waves in the locker room, but he seems to have gotten his head straightened out. If he comes in and works hard his teammates will come around.
Bottom line: the team would be better off with him than without him and butt hurt isn’t a good rationale for getting rid of him. OTOH, if someone offered a 3rd round pick I would take it.
on this team, he’s a backup
he can get back in the good graces of the team by balling on ST
If they wanted to convert him to SS he could compete with Nicholson for the starting job. If they kept him at nickel LB, like ’16, he would start, IMO.
you mean the guy (Nicholson) who completely changed the defense when he was in there?
no. Cravens is not that kind of FS. Cravens can backup Swearinger, maybe take over in a year.
but fair enough, if Nicholson gets hurt again, he gets that chance. (I’m not saying don’t compete, if I am wrong and Craven’s wins… well… but I don’t think we should expect that… we forget how important Nicholson and Allen were to this defense)
No one gets crowned as the starter. Everyone has to earn it. And Cravens is never going to be a FS. He’s too big and too slow. Needs to be closer to the line.
agreed.
I agree that we need to keep him. Have him prove himself to teammates during Spring and TC. And yes, he will start out as backup to Swearinger. But he should be great on ST’s.
https://betterexplained.com/articles/understanding-the-birthday-paradox/
So Little Johnny’s teacher is warned at the beginning of the school year not to ever make a bet with Johnny unless she is absolutely sure she will win it.
One day in class, Johnny raises his hand and says “teacher, I’ll bet you $50 I can guess what color your underwear is.”
She replies, “okay, meet me after class and we’ll settle it.” But beforeclass ends, she goes to the restroom and removes her panties.
After class is over and the studentsclear out, Johnny makes his guess.
“Blue.”
“Nope. You got it wrong,” she says as she lifts her skirt to reveal she isn’t wearing any underwear.
“Well come with me out to my dads car, he’s waiting for me, and I’ll get you the money.” She follows him out.
When they get to the car she informs his dad that he got the bet wrong and that she showed Johnny that she wasn’t wearing any underwear.
His dad exclaims: “That mother fucker! He bet me $100 this morning that he’d see your pussy before the end of the day!”
These are the type of parents……………………………..
I know, funny tho
With different characters, sure.
RE: the Tarantino piss joke.
You can’t trade SCravens and expect to get anything in return
Maybe a 7th but between being hurt and then quitting he’s not gonna fetch anything in return
Let him come back and see what he’s going to do
Someone mentioned he’s quit twice? Did he quit in college?
Yeah
fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me! Good riddance!
greg got the correct answer!
1) starting him off the bat is silly.
2) trading him is not really possible – what would we get?
3) seems good to me
4) if we cut him it’s a complete waste of something that could turn into something good. no harm in having him tryout again.
dude’s a loser, buh bye!
If a team offered something of value?
ham sandwich?
Just put a Su’a Cravens poll up – please vote for us:
https://twitter.com/TheHogSty/status/964161642945830912
Trade, if not possible, make him compete.
steve,
do i need to be on twitter to vote? it keeps taking me to something twittery…
anyway, the correct answer is “let him compete for a spot”.
There are 4 “correct answers”, fwiw
no, only one….
For each voter. The majority will then be determined.
many(most?) will reply with the incorrect answer…..
So Mr. Steve inappropriately labeled this as a poll?
i’m just teasing about what far and away seems like the best choice.
you know, there are a lot of “magic” tricks based on the idea that is you ask someone to pick a number between 1 and 4, most will pick 3.
Walt, don’t give any more money to street magicians, not one more dollar!
I personally like the two stage approach, try to recover some value while removing him from the locker room, if that doesn’t work, try to recover some value from his play.
Cut him if you have to punt.
Three, if you count the punt.
I don’t know if you actually have to have a twitter account, or whether you can vote just by going to the page.
Damn thing keeps trying to get me to sign up to vote.
Quitters, like spitters, I have no use for them!
Willy?
A groom waits at the altar with a huge smile on his face.
His best man asks, “Why do you look so excited?”
The groom replies, “I just had the best blow job I have ever had in my entire life, and I am marrying the wonderful woman who gave it to me.”
The bride waits at the other end of the aisle with a huge smile on her face. Her maid of honor asks, “Why do you look so excited?”
The bride replies, “I just gave the last blow job of my entire life.”
The eleventh of October, nineteen and seventy five.
lmwao!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifkYHEoe6_k
i’m sorry but can’t make out what she said. i got it, give us a kiss…lol
But you kissed her anyway?
nah I’m good
Lol, j/k
A married Irishman went into the confessional and said to his priest, “I almost had an affair with another woman.”
The priest said, “What do you mean, almost?”
The Irishman said, “Well, we got undressed and rubbed together, but then I stopped.”
The priest said, “Rubbing together is the same as putting it in. You’re not to see that woman again. For your penance, say five Hail Mary’s and put $50 in the poor box.”
The Irishman left the confessional, said his prayers, and then walked over to the poor box.
He paused for a moment and then started to leave.
The priest, who was watching, quickly ran over to him saying, “I saw that. You didn’t put any money in the poor box!”
The Irishman replied, “Yeah, but I rubbed the $50 on the box, and according to you, that’s the same as putting it in!”
This gun discussion is only going to result in hard feelings and cursing. We give you both Su’a Cravens and CBs during the slow season, and you guys can’t talk football?
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Until now….
hahahaha….
I stated my piece below
I’m all about the football
I haven’t noticed the normal insult slinging bunch posting on the topic, tbf
Sua’s a quitter, and I can’t get real excited about a position we won’t address until day 3, plus, It’s a very topical subject don’t ya think?
Suzy is a quitter, no VTech late rounders on that list, end.
Su’a is a quitter, but I bet the Redskins will let him come back and compete.
Should they? That’s the question imo.
Holton Hill, CB (Texas) could be a great value in the later rounds. He was dismissed from Texas for violating team rules (weed), but was an absolute ballhawk during the beginning of the season. If I’m not mistaken, he was the top scorer for Texas during their first two games, notching a few pick 6s and a punt return for a TD.
sounds like a guy others would take a chance with. we don’t often and those playmakers go on to do well elsewhere
6’3″, 200 lbs. He demonstrated a really good ability to use his length to jam receivers at the line, and was obviously in position to make a play on the ball.
I’m intrigued a little now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkCOU5buYMo
ty
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2018/profiles/holton-hill?id=2560109
I have been finding him available and attractive choice in 5th round of my mocks
“kon, for now btg • 19 minutes ago
My family has had China for generations. And never once committed a crime with it.
But if the stuff was deemed dangerous and required to be turned over to law enforcement.”
You would do what?
I’m done
I believe what I believe regarding guns
You can believe what you wanna believe regarding guns
Ok
I don’t remember mentioning your name. How’s that, better?
I’d do up a manifesto and dare the law to come and try and my family’s China!
Umhmm.
Cigarettes? Liquor?
You can also vote
Maryland’s JC Jackson will be a day 2 steal
But like Beans said….CB is not a top priority
No Heath Harding in the later rounds???
Good write up
But no way they take a cb in the first couple of rounds
We’re going to have a column each week about a different position group from now until right before the draft. He’s just identifying some players they could take if they chose to do so. I agree, though, they probably won’t take a CB in rd 1 or 2.