Free Agency 2018: Corners
March 6, 2018
by Steve Thomas
This is part 4 of my ongoing free agency preview series. In light of the fact that I previously addressed two offensive positions, wide receiver (click here to read) and running back (click here to read), and one defensive position, inside linebacker (click here to read), it seemed like a good time to balance things out with another defensive position; hence, corners. The Redskins’ need at this position is slightly different than the other positions. Assuming the Alex Smith trade goes through, the team is in need of two players who will receive significant playing time – one starter to replace unrestricted free agent Bashaud Breeland (which could be Breeland himself) and one nickel corner to replace Kendall Fuller, who is going to Kansas City in the Alex Smith trade. In his Combine press conference last week, Redskins head coach Jay Gruden said two things of note: (1) they need to add at least one corner, and (2) that he thought 2017 rookie corner Fabian Moreau should play outside if possible, which leads me to believe that the team might be in the market for both. As another wildcard, looking down the road, the team will soon have to make a decision one way or the other on Josh Norman’s contract, which is the most onerous corner contract in the league. Bottom line: uncertainty abounds at this position. The team could address this either in free agency or the draft; this column focuses on free agency choices.
The basics of what I’m looking for in a corner is someone who, like the other positions, is not old in football terms, and is healthy and reliable. Regarding age, I’m willing to compromise with corners a bit more than I was with running backs. Hard, objective statistics that give a good picture of a corner’s performance are hard to come by, so I’m not necessarily looking for any particular minimum numbers. Because of this statistics problem, many other cornerback previews take the easy, lazy way out and just cite Pro Football Focus rankings; however, since I’ve been telling you for several seasons now that PFF rankings are inaccurate, statistically and practically unreliable, bordering on fraud, and a big waste of time, we’ll avoid going down that particular toilet bowl and concentrate on subjective evaluative factors.
With that having been said, these are my free agent cornerback rankings, as applicable to the Redskins:
Starting Corners
Top of the Heap
#1 – Malcolm Butler; 5’11”, 190 lbs; 28 years old[1]
Malcolm Butler has come a long way in his NFL career, rising from obscurity as a 2014 undrafted free agent signee out of the University of West Alabama by the New England Patriots, to Super Bowl XLIX hero, to solid, productive starter, to a high-profile but still unexplained trip to Bill Belichick’s doghouse immediately prior to Super Bowl LII.
Butler, who hails from Vicksburg, Mississippi, began his college career at Hines Community College. He transferred to Alcorn St., then again to West Alabama, where he played two seasons and was a two-time First Team All-Gulf South Conference selection[2]. He ran a 4.6 second 40 yard dash at the 2014 West Alabama pro day.
With the Patriots, Butler has played 59 games, starting 48, over 4 seasons, with 177 tackles, 32 assisted tackles, 8 interceptions, and 2 sacks, and has been healthy. He’s developed from non-starter in his first year to solid performing every down starter and 2015 Pro Bowl selection on the best franchise in the league. Butler has quality all-around skills and will likely be viewed as a #1 option by some teams. What happened during this year’s Super Bowl week to cause Bill Belichick to bench him right before the Super Bowl remains a mystery, with a few salacious details leaked by media and then denied by Butler himself. It’s not worth re-publishing trashy rumors here; suffice to say that something happened, but we don’t know what it is. Regardless, it seems clear that he will not be back with the Patriots. Butler developed into an elite-level talent and could serve as an anchor of the Redskins defensive backfield along with Josh Norman.
Contract-wise, Butler is a #1 cornerback option who will probably seek a 5 year deal that places him amongst the higher paid corners in the league. The questions surrounding the Super Bowl may affect his contract if they are not resolved. As a comparable, last year, the Atlanta Falcons gave one-time Pro Bowler Desmond Trufant a 5 year, $68.5M contract that included a $15M signing bonus and over $41M guaranteed – this is the range that Butler will likely expect to be paid. It would be quite a bit for the Redskins.
#2 – Trumaine Johnson; 6’2”, 213 lbs; 28 years old
Trumaine Johnson was a 2012 3rd round pick out of Montana by the then-St. Louis, now Los Angeles Rams. He was a four year starter and a 2 time FCS (i.e., the former Division I-AA) All-American at Montana and ran a 4.61 second 40 yard dash at the 2012 NFL Combine. In his six year career with the Rams, Johnson has played 85 games, starting 62, and made 281 tackles, 46 assisted tackles, and 18 interceptions. The Rams placed the exclusive franchise tag on him in both 2016 and 2017 after failing to reach a multi-year deal with him.
Johnson did not have a particularly good year in 2017, but has slowly progressed from slot corner to starter in 2015, and played well enough to prompt the Rams to keep him for two years in a row via the franchise tag. Johnson would come to Washington as the clear-cut #2 starter opposite Josh Norman, not as a slot corner. His film shows that Johnson is versatile, capable of playing both zone and press-man coverages. The Rams sometimes had him travel with certain receivers and flip sides. He’s a smart player and does well at sniffing out plays. The concern with him would be his health, as he suffered a leg injury in the early part of the 2017 season that affected the quality of his performance last year, but he’s a good player who would no doubt do well in Washington. Assuming he can bounce back to his pre-2017 self, Johnson and Norman paired together would give the Redskins two of the better cornerback tandems in the league.
From a contractual standpoint, it seems obvious, considering that he played on the franchise tag for 2016 and 2017, that Johnson expects a full-value 5 year contract. He’s probably worth as much as, or slightly less than, Malcolm Butler.
#3 – Kyle Fuller; 6’0”, 190 lbs; 26 years old
Kyle is the older brother of soon-to-be former Redskin Kendell Fuller. He was a 1st round pick in 2014 by the Bears and was a day one starter. He’s played 48 games in his NFL career, starting 46, and has made 156 tackles, 30 assisted tackles, and 8 interceptions. He missed all of 2016 with a knee injury. He’s an outstanding player with elite coverage and tackling skills who will be due to a top of the market contract. Despite some inconsistencies at times, he’s most likely another #1 corner option, not a #2 option; plus, something about bringing in Kendall’s older brother just seems unlikely to me, as irrational as that may be. Though two things together make me think that he’s less likely to be brought to Washington than either Butler or Johnson. He’s not quite at the level of Butler, certainly, but he will also expect a full value 5 year contract.
Second Tier
# 4 – Bashaud Breeland; 5’11”, 195 lbs; 26 years old
Bashaud Breeland came to the Redskins in the 4th round of the 2014 draft by way of Clemson. He played for the Tigers for three seasons, finishing with 136 total tackles, including 35 assisted tackles, 3 sacks, and 6 interceptions. He ran a 4.62 second 40 yard dash at the 2014 NFL Combine. In his career as a Redskin, he has played 60 games, starting 57, and has made 211 tackles, 57 assisted tackles, 1 interception, and 1 sack.
Breeland has had an up and down career in Washington, at times looking like a top-flight starting NFL corner and at other times appearing to be a suboptimal solution. In particular, as a rookie, Breeland famously stepped in for an injured Deangelo Hall and held Cowboys receiver Dez Bryant to just 3 receptions for 30 yards. Breeland failed to continue to progress in following years, though, showing flashes of additional outstanding performance, but never ever truly making the leap to an elite corner. Over the past two years, he has both benefitted and suffered from the presence of Josh Norman at the other starting corner position, as offenses have frequently stayed away from Norman. Bashaud is a corner that the Redskins may want to bring back simply because it’s a marriage of familiarity and lower cost more than the team having a strong expectation of getting a Pro Bowl-level corner. I ranked him higher than others who objectively may be more consistent because he probably has more value to the Redskins than other teams due to his time with the franchise.
At this point, it seems probable that Breeland will be allowed to test free agency. As a guess of a fair contract, only 4 of the top 25 cornerback contracts, as measured by average annual value, are 3 year deals – all of the rest are 4 or 5 year deals. Regardless of inconsistency, I think Breeland is young and is a top 25 corner. Therefore, I expect a reasonable deal for Breeland to be either a 4 or 5 year contract somewhere in the range of $6M – $7M per year on average.
#5 – E.J. Gaines; 5’10”, 190 lbs; 26 years old
E.J. Gaines is a 2014 product of the University of Missouri. He was drafted in the 6th round by the Rams. He played 50 games in 4 years at Missouri, making 244 total tackles, including 183 solo and 61 assisted tackles, and 8 interceptions. He ran a 4.49 second 40 yard dash at the 2014 NFL Combine.
Gaines earned the starting job with the Rams as a rookie in 2014, he missed the entire 2015 season with a Lisfranc injury. He then missed 5 more games in 2016 with a thigh injury. The Rams traded him to Buffalo before the 2017 season in the Sammy Watkins trade. He later had knee and hamstring injuries in 2017 that caused him to miss 5 more games. Gaines is another outstanding corner when he’s actually been in the game – he possesses quality coverage skills and would make an ideal #2 corner behind Josh Norman. The problem, of course, is whether he can be trusted to stay healthy. He just finished his rookie contract, and but for his injury history would be due to a contract in the range of Bashaud Breeland, if not more. As it stands, however, the Redskins should be able to acquire him at a lesser cost and for a contract that properly protects the team against further missed injury time.
Slot Corner Possibilities
#1 – Patrick Robinson; 5’11”, 190 lbs; 30 years old
Robinson is a 2010 1st round pick out of Florida St. by the New Orleans Saints. He played 44 games, made 117 tackles, including 82 solo and 35 assisted tackles, and 7 interceptions, and was named as a Second Team All-ACC player. He ran a 4.46 second 40 yard dash at the 2010 NFL Combine. In his NFL career, he’s played 97 games, starting 57, made 250 tackles, 50 assisted tackles, 14 interceptions, and 2 sack for the Saints, Chargers, Colts, and most recently the Eagles. He’s had two serious injuries in his career, a patella injury in 2013 and a groin injury in 2016.
Robinson has been up and down as a starter for most of his career but found new life as a slot corner, and was a key contributor towards the Eagles march to the Super Bowl this past season. On his 2017 film, he shows as a smart, experienced corner who still has good coverage skills and has a thorough understanding of his role on the defense. Understanding that the Eagles had a defense that was far more successful, generally, than was the Redskins’ defense, this is a player who could come into Washington and play his role well immediately. His principal downside is that he’s already 30 years old, and I’m generally not in favor bringing in free agents over 30, but in this case, Robinson’s skillset and success as a slot corner, plus the fact that he’d be leaving the Eagles, might make it worthwhile for the Redskins to bring him in. Robinson played 2017 on a one year, $775,000 contract, and while he’s certainly due a raise, he could likely be had for a relatively modest one or two year deal.
#2 – Bryce Callahan; 5’10”, 188 lbs; 26 years old
Bryce Callahan was signed in 2015 by the Chicago Bears as an undrafted free agent out of Rice University. He played 47 games in four seasons at Rice, making 145 total tackles, with 116 solo and 29 solo, 13 interceptions and 1.5 sacks. Callahan ran a 4.4 40 yard dash and had a 43” vertical leap at the Rice pro day. As a Bear, he spent part of his first year on the practice squad, but has played a total of 32 games, starting 19, in his NFL career, with 70 tackles, 7 assisted tackles, 2 interceptions, and 2 sacks.
Callahan is known as a slot corner and has performed well in the role. He’s the Bears principal slot corner and is on the field for a significant portion of the defensive snaps. He has strong coverage skills, seems to have good game speed, and doesn’t get caught out of position very often. I did not see Callahan get challenged by quarterbacks very often in the film I watched.
Callahan is a Restricted Free Agent, and thus may not actually hit unrestricted free agency if the Bears decide to tender him a contract in order to keep him. If he does reach free agency, he’d be a quality addition to the Redskins defensive backfield and a worthy replacement for the departed Kendall Fuller.
Other possibilities
- Rashaan Melvin; 6’2”, 193 lbs; 28 years old
Former undrafted free agent with an unremarkable career who became a solid starter for the Colts in 2016 and 2017.
- Darqueze Dennard; 5’11”, 205 lbs; 26 years old
The Bengals drafted him in the 1st round out of Michigan St. in the 2014 draft. He has disappointed in Cincinnati but played well in 2017.
The “just in case” file
Aqib Talib; 6’2”, 200 lbs; 32 years old
The now-widespread rumor is that the Broncos might let Talib go for cap reasons, prompting some Redskins fans to immediately start rooting for him to make his way to Washington. Be wary, though – yes, Talib is one of the best corners in the game, was a 2016 First Team All-Pro and is a five time Pro Bowler, but he’s also 32 years old and will demand a Josh Norman or bigger type of contract if Denver does cut him. Talib is currently about to enter year 5 of a 6 year, $57M contract with a $12M cap hit in 2018. It’s unlikely that Talib will agree to take a pay cut from that standard. We’ll address this in more detail if and when he’s actually let go.
Conclusion
Butler, Johnson, and Fuller may very well be all out of the Redskins’ price range given that the team already has Josh Norman at the #1 corner position at a $16.9M cap hit in 2018. Given that, the team may not want to increase the amount of salary cap spent on this position group by as much as it will take to sign Butler, certain, and perhaps Johnson and Fuller as well. Gaines has a severe injury history, so as unlikely as it may seem, if the Redskins want to sign a proven #2 corner and not just promote either Quinton Dunbar or Fabian Moreau, or a start a draft choice, they might just have to pay Breeland what he wants. In terms of slot corner, the Bears may very well keep Callahan, making the 30 year old Robinson all of a sudden a more viable option.
What do you think? Let me know in the comment section below.
[1] NFL statistics are courtesy of www.pro-football-reference.com and/or www.nfl.com. College statistics are courtesy of www.sports-reference.com/cfb/. Some background information is courtesy of Wikipedia.
[2] http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2015/02/where_is_west_alabama_home_of.html
New post – move along (it’s just the roster moves and salary cap): http://www.thehogsty.com/2018/03/06/roster-moves-and-mid-week-notes/
There are some terrible commercials on these days…
If we are smart which the organization hasn’t proven to be historically, we do sign Preston Smith to a long-term deal using his up-and-down career to our advantage and not overpaying. Then when we add another piece to the defensive line and Allen comes back, guess who suddenly shows up big? Yes Kerrigan will be there better than ever and so Will Smith. Murphy too if we keep him, maybe, fingers crossed, Anderson too!
You see, Adding and making a strong defensive line makes the whole defense better unlike adding say a stud safety or a stud cornerback even a stud linebacker. They can have an impact but not like having a ferocious defensive line can have!
Agree
I’m all about signing our own. Smith to a cap friendly LTD. Trent’s probably looking at a one year show me deal.
We need some things to break our way cause we ain’t exactly cap rich right now. Everett extended… now get some of these quasi playmakers done and let’s hit the draft
They need to hit free agency too .
Sure… but we’ll be in the bargain basement bin again this year.
“Last week, the governor and union leaders agreed that teachers and service personnel would receive a 5% pay raise, and the House approved the proposal. However, Republicans in the Senate passed a bill Saturday night with a 4% raise.
Union leaders said teachers wouldn’t return to work until they got a 5% raise.
At a legislative conference committee meeting Tuesday to resolve the issue, Republican state Sen. Craig Blair said the new deal represents the largest pay raise in state history.
There will be no tax increase to offset the raise, and Blair said the government will see a $20 million reduction in spending out of cuts to general services and Medicaid.” – CNN
Nothing wrong with a five percent pay raise . We never got more than four with the IBEW , but that was yearly . If you hadn’t had a raise in years then that’s different .
I don’t see how teachers in poor and rural areas can make it if they’re the sole income in their household.
sole income ? I don’t either .
Only
one hundred and eighty nine bucks a month isn’t bad . That’s gas for a month . But like I said its all relative to how often you get increases vs the cost of living . Not saying anything that isn’t obvious , I know .
or a sack of weed and a few cases of beer .
Or a Kia payment. Or savings.
Or a weeks worth of country fried steak at Dollar General.
Never tried it. But I’ve seen it in their freezer.
Any union that’s in a business agreement or collective bargaining agreement with a government entity generally sucks.
The antique corn though
You mean you don’t agree with an organization strong arming dollars from it’s hostage members to use to bribe the very politicians they bargain with by using those strong armed dollars as “campaign contributions” wink wink?
Which is worse, arithmetic or grammar?
-Flounder
Cleaning up twitterverse. Another unfollow of Kirk WV Cousins. I wonder how many more skins will get the axe? I’m thinkng Breeland. Granted I do still follow LoAx
No way they can let Breeland go now…
The Teachers in WV got a whole 5% raise i mean that is hardly noticeable over a year. It’s like an extra $50 bucks a paycheck.
A 5% raise is more than $50 monthly.
Not when you only make around 30 grand a year.
Average for elementary school teacher in WV, $44,710
$186.29 per month
Good pull bc. Average raise then = $2,235/yr. Good for them.
Yeah. I think they deserve more, but hey, what can you do….
Guy works for me got 4.31% all based on overall profit sharing and penetration into salary grade. A lot more goes into raises than simple Arithmetic when dealing with 10s of thousands of employees
I understand
$1,500/yr. based on $30K. Will help quite a bit.
I was kinda wingin’ it – flounder
https://twitter.com/ChrisWesseling/status/971184692576731136
Yeah a team would be very stupid to make that deal for Cousins.
Kirk’s agent doing what he does best…someone else’s problem now
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^ So you’re sayin’ I’m amphibious?
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Yes we’re saying you like both frogs and toads
I’m kinda partial to salamanders.
polyphibian then LOL
There was a toad without a face in the news recently. Hmmm….ah, Here it is.
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Holy shit!
https://twitter.com/salamander_jill/status/968539197203271680
FSU’s Josh Sweat could be a draft steal. Apparently he was totally misused most of the time, but looked tremendous when he got to rush the passer from the edge.
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So his weight is an issue?
Mark Herring going after big pharma.
Good, those f’n drug dealing bastards. And the doctors that are in-cahoots with them.
Yup
k0n, how did you even watch Geostorm? Worst movie of the year. High-speed electric smart car chases, really?
After the reboot of Point Break….I can watch anything.
Lol
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Man, I just got some juicy #Redskins info from the Combine that I’m totally not allowed to share. Damn. Carry on. (Stay tuned.)
They’re keeping Cousins…
Gonna do another “prove it” year.
Laughing…
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Laughing… the snowflakes gonna be hatin on you now BC…
(surprised face) lol
65 is laid out on the floor … so appalled is he.
Naw just watching ancient aliens…
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Nah…Smith still has a high ceiling. We need to lock him up. But he’s not a “force”. Still need a BEAST off the edge.
And Galette too?
Can’t pay e’rybody
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Cooley made a good point today. #Redskins need to get Preston Smith signed to a long term deal. He’s on the cusp of posting big #’s.
Signing him now would be nice buuuut damn he disappears for weeks at a time.
Hamsters made a better point. Jon Allen went down. PSmith disappeared.
Maybe… his performances are sorta up and down in my opinion.
“Having played 14 years, I understand let’s go get the money, but there needs to be mutual interest in coming together to get collectively better as a team”- DeAngelo Hall
Ohhh how times have changed for ol’ D Hall.
Grown up
If anybody has been disrespected, it’s Case Keenum.
and soon, Foles
How? Someone will pay him very well this off season
…dance with the one that brung ya’
These are pretty cool
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Okay, I give up. What is it?
A pen….Ociffer
It’s way fancier than the plastic Bic pen that I use.
And, no, I’m not clicking that link.
I’ll mail you one, you’ll love it.
I doubt that.
Lol
No, don’t click it.
A vape
Discrete.
Even more so if it were made to look like as well be a functioning stylus.
Friend brought some back from DC, loaded with blue dream
Extractions are the future here and now. But like buying on the street…tough to trust what it is you’re getting. Least not unless it’s a brand with a sterling reputation of doing things right.
Homemade BHO. As long as you’re careful…
From shop in DC
Looks like the one I use, but a different company.
As Jesus Christ said, “It is finished”.
He also said ‘they fuck you at the drive-thru’. Or was that Joe Pesci?
Definitely the Jesus
@httrsince65:disqus . I’ve explained my position on Cousins several times. He’s a two-faced mercenary. I completely get it. I understand it. He played the game perfectly. But that doesn’t mean that I have to like him. I genuinely hate people who tell you (in this case, the fans) all the right things, what they want to hear, and then had absolutely no intention of following through on those things. All talk. Again, I get it, by I genuinely dislike people like that (which, by the way, happens to be nearly every politician). If you’re not happy, say yopu’re not happy. Express how you feel. But don’t just suck up just to kiss the kiss off.
Also, I think he’s originally a ginger, i.e., he has no soul.
Graham Gano signs four-year deal with Panthers
How was the water?
What are you on about BC? What water?
Squinns said you jumped from the WW bridge today.
Laughing… he did huh? Why pray tell would I jump off the WW bridge?
No more Cousins!
So?
Squinns pounds Sand, sometimes they switch hit, I wouldn’t worry about it.
For the record, I have no emotional response to Cousins being a free agent and Alex Smith coming in. I think the Redskins dorked up the Cousins deal from the start and he lost faith in the front office early on. The team made the best of the situation by just cutting the chord and moving on. I don’t like losing Fuller in the deal and a draft pick to boot, but at least we have a competent guy under center.
That Sir, is a fantastic answer.
Thank you, and it’s the honest truth on how I see the Cousins transition.
They dorked it up alright . A point that conveniently gets lost with all the emotional outbursts .
^ So you’re sayin’ I’m amphibious?
Lol
Man, the NFL is littered with former Skins kickers.
https://twitter.com/KirkCousins8/status/971149458242088960
Suggestion: go fuck yourself.
Cleveland, Kirk. Made for each other.
All class all the time huh dirty cat? I thought liberals cared about their fellow human being? You are rude.
I don’t like Kirk (I’m a liberal moderate). And, yeah, he can go fudge himself.
Just seems beneath you squinns
Nothing is beneath Squinns
except the guy next door . Sometimes he’s even on top
Peg?
He pounds Sand?
New here? j/k.
Lol
The only thing beneath Squinns is Scow’s wife while he’s tea-bagging her.
Y’all are brutal
Like riding a beluga whale.
He’s not saying he wouldn’t help him stop drop and roll if he was on fire. He’s saying he can go fuck himself.
Glib bastard.
it is boorish
65’s got the vapors.
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White privilege
In case you were wondering what happened to NPI…
https://twitter.com/AmazingGlFS/status/971157730563166208
Local guy. As I recall, he got pretty banged up from that.
There was a cliff on the other side.
Looks like there’s a drop off. Who the hell designed that thing?
Walter
Inertia is a bitch.
Broken arm. Three broken ribs and a bunch of lacerations.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-23BEU6AXs
and free rides for the rest of his life
Ima go out on a limb and say the sides weren’t high enough .
not for that much weight
Boss just came in and asked me if I knew what time the polls close today. I said, “are you going to go vote for that Beto guy in the democratic primary?” He laughed and said, “F___ no.”
No one at Dewey, Cheatham, and Howe votes for the Democrat!
I thought Beto was the mensroom attendant at that firm
would you like a towel, Mr. Steve?
Why are you speaking to me, bathroom person?
LOL! Well played steve.
Philo Beto ? He was a street boxer whose best friend was an orangutan named Clyde
NOILRMOT DC
Drew Brees will officially become a Free Agent…. wasn’t tagged.
Perfect backup for ASmith.
Lmwao. You’re funny
My kind of QB controversy
Bet he re-ups before the 14th.
I agree.
Brees will sign with New Orleans, FA doesn’t start for another week.
Bears used the transition tag on Kyle Fuller.
When was the last time someone actually used the transition tag?
Today. 😉
…and before that?
tic-a-tic-a-tictictictic-click……………(loading)
Point being it doesn’t seem to be something that is used very often.
I couldn’t tell ya. I know it’s extremely rare.
So here’s the thing… is it a way to screw the player by NOT using the franchise tag?
For practical purposes it probably screws the player out of a little money. In theory it gives them a chance to test the FA market, but the right of first refusal makes it not entirely free.
Thanks to Wikipedia … it’s only been used 3 times and the last time was in ’15 (Miami, TE Charles Clay)
The other two were both in 2014: Alex Mack and Jason Worilds (Steelers).
NYT reporting that Gary Cohn, Trump’s Director of the National Economic Council, plans to resign over The Donald’s idiotic tariff policy. Ironically, Cohn started his business career at US Steel.
The same guy you were whining about because he came from Goldman Sach’s .
No, I was complaining about the hypocrisy. How Trump spent the campaign blasting Hillary for her supposed ties to Goldman, only to stack his cabinet with former Goldman partners and directors.
Right .
Yes.
To be fair, he also blasted Ted Cruz for his wife’s connection to Goldman.
No no. Irony is that it happened on the same day that Trump said…
“It is a great place to be working,” Trump declared. “Many, many people want every single job.”
Addressing the reports that people don’t want to work for his administration, Trump stated that “everybody wants to work in the White House.”
He continued, “They all want a piece of the Oval Office — they want a piece of the West Wing.”
Sure, they all want to be there just long enough to get their book deal.
We’ll have a separate post up about this later, but for now:
https://twitter.com/TheHogSty/status/971152338961477637
He’s got some developing to do… wasn’t impressive this past season
Great news. Love that kid.
Good kid… JAG player
Meh
That’s exactly what he is
Meh
Yea, I agree, he’s meh
Meh
Meh
Meh.
Meh..
Meh…
Someone help BC… he’s had a stroke
Meh01
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Solid backup.
solid backup? get the ex-lax.
Bacon, eggs over easy, homemade hash browns, sliced tomatoes.
…and flag football practice
I’m thinking Kirk might be a scarecrow this summer.
Rain on the scarecrow, blood on the plow.
I’ll post pictures.
Cool. Doubt the crows will be very impressed though.
I use Mason’s string over the rows (they think it’s a trap), the Kirk scarecrow will be for fun.
Mellencamp
Sucks ass
Latest Update 53 mocks tracked now
Vita Vea, DT, Washington 13
Derwin James, S, Florida State 10
Da’Ron Payne, DT, Alabama 7
Roquan Smith, ILB, Georgia 6
Calvin Ridley, WR, Alabama 4
Denzel Ward, CB, Ohio State 3
Marcus Davenport, DE, Texas-San Antonio 2
Josh Jackson, CB, Iowa 2
Tremaine Edmunds, LB, Virginia Tech 1
Quenton Nelson, G, Notre Dame 1
Minkah Fitzpatrick, S, Alabama 1
Maurice Hurst, DL, Michigan 1
Josh Allen, QB, Wyoming 1
James Washington, WR, Oklahoma State 1
With the thirteenth pick the Washington Redskins select Mike Gesicki
Alex Smith likes a very good durable tight end to throw too. We don’t have that in DC but he certainly had it in Kansas City
‘We have a trade. The Buffalo Bills are now on the clock.’
Wore my KC #8 T-shirt today to do a dirty brake job. Dirtied it up pretty good. Pft…KC is practically dead to me now.
Have to think of something interesting to do with his jersey.
welcome mat, that’s what Griffin jerseys are for
Glad I didn’t buy one…
Still have that Griff jersey though…
You and me both. Even bought the upgraded one….
Now I just wear my 10+ year old Portis jersey.
Yea… I have a P0rtis and an Arrington… but I also have a Kerrigan so…
It will be fun to watch election returns tonight. Glad to see Beto getting airtime.
https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/971141228816453634
Thank god this will never actually happen.
Beto’s good people. Anyone who is unafraid to meet folks in all 254 counties deserves kudos. And he doesn’t just talk, he actually listens.
But I assume that he’s politically liberal, which means he doesn’t believe what I believe, so I don’t particularly care if he’s a good guy.
He’s going to pull a lot of moderate Republicans, a ton of independents, and every Democrat.
My guess is that he’s going to pull zero Republicans.
He already is. I have seen dozens of posts from Republicans who don’t trust the President, don’t like Ted Cruz and our looking for a candidate that has his head screwed on straight.
They will vote for Beto in the same way I would have voted for Kasich, whom I thought was a reasonable man.
I very, very seriously doubt that, but you and I will never agree on these issues, which is fine.
And I didn’t support Kasich in the primary specifically because I didn’t think he was very reasonable.
Much more likely to see people vote outside their party in presidential elections.
House and Senate votes…they up and toe the line.
You’d rather vote for a man who carries water for a guy who publicly insulted his wife than a man who doesn’t line up with your political philosophies?
Yes, 100% of the time.
Ehh
Look, I’d rather have someone who’s both a good guy and believes what I believe (i.e., most recently GWB), but ultimately what’s good for the country is most important. Ted Cruz and Donald Trump are both sorta unlikeable. So what.
Ted Cruz. He may be a jerk. But he’s a republican jerk.
Vote Cruz!
No. He’s a conservative jerk.
Vice has some interesting shit. The episode where they were showing contractors destroying perfectly good equipment in Iraq, so that they could order more… should be brought up on fraud charges.
Forgot that was today… should be fun!!!
Is that a clean shaven Nick Foles?
PFF’s Pass Rush Productivity for 3-4 OLBs:
(measures pressure created on a per snap basis with weighting toward sacks)
1. Elvis Dumervil
2. Von Miller
3. Ryan Kerrigan
4. Carl Lawson
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7. Kkalil Mack
8. Junior Galette
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25. Preston Smith
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46. Haason Reddick
Can’t believe Denver had both Dumervil and Miller. Insane
so…PFF. They take a mostly objective stat and make it pretty unhelpful by weighting sacks by an unknown and probably ill-conceived factor. Somebody needs to sue those guys.
Makes sense to weight sacks more heavily, since they have the most impact, but I agree they should publish their formula.
How much more heavily? How much more impact? How is that additional impact measured? Did they basically just guess? Is it even possible to measure that additional impact in an objective way, and if not, why are these frauds passing it off as an objective, meaningful stat?
are “pressures” objective…..? [no]
That can’t be… we all know Kerrigan is simply average
As Ed’s career drew to it’s end, he looked upon his son, and his thin, pasty, girly man arms. He saw that his boy had the audacity to allow any space between where his bicep ended and his sleeve began. And realized that he had failed as a father.
The junkies , is that their full time job , do you know ? I was just curious .
What?
I’ve got no clue what you mean?
The sports junkies on CSN that Rick often refers too. Radio show .
Oh, yeah their morning show is simulcast on NBCS (no longer CSN)
That’s been going for about a year now I think.
Ok. Just curious on how that worked . Must be nice to get paid doing that .
Yeah 20+ years doing a radio show, still getting big $$$ for that.
Had no idea . I thought they were just local guys doing a part time radio show .
They are probably one of the biggest shows in the area.
Gotcha .
They were almost unlistenable when they started, but they’ve turned it into a lucrative career. I’m definitely jealous.
Ive always found Findlay to be reliable. He doesn’t throw around ridiculous rumors or try to get clicks from BS stuff .Discussing possible FA signings . According to him they are ready to spend some money but not go crazy .
Is he saying names of possible targets
He said LaMarcus Joyner was a name he was hearing , and maybe a FA speed rusher .
Nice
Thanks
Wonder who’s the speed rusher
IDK . I think he was referring to the position more so than a name. Resign Junior in my opinion .
Agreed on Gallette
He was starting to come on later in the season. He might not have had the sacks but he was being disruptive , He was getting close . He needs more snaps I think .
He was just starting to regain his form after two years of serious leg injuries. Should be a monster next year if he can stay healthy.
That was my impression . Keep it simple and work out a deal . If a speed rusher is on the FA agenda , just go with guy who knows the system already .
Junkies and Findlay discussing Ryan Amderson .
Talking about rumors of a position change .
Fullback?
inside I suppose . lacking the speed on the outside .
He’s got a frame where you could have him bulk up and play DE.
Dude is wider than anyone on the team.
Exactly what I thought , He has the frame for it . Just thinking that .
He’s only 6’2
Yes he’s not the tallest guy, but I’d bet that if you measured him from shoulder to shoulder, he’s wider than anyone on the DL.
They said he works hard . Its not because he doesn’t prepare right .
Always the knock on this guy. Great motor, but doesn’t exhbit the physical traits to make it at this level. Hopefully they can find a position that works for him.
ILB
MLB
I think so. might make sense.
Punter
smoked brisket with cheddar and bbq sauce on a big sammich roll.
I’d go pannini style with that, some good bread but grill it so it’s a manageable sammich
I’d cut out the dough and leave just enough to keep a hold of the brisket.
That would work too.
I’ve outdone myself , for real. It’s all that .
I’m lying . Went to a deli shop and bought it . Its good though .
Homemade roasted jalapeno hummus on a triscuit.
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Nice
https://twitter.com/TheHogSty/status/971128974855294978
2 be fair 26-30-1
Our best 3 consecutive seasons since the late 80’s early 90’s.
As sad as that is, yes.
Woodrow Wilson bridge closed. There’s a jumper on the bridge holding a Kirk Cousins Blow-up Doll. We all know who it is.
Grant Paulsen.
LOL… I was thinking of someone a little less well known, but certainly known to all of the bloggers…..
If he’s holding a blow up doll he doesn’t really want to drown, let him jump.
Don’t do it Hope!
Flounder is there with a note explaining everything, but Hope couldn’t make any sense out of it
jump!
So I’ve never heard of a team doing this before, the Philadelphia Soul announced a Jewish Heritage Night.
sponsored by Hebrew National
I mean if they aren’t they messed up.
Damn good hot dogs.
so, the soul is a canasta team?
I’d rather be at the Geneva Auto Show.
The Toyko auto show is the one I most want to see.
Sashimi, Kobe beef and my near fetish for Asian women has nothing to do with it. Would be there strictly for the cars.
Oh really?? – mrs kon
Got my primary vote in.
The republican side was selling NRA memberships.
The democratic side was offering free massages and bonus happy ending with a donation to Planned Parenthood.
I retain my right to keep my vote private : )
Whats a Z jay?
https://twitter.com/GeriatricGenius/status/970816180515753984
You took the pegging, didn’t you…
At a church? Come on man!
You did it for the Lord, bless your heart!
who wins a playoff game first? kirk or the redskins? who wins a superb owl first?
I think that would be Temple
Maybe Rice.
Can it just be a regular owl
Does it have to be superb?
anyone can win regular owls… that’s for babies.
…
That said, Keenum Plopped down to earth in that NFC championsho game like a turd after texmex. Horrible way to go into free agency.
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Like KC in that playoff loss to Green Bay (which was over two years ago)?
Yup. We chose to BS. Appears Vikings are going totally different direction. Or at least considering. Intriguing
They c an have him at that cost he will not take them anywhere he throws to many clutch Int’s doesn’t have what it takes to win big time playoff games.
As NPI ‘s bar friend told him, “KC’s a pussy.”
*smash cut*
Vikings sign him to mega deal, immediately trade him to Cleveland for first overall pick and 2nd rounder, sign Keenum to five year deal for same money they signed kirk to 3.
THAT would be awesome!
Agent got caught starring at all that g’d money and didn’t miss they took out the no trade clause in the final draft.
The FO didn’t bullshit. They pegged him from the get go. All he had going for him was the team having no better option. Which was a pretty low bar by the way.
Yea we BSd. Never planned on life without Kirk with no plans to actually do whatever it took to sign him. So we trade for Smith along with giving up a young DB. We always seem to be about 1-2 steps behind in this regard. Maybe most teams are and we’re just like any other franchise. Seems we haven’t really had a plan for a while.
Reel in getting stupid sending out Redskin’s One for over the hill FAs…✓
Change the culture in the locker room…✓
Bring in football guys…✓
Improve scouting…✓
Figure out how to get through a season with no injuries to every key player on the roster………..
Cut Norman…….
Fire Jay………
What football guys did we bring in? How did we improve scouting? Or are you referring to the post Vinny era? Hmm. That’s a low bar but ok. I’m ecstatic we stopped doing dumb shit like FA spending and over the Hill players. Glass half full…
Bell gets officially FT’ed 2nd year in a row
Who the F would do that? Oh, wait.
“can a guy really tell the difference btwn having 70 or 80 or 90 million in the bank?” –WiFC
if it were 90 million
32% goes to Uncle Sammy
9.85% goes to Sven der Viking Governor (forget for a second that entertainers pay income tax differently)
3% goes to the Agent
10% goes to the tithe
minus, FICA, retirement, health insurance and other withholding
he’s lucky to get 40% in a paycheck. So, in five years he might gross 134 mil, but only see in his bank account about 50 million. And if he’s smart $11K a year goes into an IRA.
Become an atheist, keep that 10% and you still end up in the same place.
Also, what’s the deal with health insurance in the NFL?
They use Blue Cross or we talking an HMO?
I imagine they have a choice between a couple of plans, but I don’t know. I suppose they get it taken out like everyone else, but maybe they pay nothing for it.
https://twitter.com/AP/status/970803835458457605
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This is insane. In the Obama White House, I even made people quit uncompensated non-profit outside positions because of conflicts risks. This is FOR profit work that could conflict with official duties. Prediction: by end of Trump admin, prisons will be full of his associates
rank and file have to fill out an OGE 450 every year and that’d never fly
gtfoh
I just heard an interview with him. He thinks Jared in particular has put himself in serious legal jeopardy.
Trump meets with Swedish prime minister
x Saab — defunct
x Volvo — Chinese
x Ikea — makes most of their stuff in Eastern Europe
I think we’re done here.
Right then.
No wonder I can’t put this fucking bookshelf together – flounder
I still don’t buy the Vikings proposed offer. I think all the teams involved in the Cousins sweepstakes are getting sticker shock…they all are trying to figure out the minimum they can get away with…..sell him on a defense and best place to raise his kids.
I think Zimmer, being a defensive guy, would hate it if they used that much cap on Cousins.
Bizarre decision. He has two decent to good QBs that would be markedly cheaper and effective as good as they are on the ground and defensively. Doesn’t make sense to me.
That said, Keenum Plopped down to earth in that NFC championsho game like a turd after texmex. Horrible way to go into free agency.
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Question…:.how did the #Vikings secondary play in the playoffs again? Does Kirk Cousins play corner too?
would be funny if the Vikings are leveraging the situation, and basically spin move to a Alex Smith like deal for Case Keenum… which would diminish the fact they paid him a ton of money, but it would seem far less so after the 91 mil over 3 years PR spin.
cartoonish funny endpoint:
Foles to the Jets
AJ + draft pick Broncos
Vikings Keenum
After 4 games, Kirk Cousins is backing up Kaepernick in Arizona.
What’s the Zack Brown contract gonna look like?
man, whatever it looks like, i hope it’s signed by snyder. i don’t want to let brown get away. the guy is a tackle machine.
I stand by what I said in my ILB preview – I think the Redskins can do better. Love Zach, but the dude just can’t cover anyone, even though he should be able to do it.
if that’s the case, don’t make him cover people. he is like a magnet attracted to the ball-carrier’s steel. he just cuts through all the traffic and finds the ball.
Falcon is on the tower
https://biodiversity.utexas.edu/resources/falcon-cam
Did you vote in the primaries today?
I was the first to early vote at my polling station on Day 1 of early voting.
But you voted today, right?
No that would be a sleazy, lying, cheating Republican thing to do.
That’s a song, isn’t it? Patty Loveless or something…..
Too many dead people and illegal aliens in line.
-Trump
I still haven’t voted in the GOP primary yet, but I’ll do it on my way home tonight. The general election this year might be the first time in my life that I vote straight party. I’ve never done that and I usually vote for a democrat or 2 on some on the local races.
I usually vote for the candidate who either best reflects my values or the candidate whom I believe can do the best job, and I have voted Dem and Rep. Probably would have voted for Kasich, because I believe the GOP House & Senate would have blocked anything Hillary tried to accomplish, much like they tried to do with Obama.
Pretty sure I’m going straight Democratic this Fall. I detest Ted Cruz, and have no use for my Congressman, Michael McCaul. I’d like to see Greg Abbott roll himself off a cliff, Dan Patrick arrested for child porn, and Ken Paxton in jail for the securities fraud felonies that he’s already been charged with.
Ted Cruz is pretty unlikeable, and I’ve heard from folks who’ve been around him that he’s the same way privately, but I’m more or less in line with what he believes, as I am with Abbott.
my brother-in-law’s methodology is to NEVER vote for the incumbent. seems a little simplistic to me, but i understand the impetus.
I’d be stuck voting for all democrats every year if I did that.
I expect the Democrats to elect near commie-fascists in the mid terms as what they feel as an appropriate counterpoint to Trump, though Trump is actually not screaming far right like they pretend. What I am saying is, if you think Trump (and insert the Congressmen/women you hate here) are as bad as it gets, just wait til what’s next. Trump was voted in as the un candidate. What’s next could end empire (either way).
i consider pence and the like worse than trump. he actually HAS morals, with which i disagree. trump has no morals.
I take a different tack, wif. I don’t particularly like Pence, and I don’t agree with his views, but because he has morals, I prefer him to the Donald.
this is why we should explore a more con-federal arrangement. On the spectrum, not fully con-federal. relative to where we are now.
the problem is that the globalists don’t want that. they want and envision a government that is global, such that instead of country by country, they can lord over the entire planet by winning the biggest popularity contest of them all.
the pen is mightier than the sword!
so long as the one with the pen has the greatest military of all times.
It’s telling to me anyway, that despite all that the team did for him he refused to negotiate with them
I get why he chose this path but he needs to be up front about it
He better choose glowing reviews when speaking of this team
i think we hurt his feewings…
Never got the love RGIII got when he was here from either the team or the fans. Bitter about it.
What’s fun, is watching the experts come thrashing back in from the brush, torn and tattered, as you comfortably sip your coffee, beside a warm campfire, while the spring of life whispers crystal clear life, just behind you. Their faces taut and weather beaten, eyes darting hungrily at your well established camp.
Slow day
https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/971094597458972673
Official draft pick order is out. Here’s our picks:
Round 1, pick 13 (13 overall)
Round 2, pick 12 (44)
Round 4, pick 13 (113)
Round 5, pick 12 (149)
Round 6, pick 14 (188)
Round 7, pick 13 (231)
Round 7, pick 23 (241)
Yuck
where’s the 3rd round pick? since the trade isn’t official, it’s not officially Kansas City’s
It’s gone
Nooooo!!!
good point, mike
QB’s that got paid big money and didn’t do shit are the ones that finessed the system.
Right?
Matt Flynn
Robert Griffin The Third
Sam Bradford
Any 1st Round QB before the Rookie Scale who wasn’t starter quality
I wouldn’t say guys on their rookie deals finessed the system. That’s just how it worked/works.
Heath Shuler
Cmon, Flound, give credit where due. The vast majority of QBs with 1/2 a season of success would have taken a 3-year deal for $15 or so million. After getting tagged once the vast majority would have worked out a LTD for $24 – $25M. Cousins stood his ground and it looks like he’s going to get $30M+ and he’ll at least get to choose between a few teams.
he could be setting a g’d money precedence and a QB % bar that could have an unintended consequence of having about 52 players per team making less money.
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REPORT: Vikings set to offer Kirk Cousins huge 3-year, $91 million fully guaranteed deal
And this is not tampering how?
Sure it is but nobody cares.
I want to feel tampered with – Kirk
Wow no thanks have fun with that.
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Would be really hard for anyone to top that deal. $30m a year, fully guaranteed, on a stacked team, with another chance at a payday in his early 30’s.
That is what he wanted a short deal it’s also why he never wanted to sign long term here.
So Kirk boogerhook’d flounder and the FO?
Didn’t do shit to me and really didn’t do anything to the FO’s they got what they wanted out of him let some other team make the mistake of signing him long term.
But….but……the finesse…..
LOL
He made good money no doubt.
Cousins down to Vikings/Jets
money is on Vikings much closer to Michigan and his family
Vikings offense very close to ours, better defense to help him out
Vikes don’t seem like the team to pay that much for a QB but I guess we will see.
They wont make it as far with him as they did last year.
he’s better than keenum.
You changing your bet? You were firmly in the Jets camp.
I hope the Jets trade for Foles, and like… SOON.
-The Vikings
go, jets, go!
if i were him, i’d choose denver or minnesota just based on the team around him. he’s already banked over 40 mil, and will get at least that much more guaranteed. can a guy really tell the difference btwn having 70 or 80 or 90 million in the bank?
Photos of Burmese python swallowing deer released by Florida officials
http://www.foxnews.com/science/2018/03/02/photos-burmese-python-swallowing-deer-released-by-florida-officials.html
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wow… cool. and, damn, invasive species… (you know, like humans numbering in the millions).
Careful Walt, without Rome, you’re likely that deer.
i was just talking about the florida ecosystem, but i suppose it applies globally. hey, i am totally enjoying our status as #1 life form on earth. however, it carries responsibility. and i do not see the population explosion ending for quite a while.
We need a global natural disaster, or world war……
https://twitter.com/RGIII/status/971087447613431809
So now he’s taking up golf?
Still working on the 7-step drop.
that’s a lot of wives to run through in such a short time
He’s counting down days, to something.
https://twitter.com/LanceZierlein/status/971083773054996480
Just our luck we wind up with Warren Freakin’ Buffett as our QB.
Oh please he didn’t finesse anything.
Nashville Mayor Megan Barry Pleads Guilty to Theft and Agrees to Resign
Never vote for a Barry for Mayor
Try to forgive him! – people of the District of Columbia
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Kind of funny
Is this an honor?
https://twitter.com/_willcompton/status/971075206784565248
He stole that from RG drama king .
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The #Rams are franchise tagging S Lamarcus Joyner. A top safety is kept in the fold. LA will try to keep WR Sammy Watkins, as well.
I never thought for a second they would gamble with Joyner over Watkins . Good safety’s hard to come by as we all know
Elway taking a pass on Cousins reportedly . Too expensive . Josh Rosen is the plan .
Will Rosen still be there when they pick?
IDK ,.
I’m just looking at the idiot box so take it with a grain of salt .
Hard to say what anyone is doing at this point
That’s what I think as well. Why would they tip their hand ?
Enunwa is a name to be mindful of
RFA
he’s basically a nickel LB playing WR
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to our 2 newest @NFL referees, former BJ Shawn Hochuli & former SJ
Alex Kemp. Best wishes to our 2 retiring referees, Ed Hochuli & Jeff
Triplette.
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Really, you should always type out Back Judge.
ARob is actually younger than Doctson.
8 Months
And his dick is 6 inches longer.
Taking your word for it
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I would go into a lower tier/price point. Jordan Matthews, John Brown, Taylor Gabriel.
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If I’m the #Redskins, I’m not touching Allen Robinson off a torn ACL. Yes, they’ll medically clear him – but they have a shaky history in that area – and I’m not giving him a multi-year, big $ deal until I see him play football again. If he’s great somewhere else, so be it..
One year prove it deal
Most players need two full years to fully recover from an ACL.
This is why I said he might have to go the prove deal route.
Allen Robinson + Kirk Cousins —> Jets
Robinson + Enunwa + Kearse
Two people have been arrested after appearing at the Texas church where more than two-dozen worshipers were gunned down
and claiming the attack was staged. The pastor of First Baptist Church in Sutherland Springs, southeast of San Antonio, told the San Antonio Express-News that the pair appeared Monday and claimed the shooting was fabricated by the U.S. government.
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dang gum gubernment trying to take our guns from us
–Conspiracy Nutjobs
bunch of idiots
‘The Wilson County Sheriff’s Office declined to provide charging information on Robert Ussery, 54, who founded conspiracy website Side Thorn, and his partner Jodi Mann, 56, who is referred to as “Conspiracy Granny” online. The booking process was not complete Monday evening and no information would be made available until Tuesday, a supervisor there said.
Ussery “continually yelled and screamed and hollered and told me he was gonna hang me from a tree, and pee on me while I’m hanging,” said Frank Pomeroy, the pastor.
Pomeroy said he was in his car by the church when the pair approached the building, and he intervened when Mann began to write in large, loopy writing on a poster left for well-wishers to sign, “The truth shall set you free.”
The pair believe the church shooting was staged by accomplices of the government, though Pomeroy, whose 14-year-old daughter was killed there, knows better.
Pomeroy said Ussery didn’t recognize him at first, but once he did, he started yelling at him. Meanwhile, Rod Green, a local resident and member of the congregation, called the police.’
“He kept trying to bait us to do something dumb,” Pomeroy said
https://www.expressnews.com/news/local/article/Pair-arrested-after-harassing-pastor-in-12730245.php
So is it a pair, or a bunch, or a bunch of pairs?
one word,
Texas
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Live 2018 NFL Mock Draft underway. Browns pick QB Sam Darnold, Giants take RB Saquon Barkley – http://walterfootball.com/draft2018.php
God please no
on one hand, I get it.
on the other hand… why?
as to the picks…
on one hand I get it.
on the other hand, if you don’t plan on picking top 2 again, don’t you need your next QB or LT? (Left Tackle or Lawrence Taylor)
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Congratulations to our 2 newest @NFL referees, former BJ Shawn Hochuli & former SJ Alex Kemp. Best wishes to our 2 retiring referees, Ed Hochuli & Jeff Triplette.
I saw Ed Hochuli speak at a conference once. He was really, really psyched to be Ed Hochuli.
Haha 24 inch pythons
His speech was alot of, “so I was talking to John Elway….” sort of stuff.
Glad Triplette is done…he sucked and dicked us over many many times over the years.
Hochuli was terrible, too
Ed’s son is coming on.
Not another Ed…
Damn look at these Cleveland Picks.
https://twitter.com/Browns/status/971050216903331840
And a rumor that Denver wants that 1st overall pick.
*slumps shoulders*
-AJ McCarron
todays the last day for tag n trade!
-Bruce
HA, only one 7th rounder and we’ve got TWO!
They will miss on more than half those picks.
Not this year they won’t.
They hired the Chiefs former GM.
7-9 teams should be spending their cap money to get better, not cutting their best players to save money. Norman is one of our best if not best players.
That’s why we’d like to see him rework his contract.
well maybe he will. maybe he won’t….but we need him on the team for sure.
Money being limited, it’s a question of how best to distribute it to maximize wins. If you’re overpaying someone — even a very good player — it’s not a good situation.
Minnesota losses draft pick from tampering with Cousins.
4 reelz?
they have to give their next three 1sts and a 2nd rounder to the Skins
If they do tamper, which I’m sure they have in some degree they should lose picks.
Oh, your prediction, roger that.
I wouldn’t suggest we cut Norman though. We are already looking at having Moreau play a significant role with no experience and Dunbar potentially stepping into a starting role which he’s never done. I’m not comfortable losing Norman too.
I agree. Trading Fuller killed that chance. I was just saying he’s really the only player we could feasibly cut in order to save a lot of money.
Gotcha
Nice punt return there.
So like 3 different people came and told me Cousins signed with Minnesota?…I’m like he can’t until next week. Where are they getting their info? #fakenews.
If I was in the same office as you and knew you were borderline obsessive…yea, I’d be messing with you too.
Hey man…..lol
One did cite Burgundy Blog……….
Ohio retarded mother, local news
http://www.times-gazette.com/news/20180305/update-mom-returned-to-work-after-checking-daughters-gunshot-wound-prosecutor-says
A $5 trigger lock would’ve prevented that from happening.
Notice how this is the only story that reports it as a .22 caliber, and yes, it would have. I’m hoping that all of the guns are removed from this house. There’s something going on with that family.
So Norman broke three ribs and punctured his lung, was slated to miss 4 weeks, comes back after two weeks for the Pukes game, and weenie hamsters say he underperformed………right.
He wasn’t even that great in 2016. Top 20 CB, sure, but he’s being paid like a top 3 CB.
I think it’s just the amount of cap space he is taking. He has 3 picks in 2 seasons and you’d expect more from someone making as much as he does. He’s a good player. We just overpaid him
There are plenty of exit ramps in his contract, when it’s prudent, I feel confident that he’ll get released or traded. But let’s not just make shit up.
if you choose to believe rumors , he wants that now
Sure, what the fuck do we need cornerbacks for anyway?
anybody can do it .
Just Google some shit and watch an episode of Star Trek, maybe catch a protest on Facebook….. gravy
he was a different guy after that . clearly was hampered and gutted it out .
Ikr
Now add $16.93 million to your objection.
Go on. We’ll wait.
Keep waiting, sis
Take your time lady. I’m patient.
You ain’t shit. So because YOU deem his number high, the Skins should do whatever it is YOU think prudent? I’m laughing at you.
There’s no one that watches football that doesn’t deem his cap hit high.
You left off capping a couple of yous there.
Swinging my dick in circles right now, laughing.
TMI
Yeah baby
https://twitter.com/AP/status/971060601517723648
This is why all guns in a house should at least have trigger locks if you can’t afford a gun safe.
https://twitter.com/nfltrade_rumors/status/971062572882518016
Virginia General Assembly passed a resolution recognizing the 1987 Redskins replacement players
They already don’t have a proven #2 CB on the roster (see my column above), and they don’t have a replacement for Josh Norman, who’s been at the very least a solid player and a good locker room guy. He’s not going anywhere right now.
Dc you might be onto something
Designate JNORMAN as a June cut
Recoup 10 million use that to resign Bree and someone else
Why would be want to cut Norman when we’re already short on corners and have about $30M in cap space?
His cap hit is $16.9 million.
That’s a lotta loot for an underperformer.
Some might call it robbery.
I don’t think he’s underperformed. He had a couple bad games last year when he came back from his rib injury.
He’s definitely had an impact in the locker room. On the field though….ehh.
Not afraid to come up and tackle. I’ll give him that much.
He definitely underperformed last year, but I think that was mostly down to his rib injury. But I think he’s also being over payed in general.
For the sake of something to post?
Would it be possible to trade him?
The Utah State Bar Is ‘Investigating’ How It Emailed All the Lawyers a Picture of Boobs
The Utah State Bar is very confused as to how it emailed a picture of some titties to lawyers throughout the state and is “investigating” how the image was included alongside content promoting its 2018 Spring Convention in St. George.
Story…
Boobies…
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I’ve never received an email like that from the state bar, for the record.
This is NOT a reason to move to Utah, guy just accidentally mixed up his Spring Convention and 2018 Wife Draft profiles PowerPoint presentations.
Great advertising
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Free Agent CB Sam Shields Visiting Browns & Rams http://bit.ly/2I4Am8B #Browns #Rams
So apparently teams are now tampering before the legal tampering period starts.
Not tampering because he’s a FA.
From Yahoo News. Only in Florida…
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A father and daughter were arrested Tuesday in Florida after allegedly being caught having sex in their back yard, according to reports. Justin Bunn, 39, and his 19-year-old daughter, Taylor Bunn, were taken into custody after witnesses told Panama City police they spotted them having sexual intercourse in a back yard, the Northwest Florida Daily News reported. Both father and daughter confessed to having consensual sex but claimed it was an isolated incident, police said. The Bunns appeared in court on incest charges Wednesday. The judge ordered them to stay away from each other, according to the Miami Herald.
🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
Only in Florida…
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Hold my beer.
-West Virginia
What do West Virginia girls say during sex?
“Get off me daddy, you’re crushing my cigarettes.”
What do little boys in Austin say during sex?
“Get off me daddy, dicks are for chicks.”
Hold my bath salts – South Beach
I’m stuck between a WTF and a LOL
Cause yea…father daughter. WTF.
Florida. LOL
Sounds about right for Panama City.
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Allen Robinson, Taylor Gabriel and Lamarcus Joyner several free agents #Redskins could be interested in.
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I still think Robinson might end up going the 1 year prove it route.
It’s a new trend. But since he just came off injury…you’d think he’d want some long term security.
Attention all free agents….the #Redskins could be interested.
Except that one guy.
Fuck him.
That guy sucks
We could save $7M by cutting Norman. If we do it after June 1st we’d have $10.5M extra available.
Other than that, there’s very little slack in the Redskins’ payroll as far as improving cap space by cutting players. We’d have to restructure to get significant money if we keep Norman.
Not sure we have the depth to do that move
Well, if we re-sign Breeland…. But yeah, for sure you can’t lose both of them.
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The #Bills are signing RB Chris Ivory to a 2-year deal worth $5.5M base, source said. He gets $3.25M guaranteed in the first year and it can be worth $6M max.
Dumb. Dude has been declining for 4-5 years.
From another Blog:
The Redskins currently have $47.7 million in cap space before the league year starts on March 14th according to overthecap. This does not include the contract for Alex Smith which, as it currently stands, will count for $17 million this season. The Redskins also get $650k back from Fuller’s contract.
With rookie contracts, and possible added money for a Smith signing bonus this year, the Redskins should have around $24-28 million to spend this offseason. They will have many holes to fill due to some of their own free agents leaving, and will likely use some cap space to re-sign a few key players. The Redskins haven’t splashed in FA since Josh Norman, and don’t really have the money to go all in on a top guy if they want to fill a lot of the other holes unless they do some work on their cap with cuts, restructures, or extensions.
Skip throwing money at a FA CB.
If they let Breeland go…Dunbar and Moreau get moved accordingly. Then, sit coach Gray down with tape of the thousand or so corners that are in this year’s draft. Get ten names and bring them in as UDFAs.
Yup
Move Moreau into a much bigger role
Who’s the wr that the Chiefs recently cut?
Not sure if they cut anyone, but Albert Wilson is someone from KC who Smith has played with that might be available.
He might be worth a look
Could have sworn that he was in the news recently
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In addition to Allen Robinson, another name on Redskins WR target list: Paul Richardson. There are others.
6:55 AM – 6 Mar 2018
We already have Crowder.
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Couple of NFL WR thoughts: If Allen Robinson lands with Alex Smith and Washington, believe he regains, at a minimum, top-20 status. Sizable volume. Still young, talented. As for Sammy Watkins, someone will overpay. Please, Chicago, don’t be that shortsighted.
Contract and cap number are two very different numbers, a 5-6mil contract is not a 5-6mil cap hit.
You aren’t listening. Breeland is going to have a $6-7M cap hit in year 1 if it’s a 4 or 5 year deal, and so will Brown if he ends up signing a multi-year deal with us.
Yeah Brown got a 1 year deal for like 2mil off a better year with no injuries and now people think he will get some huge deal it’s laughable at best. Breeland is a good CB he will not get a big contract and if he does it wont be here.
He took a 1-year prove it deal. He proved it. NFL1000 ranked him one slot ahead of Jamie Collins, who recently signed a five-year, $50M contract with Cleveland.
Now, Breeland may not be here (see column), but that’s a different story.
http://78.media.tumblr.com/e8dc51bae7856db332c7677b23122ab2/tumblr_nqbhto3muJ1u7p2vxo1_500.jpg
Okay, if Breeland gets, say, a 5 year, $60M contract, with one year guaranteed and a signing bonus of, say, $15M, that gives him an average annual base salary of $9M. Prorate the signing bonus and you’re already at $12M in year 1 cap hit. Cut that down to $50M over 5 with a $10M bonus, and now you’re at probably $10M year one cap hit. It doesn’t take much. If it’s $40M over 5, give him an $8M signing bonus, and now you’re at about $8M in year 1 cap hit. Point is, you have to get down pretty low on a 5 year deal to get lower than $6M in year 1.
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Ravens Could Be Landing Spot For Colts WR Donte Moncrief http://bit.ly/2Hbk8JJ
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I like Moncrief too
sydney?
Who will throw him the ball?
HUH? The QB
There QB sucks,
I thought you meant here if we sign him….Ravens yeah Flacco is bad now.
I think they move Anderson inside this year.
Murphy Brown, starting linebacker, Washington Redskins……….
Grab DL in 1…RB in 2……..picks 4-7 rounds….depth and special teams guys….sign a FA WR, OG, ILB, and DL….maybe a corner if they got the $$. Don’t get injured like last year….Championship!!!
D Hall on First Take , talking Kirk Cousins
Sumbeech couldn’t hit the broadside of a barn beyond 25 yards…..
No , kind of the opposite . He loves him.
can’t be?? KC is awful….
Turrible
next up is Von Miller , he loves him too
Defensive guys love shitty QBs
ha ha
Sang, wang, diggy diggy dang
Sung, wung, duggy duggy dung
Alex Smiff is da cat’s meow
lmfao
response to Mr. Steve way down below:
I have. Chiefs were my father-in-laws fav team. I’m well aware of that whole team and AS didn’t take them to the promised land with a much better team than KC had. I’m not being cynical, just telling you the facts. We saved money and got an older, little more mobile qb. He won’t have the team tho he’s had so I’m having to be shown even tho I’m not from Missouri.
Smiff is as good as Kurt.
he’s older and cheaper…not better
In my country, “as good as”, doesn’t mean “better than”.
i was expanding on the analysis
Liberally…….er, literally
Ik ik, that was a low blow. Please forgive me.
I don’t usually take offense to anyone. I earn most criticism.
I’ll take a slice of that humble pie…..if you’re offering.
here ya go!
can anyone find stats about “how injured” the skins were last season? it was pretty incredible, at least to us, but how does it compare league-wide for last season and historically?
the farther away from the season we get, the more i think how no team could have overcome ish like that. but is that just me rationalizing?
I thought about writing about that, but it seemed a bit too much in the rear view mirror at this point.
steve,
i think it might inform us about where we stand and what we really need in FA and the draft.
We had a lot of injuries and it was a major problem.
as fans we over-value “our” players and place too much emphasis on other areas at at times. I do seem to recall however some stat suggesting we were at near historic levels of injured players for a season. ?
I actually think it’s the other way around. Redskins fans seem to UNDERvalue their own players.
Really? Like who?
Off the top of my head, ZB, Kerrigan, Rak, TWill, Galette, Breeland….
People were on TI saying that Rak was only worth about $2M a year before he left for TN … making $8M/yr.
Orakpo, Gallette, Bree? see what I mean? These guys aren’t all pros..they’re aight. Kerrigan is ok and I think we neither under or over value him. ZB showed us all how we’ve had shit for ilb’s for decades.
I’m talking about financially. I think fans undervalue them in terms of replacement value. Generally, though, Kerrigan is a helluva lot better than OK.
I ended up really liking Bryce Callahan as a slot guy, but since he’s a RFA, the Bears might keep him.
So….on these corners….does anyone think the Redskins should go after Malcolm Butler?
If he is actually available but I think he resigns with NE.
Zero chance he resigns
That bridge is burned
OK cool well then yes for the right money I would grab him.
I think the right money is going to be a top 5 contract for him.
Yeah maybe well we have cap guys for all that and with the Cousins savings I think we will be OK.
Then HELL no!
Really good player
Depends on the price
I could see the Jets making him a priority
no. with a ferocious line, we can stick with our young guys and be fine imo.
Butler being 28 kind of scares me away from Butler. He has a super bowl ring now and wouldn’t be hungry to give us his all. In my opinion.
That’s fair.
Good write up.
I do what I can…..
The fact that he got benched in the SB concerns me.
That’s the bigger concern to me.
Why not replace one Fuller with another. He’s only 26, however, has had a knee injury that could be an issue.
i ranked him #3 – he’s a possibility.
Bring back Murphy Brown and Bree
Murphy Brown was a terrible TV show. I don’t want that to come back.
Fine with me none of them are big money deals.
You’re looking at about $20M to sign all three of them.
BS nobody is going to give those guys anywhere near those type of deals.
Murphy has hardly played Brown didn’t get a big deal last year wont get one this year and Breeland is a good but not great CB.
Murphy had the suspension and injury issues last year, but he was well above average before that. Even questionable edge guys command pretty good money, so let’s say $5M conservatively.
Breeland is a decent starting outside CB and has been since his rookie year. Still young. Per Spotrac his market value is $6.9M.
ZB isn’t going to get TOP ILB money, but I think it’ll take $6 – $9M to re-sign him after posting back-to-back years leading or nearly leading the league in tackles.
Breeland, $6-7M; Brown wants $10M, so give him a number in the middle, call is $5-6M. That’s already over $10M. Murphy is the wildcard.
Brown wanted 10 last year and what did he get off a better year with no injuries. Those numbers aren’t the cap numbers by the way.
If you think Breeland is going to go into year one of a 4 or 5 year deal with a cap hit lower than $6-7M, then you haven’t spent hours and hours staring at a salary cap spreadsheet.
I don;t think Breeland is going to be here.
I still don’t know why people think Brown will get some huge contract this year, he was a better player in 2016 and he was not injured and yet got a one year small money deal from us. So after being injured this year he is all the sudden going to get a big money deal makes no sense.
The WR’s we will get in FA’s or at least go after hard will be Robinson from Jacksonville.
yup
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Smart. Sounds alot like what a certain writer suggested two weeks ago.
Wouldn’t know. Never read the articles.
[Insert Smiley Face]
Yes already said that.
Brown, Breeland, Murphy, and Galette
None of these guys will get big contracts and we might not even want to resign all of them.
I texted Alex, who is our IT guy, and told him that Disqus is going haywire.
It’s working now
Yes
“fuck! and I just dug through my drawer to find that fucking password!” – Alex
Alex Smith should be able to take this team and put it on his back and do what many of you said KC couldn’t. I’m all about seeing that!
No one thinks Alex is that guy. About the same as Cousins, but with a manageable contract.
many have sang his praises here. I’m waiting excitedly for them to be right
The Alex Smith of recent years has been outstanding, better than Cousins. As Jamual asked here in a recent column, the question is whether we actually get that version of Smith given that this team has a severe lack of offensive playmakers.
He was almost identical to KC (stats) in recent years and KC had a vastly inferior team including no rushing attack and putrid defense. Still, I’m waiting and so excited…
Watch him play.
I have. Chiefs were my father-in-laws fav team. I’m well aware of that whole team and AS didn’t take them to the promised land with a much better team than KC had. I’m not being cynical, just telling you the facts. We saved money and got an older, little more mobile qb. He won’t have the team tho he’s had so I’m having to be shown even tho I’m not from Missouri.
Let’s all migrate back to the Post!