2018 Draft Analysis, Part 5: Interior Defensive Line
March 8, 2018
by Adam Taraschke
Welcome back to another edition of my draft preview for the Hog Sty. This week I look at the interior defensive lineman. Basically, I looked at every defensive line player who didn’t play on the edge or doesn’t project as an edge rusher. Washington is in serious need of some help up front. An interior DL seems to be a no brainer at some point in this draft. There is some serious talent in the first round, but I like this group overall and think help can be found in the later rounds as well.
- Da’ron Payne (Alabama) 6’2 311
- Vita Vea (Washington) 6’4 347
- Maurice Hurst (Michigan) 6’2 282
- Taven Bryan (Florida) 6’4 291
- Nathan Shepard (Fort Hays State) 6’5 315
- Tim Settle (Virginia Tech) 6’3 335
- Harrison Phillips (Stanford) 6’4 307
- Da’shawn Hand (Alabama) 6’4 297
- Rasheem Green (Southern California) 6’5 275
- Trenton Thompson (Georgia) 6’4 295
Day 1 prospect: Vita Vea (Washington) 6’4 347
Strengths: Vea is an absolute powerhouse. He is one of the most naturally powerful players I’ve ever watched. Surprising lateral agility for a player his size. He has the strength to press O-Linemen off his body and disengage with ease. He has a nasty hump move that can be devastating in the slant game. Makes life hell for centers trying to block back on power plays, constantly driving them into the running lane. Plays with a strong base, easily stalemating multiple blockers.
Weaknesses: Although he flashes great potential he tends to disappear throughout a game. Pass rush potential will be based off his technique. He is not a twitchy athlete like Payne; his game is power. His hand placement needs to improve. His pad level was average most of the time. He does not possess a great burst off the line.
Overall: Vea is a fascinating prospect. He flashes dominance on the field, but he played with inconsistent pad level and get off due to his elite strength and balance. He got away with sloppy technique in college due to his overwhelming talent. If he finds a coach who can get him to play with consistent effort and disciplined fundamentals he will be a force in the NFL. His pass rush potential is limited due to his speed, but he offers you an elite run defender day one. He’s a top 20 prospect all day. I would prefer to trade back and select him, but at 13 he would instantly improve the Redskins porous run defense. Tomsula would love to get his hands on Vea. He is a grade “A” badass in the run game that has shown potential to be a threat as a pass rusher. He would be the day one starting NT with potential to get on the field in passing situations. He would be an excellent selection in the 1st round for Washington.
Day 2 prospect: Nathan Shepard (Fort Hays State) 6’5 315
Strengths: Shepard is a big body DT who started his career in Canada before moving to Fort Hays State where he dominated his low level of competition. He plays with a tenacious motor. Powerful, violent hands. He has great drive from his lower body. Great get off for his size. Good athlete with loose hips. Has a decent array of pass rush moves. He is a versatile lineman who can line up as a NT, 1tech, 3tech, or a 4i/5tech. He’s shown the ability to close on the ball in space. I love his attitude on the field, he is mean and wants to inflict pain on the opposing linemen.
Weaknesses: The level of competition is an obvious concern. Scouts will have to figure out if he can play against much greater talent in the NFL. He is a raw athlete at this point. He needs work on his hand placement and footwork. He tries to use his brute strength over technique too much. Tends to play too erraticly. He needs to learn how to diagnose different blocking schemes. He lacks elite length despite his tall frame.
Overall: Shepard is a prospect who flashed in the senior bowl when I watched him. He’s shown the ability to dominate 1 on 1 match ups against guards and centers. His athletic abilities make him a dangerous piece that could be deployed all over the Redskins defense. He has work to do on his technique, but I trust Tomsula to coach him up and max out his disruptive potential. A trade back scenario in the 2nd round would be a good move, although I think his value is in the 3rd. If Washington could somehow add a 3rd round pick in this draft I would look to target Shepard. He would add, potentially, another dangerous pass rusher to the defense who could develop into an overall threat with great technique. He would be a rotational player who could make his name in nickel packages and work his way into a starter.
Day 3 prospect: Deadrin Senat (USF) 6’0 314
Strengths: Powerful run defender with short, stout frame. He constantly gets his hands inside allowing him to control offensive linemen. Plays with a strong base and great balance. Plays with a high-level motor. He gives up minimal yardage in the run game. Anchors against double teams well. Short stocky arms allow him to press lineman off him with ease and find the ball.
Weaknesses: Limited athlete who will be designated as a 1st and 2nd down specialist. Offers very little pass rush ability. Lacks great explosion off the ball. Short frame allows him to get swallowed up by bigger OL. Despite his strength he doesn’t have a good bull rush which really limits him on passing downs.
Overall: Senat is a short, stout, and powerful run defender. He could come in day one and start for Washington at NT. The catch is that he would absolutely need to be subbed out on passing downs. However, a team that struggled to stop the run would gladly accept the help of this high-quality run stuffer. He should be available somewhere between rounds 4-6 depending on how teams view him. Tomsula would max out his potential and help him add to this teams run defense. I like Senat’s value in the 5th round. He offers little to no pass rush, but his help in the run game would be more than welcome in DC.
Favorite prospect: Da’ron Payne (Alabama) 6’2 311
Strengths: Great athlete for the position. Plays with a high-level motor at all times. He has a tenacious, aggressive attitude on the field. Outstanding burst off the line. A disruptive penetrator in the run game, but he can also anchor against double teams. Great awareness and understanding of what the offense is trying to do. Finds the ball quickly.
Weaknesses: He can get lost in the sauce if his initial pass rush move doesn’t hit. Struggles with pad level at times. Hand placement and footwork have room to improve.
Overall: Payne is constantly the first guy off the ball and makes every play hard on opposing offenses. He is a prototype 1tech and would be a match made in heaven with last year’s 1st round pick and former Alabama teammate Jon Allen. He has the power and mentality to be an excellent run defender. Although he did not put up gaudy numbers at Alabama he possesses the traits to excel as a pass rusher at the next level. After blowing up the combine he cemented himself as the best interior defender in this draft. He would be a great pick for the Redskins at 13, but he may be available later in the draft should a trade come to fruition. He would give that defense a dynamic duo on the inside who can do anything asked of them. Adding a run stuffing NT and a pass rushing element to Washington’s defense should be a huge goal this offseason. Payne would check both boxes and instantly make that defense better. He may not constantly put up the numbers you’d expect, but I promise he is a player that makes life easier on everyone on the defense.
Highest Ceiling: Vita Vea
Highest Floor: Da’ron Payne
Best Pass Rusher: Maurice Hurst
Best Run Defender: Vita Vea
Most Versatile: Taven Bryan
Best Technician: Da’ron Payne
Best Room to Improve: Rasheem Green
Biggest Riser: Tim Settle
Biggest Sleeper: Nathan Shepard
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http://www.thehogsty.com/2018/03/09/building-for-2019/
New blog post.
My thoughts on the 2019 Redskins (not a typo)
Seattle is really cleaning house. Guess they know when to call it quits and start rebuilding with youth.
Yeah, it’s a difficult commitment but the way to go. Otherwise your mired in a 5, 10, 15 year rebuild.
They will not be able to build the team they built just before RW3 came on board now that his and a couple others’ deals dominate their cap. They were in a perfect, almost Patriots-like situation before breaking the bank for Wilson.
Those huge deals accelerated the demise of a team that could have become dominant, almost dynastic.
Talib and his $11M 2018 salary to the Rams for a 5th. Interesting.
Yeah, again, that’s a reason this Denver fan I was chatting with said it’s a lock that Cousins is going to Denver because they cleared out Talib’s deal to free up more caishe for KC.
I have no idea where KC ends up and frankly, don’t give a shit. But, if I had to hazard a guess, I could see him with the Jets. All the money in the world and could be the team to take hold of the AFC East for the foreseeable future as the sun sets on the Patriots’ dynasty.
Could be, but by my fuzzy math they have a couple more players to release to get KC under the cap and have the cash for the rookie pool. Doable of course.
After Talib, roughly $34 million of cap. With a rookie pool of $11 million. So…$23 million for FA until or unless they clear some more.
Shoulda given that guy a titty-twister from hell. I can’t stand Denver fans…I love to see them fail.
I was talking to a Denver Broncos fan at this bar last night and dude was already referring to Cousins as their starter and how he will help their defense become even stronger etc. All this, “When Cousins gets here….” and “We’re odds-on Super Bowl favorites…” etc.
He must have been the “Flounder” of the Broncos’ blog for the Denver Post.
Happy Friday!
It is indeed, Happy Happy.
Happah Happah
– Phil
Back at ya, 65!
Electric VW Bus coming soon…
http://newsroom.vw.com/vehicles/future-cars/official-the-vw-bus-is-back-and-its-electric/
Das Kultauto für das Elektro-Zeitalter muss ein Volkswagen sein …… WAS? Scheiße Scheißkerl! – Moschus
I don’t know about a cult but I do think this electric VW bus is cool as s***
Cult = iconic
Always thought just driving one of those gave every cop ‘probable cause’ to pull ya over.
My Gosh, that’s just awful!
Best hippie lettuce carrier evah!
I gotcha brah.
Fucking Germans
why do you say that? I lived in Germany for 2 years and absolutely loved it.
I love fucking Germans, so you should know that I mean.
Monkeygate though
nitrogen dioxide, bro……. that’s some dank shit, WOOT! – Clyde
https://twitter.com/PSchrags/status/971917444628537344
Australia says it called in golf legend to help lobby Trump on tariffs
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Shoulda gone with the porn star.
https://twitter.com/BurgundyBlog/status/971855621816508416
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How does that little arm lift that mug of tea? It’s the size of his head!
You should see him catch touchdowns.
Debate it for a few months, after the answer presents itself, peeps can post it as their opinion…………..but that’s none of my business…..
The vertical on this guy. I think we’ve found our RZ threat.
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Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, he’s a bust, remember? 22nd overall blubblubblub
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Is that Rick?
evidently inclusion rider doesn’t mean take Frances McDormand’s Oscar from her
Mu inclusion rider would stipulate that female cast members be as equally topless in every seen that I am topless. Which would be the whole damn movie.
Trump and Kim have found common ground to meet on
they both love porn stars
Who doesn’t?
Rick’s here
Crickets …. is this WaPo?
our president has forced the North Korean president into a meeting to talk about denuclearization! I think his motto should be changed from make America great again to make the world great again LOL!
And then we end up going to war over the last chicken wing at the table.
Lol you’ve been to my dinner table I can see
Amazing how Rachel Maddow and her show twist the meeting between Trump and Kim jun un.
she is criticizing Trump for being willing to do this because no other sitting president has done it.
You ever hear of Netflix?
Costs a couple bucks, but…it’s a lot damn better than cable news. No talking heads. No panels yelling at each other. No commercials.
Nothing but movies and shows. Oh, documentaries too.
They even got titties.
Someone say titties?
I’m always in favor of talking to hostile leaders. Never understood the (former) Republican attitude that you couldn’t talk to them unless they essentially agreed in advance to concede everything.
Aquib Talib to the Rams…
Damn! Rams hittin’ switches this offseason
Marcus Peters and Aqib Talib. Lots of talent and lots of attitude.
They are going to drop off this year.
I was told today that Vita Vea is not completely recovered from the hamstring injury he suffered during his combine workout when he tore through the 40, and as a result he will not be participating in the Washington pro day this coming Saturday.
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I was afraid of that. Bummer. I guess he’ll do individual workouts for teams that are really interested.
Jordan Reed comes to mind……
Totally. No LB or safety can cover Vea coming out of the backfield.
6-8 games per year
If he’s there in the 3rd…might pan out to be decent value. Oh wait. We don’t have a 3rd. Ahwell.
Not gonna kid you…this shit gets graphic. Like, maybe you don’t want to watch it too soon after a meal, graphic.
I made a stop on the way home. While I waited I was looking for something to watch to pass the time. I ended up fighting back bursting out in a fit of laughter and wiping my eyes on account of laughing as hard as I was.
But again…this gets graphic. So.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYZuCKmDi9c&t
I thought he was going to die. Surprised his esophagus didn’t close up.
Too bad
Impressed how he can hit the “switch” in his throat and vomit at will.
Only the top 51 players count against the cap until the regular season starts.
It still only comes to $25M according to Spotrac.
According to sportrac the skins have 31 mil and that includes rookie pool and Alex Smith deal, now that could be wrong but I’m curious where you guys are getting your numbers.
Just think of what you’d like it to be, then divide by two, presto.
I don’t think that includes rookie pool
Yes it does according to the site.
You trust your site, I’ll trust mine
https://youtu.be/AQPpFIPOO2o
No, that doesn’t include the pool. You’re reading it wrong.
Cap Space (w/Top 51 & Projected Draft Pool): $25 million
Cap Space (w/All): $23 million
Redskins cap money $48,464,384
Alex Smith cap hit near $18,000,000
Rookie pool estimated at $7,235,841
Everett’s cap hit guessing $1,300,000
Leaving us approximately $21,928,543 to sign our own and shop around the FA market
Where are you getting these numbers?
Smith cap hit is 17mil according to several sites.
Trump is meeting Kim Jong Un for a cage match in May. Location TBD
I think Trump would be the crap out of that little weasel. Kim Jon Un is a fat non-athletic little bully. Trump is old, but he’s alot bigger and was an athlete in his day. Trump has the height and reach on him. If I were Trump, I’d keep him at bay with his jab, then at the right moment, take him to the floor and go for a chokehold of some type where Trump’s superior size and strength would come into play.
I heard Dennis Rodman will be managing Kim and working his corner as well.
Hmm
https://twitter.com/nbcsredskins/status/971884573373198337?s=21
Smokescreen?
unless…
We do need a receiver!
that’s to set up the massive trade with Buffalo!
I think Lamar Jackson will be a good pro QB, but….no. Please don’t waste the 1st round pick on a QB we don’t need.
https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/971899316972523520
If what the skins have is about 22 mil, spotrac has an est market value on Robinson of 13.6 mil
Skins have more than 22 mil.
It’s less than 25 mil for practical purposes at this point. We know Smith cap is 17+(signing bonus/4) so I’m guessing 21-22 is left after his contract and draft picks, but obviously without anything else done to other contracts/cuts
but also, obviously, Robinson cap hit this year wouldn’t be 13-14 mil, it’d prob be under 10
The number is going to be somewhere in the mid $20s if the rookie pool is taking into account.
There will be more cap cutting going on
I’ll have exact numbers, or at least as exact as I can make them, probably this weekend when I have time to sit down and update my salary cap chart.
what to you guess A Smith’s signing bonus is?
Honestly, I haven’t yet put pen to paper about it, so I couldn’t give an educated guess right now. I’m going to have to work on it. But I only put confirmed numbers in the chart, so if I don’t really have it, it’ll be blank.
https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/971899012302475265
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Noone earlier answered that: Jan 1-Mar 7 and Mar 9-Dec 31.
Until you look at suicide rates, education rates, upward moving pay rates, …
5 possible landing spots for Allen Robinson. Funny how we’re at the bottom of the list.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000920218/article/allen-robinsons-top-landing-spots-in-free-agency-49ers-top-list
“You can never rule out the Redskins when it comes to a free-agent bidding war. No strangers to diving into the open market with wallets open, Washington could set its sight on Robinson.”
This year it’s our coin purses wide open.
According to this we have like the 7th highest cap space available… or something like that
Yeah I saw that. Apparently we have $48,464,384 in cap space.
…until Alex Smiff hit’s the books
Spotrac has us at a guesstimate of about 25 mil in cap space, est a 17 mil cap hit for A Smith and an est for the draft pool. My guess is that that is closer to 21 to 22 mil with Smith’s signing bonus.
https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/971892091910606849
No way, no how, never on Wilkerson. That guy’s a head case and a locker room cancer.
…and the Redskins just signed him
Well, in that case, he was completely misunderstood and mis-used in NY!
Where I’m at. Let Tomsula put foot to ass.
If that happens:
Me, on the phone with Redskins PR: “Can we interview Wilkerson? We love him and would love to talk to him.”
False news moved through Twitter “farther, faster, deeper and more broadly” than the truth, said Sinan Aral, a professor of information technology at MIT who studies social media networks.
In a statistical model that kept variables like Twitter followers and account age equal, falsehoods were 70 percent more likely to be retweeted than the truth. The study authors hypothesized that falsehoods contain more novelty than truth. To that end, they measured the “information uniqueness” of rumors and discovered that false rumors were more likely to contain new, but wrong, information.
“It’s easier to be novel when you’re unconstrained by reality,” Aral said. Similarly, the researchers identified common themes in the phrasing of replies to false rumors — users more frequently expressed words associated with disgust and surprise when they commented on untruths.
Millennials and truth have a tenuous relationship at best
Derrick Henry’s fantasy stock just went through the roof.
So according to some random Internet article the top selling music acts in terms of certified albums sales are
1, The Beatles
2. Garth Brooks
3. Elvis Presley
4. Led Zeppelin
5. The Eagles
Eagles — 101 million units.
Led Zeppelin — 111.5 million units.
Elvis Presley — 136 million units.
Garth Brooks — 148 million units.
The Beatles — 178 million units.
50 Best Selling Acts
That’s funny, it’s like a backwards pyramid set, work down, then back up.
Any interest in DeMarco Murray as a FA?
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000920283/article/titans-to-release-rb-demarco-murray
No, no, no.
Let me be clear: NO!
No idea what he has left. He was good once though. If he’s cheap?…..
31-year-old (next year) RB with a million city miles? Nope.
30-yr old. He doesn’t turn 31 until next Feb. While he had a down year this year (659 yds), he did rush for over 1200 yds in 2016.
Not saying I want him either. Just playing devil’s advocate. If he came cheaply (vet min?) it might be worthwhile to have a vet backup?
You should flogged for even asking the question.
“He doesn’t turn 31 until next Feb.”
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Hence the parenthetical, “(next year).”
dc,
well, why would you give the age he will be 2 seasons from now?! as far as i’m concerned, in this context, “next year” means next season.
His down year was better than anyone on our team.
Heck no – way too old. I redlined him off of my free agent RB column list immediately.
newp
Can he play safety?
sounds like the room has spoken: let the perfect be the enemy of the good
Not much talk bout Kirk these days…kinda nice.
Monday
He’ll be a Vike and take the team less far than Keenum.
You trying to jinx us?
Wait until he throws a TD pass
or throos 4 picks and then goes to the bench and cries
– Flounder
Hope’ll be strutting around here like a banty rooster.
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It’ll be a backbreaking pick six….
‘soul-crushing’ ^
Burgundy Blog Verified account @BurgundyBlog 19m19 minutes ago
My guy asked Tomsula about DL draft prospects, specifically Payne and Vea. JT barely said two words about Payne. He lit up over Vea. “That’s a big nasty f***in’ cat!”
smoke screen!
He’s the guy you say stuff to to get him excited then release him out in the public.
Burgundy Blog @BurgundyBlog
Tomsula inferred that Sheldon Richardson is a #Redskins target. My guy asked about him specifically. “Ohhhh, we’re on that!”
That would be tampering…. I hope he didn’t say that…..
A modern day warrior
Mean, mean stride
Today’s Tomsula
Mean, mean pride
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NSFW
Everyone else, turn your volume down before playing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWS2tHGmVmw
Everyone I hate in the same room. That’s convenient
Good grief. All of them need to stop. What a bunch of idiots. But while we’re at it, I’d recommend that we hire some construction experts, get them to dig up the entire city of Berkeley and transport it to Elon Musk’s place and ask him to launch the city en masse into space. That’d be the best thing.
And now its snowing here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBiavXZGvAg
I think I totally nailed this one.
13: R1P13 DL VITA VEA WASHINGTON
51: R2P19 LB ROQUAN SMITH GEORGIA
89: R3P25 RB SAQUON BARKLEY PENN STATE
113: R4P13 OG QUENTON NELSON NOTRE DAME
125: R4P25 S DERWIN JAMES FLORIDA STATE
149: R5P12 DE BRADLEY CHUBB N.C. STATE
188: R6P14 QB SAM DARNOLD USC
231: R7P13 DL DA’RON PAYNE ALABAMA
241: R7P23 CB DENZEL WARD OHIO STATE
Meh, no Poona.
O wait, I see you signed him as an UDFA. Good draft.
liar
4 Pinocchio’s.
Geesh, ye of little faith! Also signed Calvin Ridly as UDFA.
‘zackly
Admit it. You typed that on the side and copy/pasted.
Perish the thought! That would be a CLEAR violation of the Mock Drafters Code of Ethics!
Hey, you even got our third rounder back!
Wrong QB….
Why didn’t you trade back in the first?
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Is that your mill?
Nah
But I do have a Dremel
^Also once stayed at a Holiday Inn Express.
Gettin me some glory hole.
– Jerruh
Surprisingly Sports Illustrated has a story about how mike Bennett was a PITA to the coaching staff
So 32 years old, EXPENSIVE and folks up here want to know why we’re not doing anything
SMH
That, plus Michael Bennett is a lying racebaiter who hates the country that’s made him rich.
“I would like to challenge every American that is watching this show to treat people better,” said Bennett, speaking at a CNN town hall moderated by Anderson Cooper. “That really is what it’s about. It’s about treating people like human beings. That’s the first step.”
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I guess not everyone got the message….
Go watch the video about the incident in Vegas. Dramatically different than what Bennett said; Bennett absolutely lied for effect. Plus, I’ll never forgive him for disrespecting the flag.
But you forgive the NFL for disrespecting the flag literally every week….
The NFL isn’t disrespecting the flag every week at all. They aren’t violating any flag protocol. I’ve recently spoken to the Air Force’s functional experts at Lackland about this specific issue in response to my concerns over that argument.
4 U.S. Code § 8 – Respect for flag
US Code
No disrespect should be shown to the flag of the United States of America; the flag should not be dipped to any person or thing. Regimental colors, State flags, and organization or institutional flags are to be dipped as a mark of honor.
(a) The flag should never be displayed with the union down, except as a signal of dire distress in instances of extreme danger to life or property.
(b) The flag should never touch anything beneath it, such as the ground, the floor, water, or merchandise.
(c) The flag should never be carried flat or horizontally, but always aloft and free.
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Once again: according to the AF’s functional experts, who I know personally and worked with on a daily basis at one point, specifically told me that the flag thing before football games is perfectly fine; it’s not being carried – it’s part of a ceremony that is clearly honoring the flag. The military sanctions those ceremonies by participating in them. DoD knows what its doing, which is why they allow military personnel to participate in them via honor guard and local troops who help hold the flag.
You are incorrect in this matter, and I’d be the first one to call out a breach of flag protocol, which is why I went through the effort of contacting them again, and I told them that I might use what they say on my show at some point, despite the fact that I haven’t worked with them for a couple of years now.
It’s not even debatable, notwithstanding what your guy may thing. The US Code section is absolutely clear that the flag should not be displayed horizontally.
What you’re saying, really, is that the NFL’s INTENT is to honor the flag and not to dishonor it, which I agree with. However, Bennett and the other players also say that their INTENT is not to dishonor the flag. You choose not to accept their explanation, for whatever reason.
Sorry, but I trust the professionals whose sole job is to perform ceremonies with the flag for the USAF around the world and teach others how to perform ceremonies involving the flag far more than I trust you on this, who has an agenda, who doesn’t do it for a living, and is just trying to apply a section of the USC to the situation.
When the flag is displayed horizontally, it’s upside down for half of the field.
Fair enough. And I’ll continue to trust the plain language of statute.
In reality, though, I really don’t give a damn about the code. It is all about intent. The protesters clearly and repeatedly say that they do not intend to disrespect the flag, or of course the military, but you don’t give a damn about their intent.
I trust the people who design and perform ceremonies for a living.
As to Bennett, et al, it doesn’t really matter what they intend, to me. What they are doing is clearly disrespectful and is a slap in the face to those of us who’ve defended this country. They are why I boycotted half the season this year (but for the Redskins games) and converted to Papa John’s-only for pizza.
He knows the same plays Cousins does.
COUSINS TO MINNY!
He had 17 yards on a kick return
Folks lost their mind when we cut him
DeShazor Everett signed for 2 years
Maybe I am late on that
Couple days
ha, oh well, glad to have DE back
Yesterday’s post announced that signing.
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HA! Trump just said to the guy… “Your father is looking down right now and very proud…”
The guy said… “He’s still alive so…”
I’m listening as well. It’s painful listening to POTUS.
He is not a well polished speaker
Why does he use giant markers to sign things?
Why not just use crayons? You know he wants to…
His signature looks like a seismic shock or a really bad EKG.
He’s probably having a small stroke every time he signs something
You’ll know it’s really bad if he flatlines on one of those signatures.
…or good depending on your perspective
Looks to me like someone telling a YUGE lie on a polygraph test.
You’d certainly know what that looks like through personal experience
Yes, I have administered MANY polygraph tests judging Trump’s lack of veracity.
Good one
Trump’s signature…
https://www.bstnstore.com/files/image/id/30297/fixed/1/w/300/h/200/n/30297.jpg
Stussy
https://qzprod.files.wordpress.com/2017/01/trump-signature-16x-9_colorcorrected.jpeg?quality=80&strip=all&w=3333
Although the guy spoke of his father like he was dead and said how he would be happy that his name is being carried on, so……
My buddy Frederick Douglas is going to get a yuge laugh out of this!
-Donald
up to 57 mocks
Vita Vea, DT, Washington 13
Derwin James, S, Florida State 12
Da’Ron Payne, DT, Alabama 8
Roquan Smith, ILB, Georgia 5
Denzel Ward, CB, Ohio State 4
Calvin Ridley, WR, Alabama 4
Marcus Davenport, DE, Texas-San Antonio 2
Josh Jackson, CB, Iowa 2
Tremaine Edmunds, LB, Virginia Tech 1
Quenton Nelson, G, Notre Dame 1
Minkah Fitzpatrick, S, Alabama 1
Mike Hughes, CB, Central Florida 1
Maurice Hurst, DL, Michigan 1
Josh Allen, QB, Wyoming 1
James Washington, WR, Oklahoma State 1
Derwin making a late push.
Get those bots working, comrade.
Yes, several sites have changed from Payne to Derwin
I’d be okay with him too.
1./1a.Payne/Vea – Slight lean to Payne
2.James
3. Smith
4. Ridley
United Steelworkers Union guy stumping for Trump on TV right now…
Of course he is! Tariffs would certainly help the union.
Damn Republicans
Well, then also raises overall cost of construction, vehicles, etc. Then other countries start putting more tariffs on our goods, etc.
Trump calling for “mirror taxes”
There’s a joke in there somewhere.
He’s gonna tax the folks with hair to pay for the hair he is missing…
so you’re safe
https://twitter.com/john_keim/status/971845918763954177
Good signing
He’s steady
Improve the pass rush and everything else will fall in line
The Falcon is on the Tower
https://biodiversity.utexas.edu/resources/falcon-cam
Fiancé, GF at the time, sent flowers to my office on April fools day saying it was a pleasure working with me this last year…signed MIKE!
She got me
Lotta re signing and extensions going on today… will the Skins get in on the action?
Who got extended
Just checked pft
Not many big names
Marquise Goodwin
https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/971842365248954368
Surprised that they let DPoe walk
I’m just a Poe boy nobody loves me…
He’s just a Poe boy from a Poe family!
poe bastatd
Long ago…cut the cheese in my small office and closed the door. I hurried to the IT guy’s office across the hall and told him I thought my computer smelled like it was overheating. He hurried back to my office, opened the door and started to smell the air…took him a few seconds to realize he was inhaling my nasty fart.
He was a cool dude and was not too pissed.
Huevos rancheros and beer makes for a big nasty.
Best prank I ever pulled… had just got my learners permit. Found a smashed up Porsche in a junk yard that was the same color as my dads while I was looking for a part to replace on My 84 Ford Ranger. Moved his car down the street to a friends house and paid the junkyard to tow that smashed up piece of shit to the driveway…
Best prank?
I shot Marvin in the face.
-Vincent Vega
President Trump has noticed that video games have violent content
FINISH HIM!
Baron prefers Mario kart.
That Sopranos prequel, if it’s got a young Paulie Walnuts just making his bones…it’s already a must see.
Had a ton or two of gravel delivered on my neighbor’s front yard. Can’t believe the company didn’t ask for soeone to sign or even where to put the gravel. But my buddy and I ordered it for our neighbor (didn’t pay) and watched them dumpt if off and then go to the door and demand payment. Can’t believe that actually happenned. We were scared we were actually going to get busted on that one.
Also, had three pizzas simultaeously delivered to the same neighbor.
Once attempted to have have a load of firewood delivered to his house; they were smart enough, though, to actually knock on the door first.
This was of course back in the late eighties, before you could actually track this stuff.
lived in a small town for a while
they added a second telephone exchange and a new pizza place opened up and was very popular
problem was I had old exchange number 256-1212 and they new exchange number 929-1212
nobody noticed that they just dialed 256-1212
I took a lot of pizza orders that never got delivered
best prank I pulled on that was 2nd pizza was free if you came in
owner finally figured out what was going on and got same phone number for both exchanges
Saw the pic of the heavy cheerleader Buck posted earlier…I noticed she has six tits.
That’s nothing. My cat has 8
That’s udderrly ridiculous.
Peyton Manning dumped his stake in Denver Papa John’s two days before the company split with NFL
Insider trading?
No.
– Martha
Just coincidental timing
just a coincidental thing
– carl icahn
Hey, that’s my line…
Says the guy that’s furiously buying up Manitowoc stock……
Apparently a GM key made in the late 60’s/early 70’s was a match to something like 1 out of every hundred.
Well, the key to my old high school car matched the lock to a football teammate’s car. We never messed with his car like driving it or anything, but we did eat our lunch in it almost every day by unlocking the car and leaving all of our trash. Of course we locked the car upon exiting and heading back to class.
I don’t think we ever told him it was us.
I’d heard it was way less than 1/100, closer to 1/25.
Almost forgot. We filled his car with some local campaign signs one night and locked the car back up. He got in big trouble for that one. Bahhhh-hahahahaa.
We were the sophisticated vandals, lol.
My trunk key to my ’69 Z work in the ignition of a buddies Kawa 350. F’n weird, that one was. Not even sure why I tried it the first time but beer was no doubt involved.
2 best it pranks I have played:
Changed a guys autocorrect dictionary to ebonics: is/am to be, I to his name. His emails were fun to read.
Took a screenshot of a guys desktop, set the screenshot as his desktop background, then hid all his icons. Never seen someone so frustrated. He replaced his mouse twice before he figured it out.
Nailed a guys lunch box to the table once . It was quite funny when he tried to pick it up.
Put some shrimp underneath the seat of a guys work truck at work in the middle of the summer .
welded his locker door shut where his tools and clothes were kept . JB weld is all . Still funny watching him try and open it.
Guy was working on his Harley frame at the shop. Waited till he left, put it on a lift, turned the lift on and jumped on it. Got to the top then with a chain and a u-bolt, I suspended his bike frame from a steel beam. Hopped down and headed out.
I came in early the next morning, hid out and waited for him to get in. It took him zero seconds to spot that his frame wasn’t where he left it and he instantly started freaking out. Looking around, yelling about it, saying he was going to fuck up whoever stole his frame…I’m out of sight laughing my ass off when his buddy further back put two and two together. I hadn’t put that lift I used down…they looked up and pointed at that frame. Dude started losing his mind. lol.
That’s when I enter the scene, acting like what’s all the fuss about. They start telling me how someone fucked with the guys bike frame and I’m just like ‘damn, what the fuck. That’s messed up.’ Dudes all hopping mad about it while he’s letting the lift down so he can go up and get his frame. I walk out of there and once I was far enough away I said to him, ‘That’s a 5/16th socket you’re gonna need for that u-bolt up there’
Took’em a couple seconds…but he figured it.
Ran my ass on out of the shop laughing.
Lemmie…we had beers about it over lunch. But at quitting time, while I was busy doing some shit, they blocked the door to the office I was in and before I knew what was going on, both of them had stuck fire extinguishers in windows on opposite of the room and filled that office up with powder and foam. That shit was everywhere and on everything. Huge mess. HUGE. But we were laughing about it. Good fun.
Right up till the moment when at the worst possible time, the shop owner came around the corner forgetting something…in his office. Yea man, the office those dudes had just emptied two fire extinguishers into.
Damn that shit was funny.
……and then y’all had to clean up the powder?
They did. I helped some…cleaned up my desk.
Ha!
Tied a catfish to the top of a guy’s catalytic converter.
ha ha ha .
Jacked up the rear of a car, bled the air out of the tires and lowered it just enough so that the tires were just barely touching the pavement so that there was no spotting that they were flat.
Stood by and watched dude start his car, put it in gear and spin his wheels. But goes nowhere. He gets out, sees me laughing, said some stuff my way. Looks under the car, see the jack and let the rear of the car down. Looks up and says some more stuff when he realized the rear tires were flat.
He made his way to the shop, looking for the air tank. But whoops…it was padlocked to a lift. He gets the key, charges the tank, lugs it all the way back to his car to put air in his tires. And then I shouted ‘Oh hey, your valve stems…you might want to check the urinal cake in the bathroom’ before I hopped in my car and drove out.
Clearly, you did not like this person…..
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Breaking: #WR Marquise Goodwin and the 49ers have agreed to a 3yr extension worth $20.3M & 10M guaranteed, per source.
FA WR gonna be expensive. Cost of every position is going up.
If it said…”ARob to Washington a done deal” Mara would have them take a draft pick away.
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Jonathan Stewart visiting the Seahawks. Andrew Norwell to the Giants a “done deal.” Thoughts – http://walterfootball.com/nflrumors
Tampering?
Yeah I mean WTF
Giants gonna pay a OG LT money. The line will still suck.
Norwell I’m meh on
He’s not gonna blow anybody away
Lemon party?
lol
though i just threw up in my mouth
afternoon crew is here is now
time for repeating the stories from this morning
lol
Chris Baker was released by the Tampa Bay Bucs
The most polite version of Noone’d ever?
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Dolphins WR Jarvis Landry Officially Signs Franchise Tender http://bit.ly/2FlSJbf
Derrius Guice says a team asked him if he liked men and if his mother was a prostitute , Reportedly
Pukes?
They don’t say .
Reporter should have called bullshit, lol
It’s gonna end up being a bigger story . The outrage is heating up
I’m on the verge of Cringe, myself, just in case anyone cares….
TRIGGERED!!!!!!!!!
yeah , I don’t get it . You are just putting your organization out there for a ton of negative attention if not worse . Just a matter of time before it’s revealed who the team was
one tweet and the entire world will know .
Intern misheard GM when copying questions, “make sure you ask him if he considers himself a JAG.”
Did they ask of his father smelled of elderberries?
didn’t someone say it was atlanta earlier?
Maybe
Did someone correct that someone by saying that Atlanta did that in a previous year? I haven’t put much effort into it, tbh
These teams need to understand that it’s not just bad form to ask questions like that; the sexual orientation question is illegal.
I’m working on it. – Jeffrey
Wonder if Buck’s okay……….
https://thumbs.gfycat.com/UnfinishedHotBubblefish-size_restricted.gif
pretty close
Chris Cooley thinks we should trade for Richard Sherman
SURE!
-T Will
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wl4ViIwy7KA
Never gets old…
Don’t tell someone to do something and expect them not to do something.
It sounds like he says, at the end, “Hey, come see us….. come see my nuts.”
Come see about us
not at all trent’s best moment, imo. looks like a sore loser. afterwards, sherman puts his hands up to make it clear he’s not retaliating? why…? cause his team advanced in the playoffs and he’s not getting suspended.
Lol – Dirty Birds
I love Trent for busting that bitch in his mug and besides, Sherman did tell him to do it.
yeah… trent outweighs him by 100 lbs and has a helmet on….. tough guy. (i mean, trent IS a tough guy, but not based on that slap of sherman.)
(Kermit meme)
I love how you think TW couldn’t have KO’d Sherman if he really wanted to. He just bitch slapped him. Open handed. And who doesn’t he outweigh by 100lbs anyway? TW did what every other NFL player wanted to do to Sherman.
“you think TW couldn’t have KO’d Sherman”
——————-
jeez, dude. that is not at all what i’m saying. read. absorb.
I agree. Low brow moment.
Trade what?
maybe an OLB + Cravens?
Thanks vinny
New TI thread an hour ago.
2 comments.
Flatline……
they got another new guy too Kareem Copeland
They killed it. They ignored it. A better option arose. And, poof, the followers are gone. WaPo’s choice.
We are excited to announce that Kareem Copeland will be joining the Sports department next month to cover the Washington Redskins alongside Liz Clarke and Kimberley Martin. Kareem is an experienced reporter who has spent the past five years with the Associated Press, first in Tallahassee and currently in Salt Lake City. While in the AP Tallahassee bureau, Kareem covered Florida State athletics, a job that took him to the 2014 national college football championship game and to courtrooms during the Jameis Winston legal investigation. He also pitched in on coverage of the Florida state legislature. In Salt Lake, Kareem covers the Utah Jazz, the University of Utah, BYU and Olympic sports. He was with the AP contingent in Rio De Janeiro in 2016 and covered the Olympic men’s basketball tournament, including the United States’ gold-medal winning game.
Kareem has worked in Indianapolis for nfl.com and covered the Packers from 2010 to 2013 for the Green Bay Press-Gazette, an assignment that included the Packers’ Super Bowl run in 2011. Kareem has also worked for two Mississippi papers, the Clarion-Ledger and the Hattiesburg American.
Kareem, a Detroit native, is a graduate of the University of Michigan and is active in the National Association of Black Journalists. He has a warm and engaging personality that makes him a force in locker rooms and a hard-working, collegial style that has earned him the respect of his peers.
Kareem’s first day will be Feb. 26.
Moe?
no, not Moe
I know who Moe is
It was really more of a joke. I believe him to be who he said he was.
But you let ’em off the hook?
Catch and release?
Um… who cares?
my sentiments exactly
The irony is, all of the posters that relentlessly complained about our “off topic” discussions…… nowhere to be found.
Buck, bet you can’t find a leg-kick picture of SCOW’s wife dressed as a Redskins cheerleader.
Buck googled Lemon Party. Right now, I am feeling very sorry for his eyes and mental health.
Lol
A Prequel to The Sopranos is in the works…
http://www.indiewire.com/2018/03/the-sopranos-prequel-film-many-saints-of-newark-david-chase-1201937207/
Because they killed off everyone so you couldn’t really do a next generation type thing.
the Sopranos is a show about how the old way doesn’t fit in the modern world, you couldn’t do a next gen type thing because it would be boring
they’re still alive and well…just modified. cement percentage is still paid…
Capo Meadow, why not?
https://twitter.com/HogsHaven/status/971810525360386048
This drafts Allen
if Smith is there at 13 I think you have to take him
he “fixes” the middle of any defense
Wasn’t Von Miller considered a medical risk when he was drafted?
Same thing happened to Jonathan Allen…
And my favorite Jet.
– D_C
if it is a choice between Smith and Edmunds, I dunno. Smith has sort of the same tweener prob that Cravens had unless you’re going peso, nickel, rover, style 4 DBs with a hybrid DB/LB all the time
my thoughts too…smith is lite
Depends on what, if anything, the red flag is.
He’s not as good as Tremaine, yuge red flag.
Two worst IT things I did on purpose was
2. We programmed a screen for annoying QA person who used to do really strange things in testing mainframe apps to get things to fail. So we made a screen to capture strange keystroke combinations and that would say that “deletion of all mainframe files had begun” and would ring the terminal bell (like a ding on a typewriter). We LOAO as you hear NO! ding NO! ding…
1. Put on x-rated gif on the PC of the former Marine CIO we had whose favorite saying was “If they think was are going to do that they can just blow me” of, when it booted up in the morning he got a head gif
nowadays you get fired for those kind of stunts
I reset a colleague’s browser to Big B**ck C***s . com and someone giving a training session the next day used his desktop so she could do a PowerPoint presentation, boom, there it was for 100 people to see.
No one ever found out it was me, thank God. I thought he would be the only one to see that.
I set a co-worker’s screensaver to one of a “Lemon Party” and password protected it. They got up from their computer and while they were up, I set it. “What the….” “Hey, how do you get rid of this?” “What the….”
I told him he should call IT. IT laughed their asses off.
A week later, I did it again…. “Why the fudge does this keep fudging happening?”
I can guess what a Lemon Party is but I’m not sure I want to…
Do not google unless you are ready for some highly offensive material.
I don’t often get offended… but I’m also smart enough not to google half the shit people say around here.
don’t do it
Not a problem
G Damn , Sick
People have zero detectable sense of humor anymore
“Have a nice day” is racist and holding the door for a woman is a microaggression.
Buck’s wife is intimately aware of microagression.
I’m not . Don’t know what it is . I’ll have to ask her
Not in Texas.
Only to delusional, self-righteous, addle-brained elitists.
Etrod Josh RosenSquinns • 11 minutes ago
Brunell might not be a bad comparison
________________
Wait… to who? If you say Alex Smith it’s clear you have never watched either of them play
They should sell an Echo version (indestructible) where Alexa joins in on your side in arguments with your wife.
“Hey Alexa, any time my wife asks you to purchase something tell her to ask me first.”
#happywomansday
Alexa , should my wife orally pleasure me more than twice a month ?
“Yes, but you may want to get here a new pair of tweezers for Valentines Day.”
zing . Paybacks .
“sure thing, Alex, you’re the BOSS” – Alexa
^*Alexa laughs maniacally*
Who’s right Alexa?
You are Dave, opening pod bay doors now
@ArenaFan
We’ve learned the @WashingtonValor and @BMOREBRIGADE won’t be forming dance teams for the 2018 season. Will be unveiling new in game entertainment.
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Frankly I’m fine with this, the cheerleaders for a minor league football team looked like you’ed expect them too. And the best entertainment that they did between quarters was the stuff involving fans in competition.
Virgin sacrifices!
http://orig06.deviantart.net/e1e2/f/2013/004/4/5/cheerleader_fat_by_odysseus66-d5qf1m8.jpg
My gosh! – Walt
Hey baby, wuz up!? – Smokey
Don’t evah…..evah-evah-evah-evah……..come by here.
I’d hollar
As long as nobody found out about it …..Im Ok with it .
LMAO!!!!
A moped
“Lots of fun to ride…until your buddies see you with one.”
Ooohhh dat’s NIIIIIICE!
– The Greaseman
It saddens me that the current generations of kids don’t have anyone like the Greaseman to listen to.
Bubba the Love Sponge
Foul beast, love that guy! – Hulk Hogan
Bubba’s an idiot
he couldn’t carry Howard Stern or the Greaseman’s jock
This generation is a generation of idiots… he fits perfect
AMF!
he was aight, after Howard left
wtf..i just got back from lunch…
There’s nothing quite as fun as watching some frat bro who thinks he’s hot shit try and kick a 5 yard field goal and miss it.
Or punt for negative 1 yard.
– JT
Ravin Caldwell, upon hearing the ’87 replacements would be receiving rings: ‘They should get one just for beating Dallas.’
He was the dude who made the team as a LB on special teams after losing his helmet and still making a tackle wasn’t he?
Yup.
After people report being weirded out by Alexa’s unprompted laughing, Amazon says a fix on its Echo devices is in the works.
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Never let it be said that software developers do not have a sick sense of humor
Alexa, do you share data with the NSA?
Maniacal laughter
“Mike has a 3½-inch floppy in his pants”
He was in the pool.
– Costanza
Shrinkage!
“or so he wishes”
Quentin Nelson highlights are sick . He’s mauling people like it’s routine .
He’s a bad mofo.
– B.A. Barrachus
Nelson and Hernandez both are gonna be really good guards.
Best player in the draft
Very well may be.
I thought guards weren’t supposed to be drafted in the first round.
Wasted picks.
– D_C
not in top 5
FYI we drafted Charley Taylor as a halfback and moved to WR in like year 2 of his career to pair him with Bobby Mitchell
That’s because we are a racist franchise.
– Wise
I don’t think Redskins fans understand what is happening…with Alex Smith (and if he plays well), this is the FIRST time we will have “peace” in the QB since Brunell. Peace, meaning no controversy…no drama.
B I N G O !
– Sherm
FIRST time we will have “peace” in the QB since Brunel
__________________
Yep, peace with Brunell took us to the promised land!
Oh, wait….
Brunell might not be a bad comparison
And, that ain’t a good thing….
Lots check downs coming. I’m ok with Smith though as long as we get him some help
so 500-1000 people started lining up at 4:30am for $35 bottles of Barrel Aged Imperial German Chocolate Cupcake Porter at a microbrewery next to a residential neighborhood in Tampa who has a couple hundred bottles to sell at a special event starting at 9am
by 7:30 the neighborhood was angry because of all the noise being caused and the Uber Eats drivers continually dropping off food to the line standers choking up traffic in the neighborhood
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this is one case where unloading an assault rifle on a crowd in OK
I could not resist a few years back when people would wait in ungodly lines in frigid temperatures to get some crappy red velvet cupcake at Georgetown Cupcakes and yelled out the window as I coasted by, “Get a fucking life!”
OMG my wife dragged me up there once for those things. Between the wait and the price I was expecting to have an orgasm with each bite.
I did not.
Would have been funny if you pretended to, though….
Icing for hers.
Take a bite, moan and shake uncontrollably, take another bite, repeat.
I don’t get the red velvet craze that was going on, it’s chocolate cake but not as good.
Not a fan of red velvet either. Coco cake. Looks pretty.
Red food coloring
Exactly, they don’t even do it the original way, using beats.
Or beets
Right, but, I mean, we could also grind up some beats headphones and kill the hipsters.
Beets are very good for you . Loaded with good stuff .
By Dre
ISWYDT
I mean, that sounds like it would be a good beer, coconut and chocolate notes are great in your dark beers. But the whole waiting in line for a special beer thing’s not something I’d do. Everyone keeps telling me I have to go for Heady Topper in VT, but I’m just not that into “scene” beers
Definitely worth the wait. ‘Sip Of Sunshine’ worth it too.
I’m just not that into IPA’s.
Gotcha. Love ’em myself, especially those two.
In the end, we got Champ, Lavar and Samuels thanks to Carolina.
We traded Carolina’s pick in 99 to New Orleans and used the capital from that to move back up to 7 to select Champ (who we would have picked at 5 anyway) while also getting the saints #1 pick in 2000.
NOs pick in 2000 ended up being #2 over all, where we got Lavar, then used Carolina’s 12th and or 24th to move up and grab Samuels.
And Charley Casserly got fired for his efforts.
Every once in a while a team needs to try making a game changing gambit like this. It may not have worked out great for us but there are way more positive ripples from that move than negative.
Right!!! – still digging out from the rg trade
Stay the course
Draft DL and OL
Good summary.
This is a pivotal draft. Most of us were pointing this the 2018 draft as one in which the team could really take a big step forward in terms of competing perennially for the playoffs and for a division title. We are going to be stable at the QB position and in my humble opinion, better. The team has actually been drafting pretty good players over the last few seasons and if we can improve the talent on the defensive side of the ball but mainly add talented players who will contribute, we should be off to the races.
My areas of need based on nothing but my 2 eyes are the o-line and our defensive front 7.
I’ve been digging into the skins long term needs for a blog post I’m working on. Down the road there’s some other big holes we probably need to look to fill back of the draft as well.
No doubt. Holes more holes than a Bushwood Country Club full of gophers. But we can’t stop anyone for shit and we can’t score from the fucking 1 yard line to save our lives.
I just want the best players we have a shot at.
For sure. My goal in the top of the draft this year is simple “impact player”, because we lack that on both sides of the ball.
More holes than Stormy Daniels cloned
Very well said. But also keep an eye towards our division opponents. Our defensive line should be addressed first imo. Guard hopefully we get thru fa
This is Jay and Bruce’s fifth draft. Time to shit or get off the pot and field a playoff caliber team. Yes, five years into a rebuild….
I don’t recall the Redskins ever drafting a DL in the first round prior to last year.
Read my column I cited below.
Can you just summarize. Reading is hard
summarizing is harder
Summary value is 5
4, no mention of HPhillips.
I really can’t, no, other than to say that the Redskins have drafted very few DL, a ton of DBs, and literally none of the drafted WRs have panned out with the exception of Doctson (too early to tell).
And that Monk guy.
CT-42. But the list of WR misses is a mile long, and those two were long ago.
He was prior to 1992, which is where I cut it off.
Oops, my bad. Carry on.
Lazy….
Lol just kidfing
Sorry, can you truncate that a little further please?
No DL, DB
Nice breakdown. Cheers.
2000: Skins traded 1/12 and 1/24 to San Fran to move up to 1/3 and take Samuels. 1/2 was used on Arrington.
Decent trade for both teams IMO.
Well I just looked and I don’t even recognize the name of who SF took at 24. So I think we won out there.
And they traded down from 1/12 and got Julian Peterson, a darn good LB.
Good point.
So we got Chris Samuels
They got; Julian Peterson, Ahmed Plummer, Jason Webster
I’d say that is kinda even.
Agreed. Plummer was derailed by injuries after ~3 years.
Yes, neither he nor Webster worked out for SF, but still both sides came away with a great player.
Looking back at who was drafted that year, 2000 was a fairly good draft.
If you want to know about Redskins historical draft tendencies, this is my column from a year ago: http://www.thehogsty.com/2017/04/18/lets-talk-redskins-draft-tendencies/
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Allen was the first top tier defensive lineman we’ve drafted since Sean Gilbert. We’ve got the best D-line coach in the business, so I think we can put Scamp on the D-line and he’d get a sack or two.
Rudy?
callahan hasn’t turned jags into hall of famers…doesn’t always work Rick. Have to have talent
Scamp has mad squabbles
We didn’t draft Gilbert
he came from Carolina didn’t he ?
Went to Carolina after the skins. It’s how we got Lavar…I think he was with the rams before the skins
Rams to Skins
Skins to Panthers.
I don’t think we drafted Gilbert.
But we got Chris Samuels in the end. Or Lavar, forget which one was our regular pick.
Samuels, underrated rock.
LT is one thing this teams does very well.
How many different offenses was it?
It was 2 1st round picks for Gilbert, I believe it was both LaVar and Samuels.
We had ours, Carolina’s and the Saints from the Ricky Williams trade
Got Lavar with the Carolina pick. Traded or other 2 firsts that year to move up to #3 for Samuels
Yes, the skins had 3 firsts in 2000
They are all right
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sean_Gilbert
LA Rams picked him.
Oh I doubt it. I’m in shape for a 43 year old man… but not THAT kinda shape.
Hello?? – Kenard Lang, Anthony Montgomery, Sterling Palmer
First of all I don’t think Scamp is the fattest guy on the comment section.
Clearly we need to find our fatty to have them play the lines.
Not even close… 165 lbs
barely even big enough to play cornerback.
Exactly… maybe kicker
Rudy! Rudy! Rudy!
I’m more suited for flag football
You could probably play scrum-half.
I’m best suited for baseball. I play second base
I’m a MUCH better wrestler than anything at this point… although I do play a mean QB and WR in flag football old persons league
It’d be more sacks than he has now….
BTW
Truth is, if Josh Rosen is still there at 13, than 11 other teams totally messed up the draft. Because there’s no way that a QB needy team isn’t grabbing Rosen by then or that a team behind 13 hasn’t traded up.
This is 100% true
If Josh Rosen and Quentin Nelson are still there at 13, who do you take? I take Nelson.
Nelson every time
It’s not even debatable
Full Nelson
The phone would be ringing off the hook.
I’d throw Rosen’s card into a trash can to make sure it’s not taken by mistake over Nelson’s.
Nelson is the best player in the draft outside of MAYBE Barkley…
The team solved its starting QB problem for the next 3 years, at least, via trade and ended the Cousins drama, and the team has a list of critical needs as long as my arm, and some of you want to draft a QB in round one just because of his ranking on a draft board, while screaming BPABPABPABPABPABPABPABPABPABPABPABPABPABPABPABPABPABPABPABPABPABPABPABPABPA!!!!!!
That’s the kind of thing that makes me want to claw my eyes out when it comes to this team.
So……….more QB in the first talk?
Just the a hypothetical out there
Who do you like ? I like the Spider
Grilled cheese, taco if it’s prison rules
Where the fuck are you, California?
Spider is interesting, day three.
Anybody heard from any Redskins players on Kirk Cousins imminent departure?
Other than the massive party they’re throwing without him, no.
They can finally smoke weed in the locker room
No more Creed
HA! Beat me to it.
Drop that Bronto, you’ll type faster! 😉
Well stop sucking it then.
HA!
Weed and Creed don’t mix.
Suicide and Creed…….now that’s a different story….
D Hall, said Fuckem
Not since Felicia has a departure been so apathetic
The lack of comments from fellow players speaks volumes.
I think part of it is that with the smith trade and even before that it’s all been a forgone conclusion.
Probably just glad it’s over more than anamosity towards Kirk
I’ve never seen an offensive line so eager to look the other way and head to the huddle every time the QB ended up on his back.
you’ve forgotten The Bobby Griffin days already?
Who dat?
lol
They just never knew where he was going to be.
Shit, the Oline looked at RG38.4 laying on the ground and laughed! Much worse with RGIII than Cousins (they just kinda smirked at Kirk).
This!
Whispered “fuck that guy”
damn, it would be nice if we had a team indentity and we all ‘knew’ more or less what position or type of player we’re looking for. since we don’t, and we have many needs, we are all over the place. I adhere to the teams with the best line play(both sides of the ball) usually win. Period.
I think we do have an idenity…we’re gonna throw it all over the joint on offense, and on defense we’re going to get pressure up the middle.
pressure up the middle? I hope so…hasn’t been that way in forever tho
That’s what your wife said.
That’s funny! Gotta say I threw that pitch out there and you swung and connected. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and then.
and on defense we’re going to get pressure up the middle.
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BWAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAH!!!!!!!!
When the bleep are we going to do that?
Shit, that was funny, Rick.
Did you see ANY games early in the season…Ioannidis and Allen were destroying the pocket.
and when they rotated out…nada! injuries of course devastated us
ZIGGY!
I watched them all. Not at Philthy.
Looked good for a while ’til Allen was out. Thing is, though, you need more than one baller on the dline ’cause if he goes down, so does your gameplan. Draft more DL high.
They’re both film rats. I bet they did an excellent job of game prep.
Vea not in Jeremiah’s top ten. I was mistaken.
No surprise there….
LOL,
If Rosen falls to 13, do we take him? I say yes.
Heck no. That’d be very dumb. Top of the depth chart QB isn’t a need.
People thinking about taking a qb in the first 😑🔫
It’s crazy talk, to me.
Rosen is my favorite QB in this draft. I would do it for Mayfield and definitely wouldn’t take Allen there
Same here. For Rosen – clearly, I think he’s the top QB in the draft. Long term solution at QB. Could move Alex after a year if needed.
I’m taking him only as a pick and then trade sort of thing. Can we do that even?
Yes, that can be done.
thx
Just like taking a car off the lot, he’ll lose value.
(these dudes are thinking the Bills will throw two number ones at us)
Yes you can still do pick n trades I believe.
Trade away Fuller and a 3rd just to bail on the acquired player after one season of play?
Sunk cost.
Some health concerns with Rosen, though. Already had two concussions and one surgery on his throwing shoulder.
Yes.
Ideal situation. Ya’ feelin’ me, Buffalo?
I would.
Yes, I’d take Rosen or Mayfield.
Gotta get Ryan “Gruden” on a new deal.
Agreed
He’s really only had one good year
He can’t be asking for the moon
Don’t have to – he’s a decent back of the depth chart guy; worthy of a small new deal, but not a tragedy if he leaves.
It will be to some Redskins fans…you know they get when a player leaves…it’s the WORST thing in the world and “he been done wrong”.
That’s not a very good lure.
that’s fans over estimating ‘our’ players worth or skills.
Pretty sure you’d be the only dude throwing stuff at the wall if that happened Rick.
Are you kidding? You don’t have to read our twitter mentions about stuff like this.
For Grant? Come on now.
Nelson Payne vita or will Hernandez
That’s who I want in the first
One of these guys
When is Wynn forecast to be taken? I like him.
Second half of the 1st round, probably. I like him a lot, too. Maybe a little more than Hernandez.
Crazy talk
Nah, I think most analysts have Wynn ahead of Hernandez.
If you get him in the 4th, it’s a Wynn win situation.
he won’t last that long
Or, DJames, MFitzpatrick, RSmith, TEdmunds.
no! Need to address both lines before other positions…
B . P . A .
no way
^ All the way. Based of course on a teams projections, one man’s bpa in another man’s jag.
No thanks
Roll with my guys
Pretty good success rate for this metric:
https://twitter.com/PFF_Mike/status/970473406486458368
People talk like its so easy to trade down. It’s not; need someone to really want your pick.
That’s why those mock sites that let you make a bunch of trades are ridiculous – horribly unrealistic.
True. There are lots of offers, but not many of them are worthwhile. And the ones on mocks are crazy
Yes the Mock sights should really be done where most trades are something like a 1st for a later 1st and a 5th, or something you really don’t want to take.
Very true.
FYI 2018 is a double Chubb draft
makes me chubby just thinking about that
Dude, at your age it’s an accomplishment to get one Chubb a season. 😉
I can’t even get a single chubb….
-DC
ok, so, is it fair for a team to ask at the combine whether a guy is gay? they’re deciding whether to spend millions on the guy. do they have a right to know? is it moral? is it legal?
Why post this twice? No one cared to take this up the first time.
No, and no.
It’s sexual orientation discrimination, so its illegal.
Even in South Carolina?
Well, it might be encouraged there….
It’s against federal law to ask about sexual orientation in a job interview. They also can’t ask about marital or family status, either. The farthest interviewers can really go is to ask if the person has any physical or personal limitations that will prevent the person from doing the job.
I got in trouble once asking a woman who was pregnant if applying for a door-to-door sales job was a good idea.
Well, first you should’ve asked if she was pregnant or just fat.
The followup if she’s fat would be, “will the fact that you are hugely obese prevent you from walking door to door like a normal person?”
If she’s pregnant, you say, “if you go into labor while going door to door, do you expect the company to do anything about it or do you accept the fact that you’re on your own? After all, you volunteered for this.”
I don’t remember how I phrased it, I was 19, so it’s a ways back.
Meh, she was just projecting husband anger at you.
In December, Gruden was asked if he viewed Moreau as a potential long-term starter for Washington.
His answer?
“No question.”
“I think next year in the offseason and training camp is going to be a great test for him, but I think he’s got the chance to be a true lockdown corner for us,” Gruden said. “He’s physical. He can run. He’s done great on special teams as a flyer, but like you said, he hasn’t gotten the opportunity because of Bree and Dunny [Quinton Dunbar] and Josh. His opportunity will come and it will come soon.”
From a physical standpoint, Moreau checked off all the boxes for a potential game-changing cornerback. He ran a 4.35-second 40-yard dash – the second fastest time amongst corners – and the best broad jump number at the positon group at 11-feet, four-inches.
Moreau’s metrics: https://www.mockdraftable.com/player/fabian-moreau
imagine having a DLINE thats can apply pressure without blitzing….secondary would feast on that
That’s what was happening early in the season.
which is why we need more dlinemen. we have an injury, or even need to sub out, we don’t need a drop off. can never be too strong on the lines
This. 100% this.
we will probably draft a wr and a rb in the first 2 rounds…watch. smgdh
^DL 1, RB 2. I’m good with that.
And it’s important to have 6 good DL so you can rotate throughout the game and keep them all fresh
Yes!!
That’s certainly better than “gotta look at the tape, obviously” (imagine Dan Aykroyd saying that).
https://twitter.com/Redskins/status/971790164598108160
Expect a Fuller type learning curve
Rick’d
Actually… I outposted you. You lose… again.
Etrod • 12 minutes ago
Trade back from 13, recoup a 3rd and grab a DL
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Need a partner
We will get some kind of trade offer, that’s a sure thing.
If it’s an offer that’s good enough to take, I don’t know.
I think you can trade down a few spots get a 3rd and still get Payne or Vea.
you want someone in the 16-21 range to trade us their #1 and #3 for our #1
That would be ideal
I’ve not seen a single mock draft by the “experts ” , that doesn’t have Vea not going in the top ten .
I seen 55 and a lot don’t have in in top 10
well, you know he will be the first D lineman taken .
no Bradley Chubb will be first DL taken
Interior guys . Anybody that wants an anchor in the middle is going for Vea. Everybody wants that .
Pass rush guys over any other position except QB
We will see. I hope he is there if that’s what they decide they want .
Yeah, Chubb’s probably a top 5 guy. Definitely top 10.
Here’s one: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000919714/article/jeremiah-mock-draft-20-broncos-ravens-among-5-to-take-qb
(smoking finger tips)
I literally just saw one by Jeremiah and he had Vea at 6. Just now .
Just noticed that Casserly has Vea going to the Skins at 13 in his 1.0 mock.
I wonder how accurate he has been over the last few drafts ? Just for shits and giggles .
Be interesting to find out. Charles Davis also has Vea going to the Skins.
btg AustinSkin • 5 minutes ago
Agreed
Those Bama kids are blood
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well we better not draft any Crips then
FYI Bucs Draft hope is
1. Bradley Chubb, DE
2. Sony Michel, RB
not two RBs
What’s ours
OH! That makes more sense. I thought you were talking about rb nick chubb
Gonna revive this from earlier in the draft season: if we don’t go RB in round 1 or 2, and the popular names are gone by round four, I’m all in on Miss. State’s Ito Smith. I think he could be a legitimate steal in this draft, especially since he didn’t even get a Combine invite.
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/the-elite-traits-of-southern-miss-rb-ito-smith-could-make-him-steal-of-2018-nfl-draft/
is it fair for a team to ask at the combine whether a guy is gay? they’re deciding whether to spend millions on the guy. do they have a right to know? is it moral? is it legal?
Yes, I enjoy Andy Griffith reruns – Jeff S.
Who was your favorite character on Gomer Pyle, Gomer or Sgt Carter?
Who, me or “Jeff”?
Anyone who spends a bunch of time around a bunch of other naked dudes is already a little gay anyway, even if they don’t admit it.
This is a very weird statement.
Because it’s sarcasm, or because it’s a little too true?
Because you felt the need to say it in a public forum.
Have you ever seen a grown man naked?
I do go to the gym on a pretty regular basis…
Hanging out in the steam room are you ?
No steam room at my gym… so no
Sauna
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5d9f441a3008ae64634f12869a33c46b1f0387f54e2ee9e97b1c85701474544f.jpg
You had to look that up… I don’t want to know what you had to view in order to find that
I also don’t want to know what your browser history looks like
I doubt he gets any tingle up his leg if that’s why you’re asking.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVwWDj0VtG4
As long as they add “Not that there’s anything wrong with that.”
Think we should trade our Third for Cooks.
Good plan
– George Allen
Someone posted a link to blurb on Alabama’s pro day, saying Da’Shawn Hand impressed. I’m coming around to the idea that this guy could be a steal in round 3 or 4, if he makes it that far. He wasn’t that impressive at Alabama because Saban played him at DE, which is not his best position at 6’4″ and 300 lbs.
He could be a killer at 3-tech if we move him inside. He was THE No. 1 high school recruit in the country, ahead of schlubs like Myles Garrett and Leonard Fournette. Also a high school wrestling champion, which is great for DL. And he did well at the Combine, running a 4.83 forty, 31″ vert, and 110″ long jump, but his agility numbers were disappointing.
Not sure I’d chance it in round 2 when there will probably be better options.
Payne and Hand it is then!
Roll Tide!
Seriously Hand Payne and Allen on the DL would be awesome
Just like when spurrier tried to remake the Gators
Just good this time
One argument for Payne is that he would be fired up if the Redskins selected him. So would his teammates. I’m all for someone who has talent and really wants to be in Burgundy and Gold.
Agreed
Those Bama kids are blood
I still don’t like Payne at 13 but I’d be happy taking him in the 20s if we trade back.
The Redskins need another safety too.
Here’s what sucks about the draft…you have a guy like Sony Michel who could be a lethal difference maker on offense.
It’s too high to draft him at 13 in the 1st, and he probably won’t be there in the 2nd at 44.
That’s the nature of the draft… and why they create boards
he won’t get past #38 and the Bucs if you know what I mean
the Bucs dream draft is Chubb and Michel
both? or one or the other?
both round 1 and round 2
That would be nuts, so not unexpected from the Bucs.
Bradley Chubb and Sony Michel
…really wish we had our 3rd rounder.
me too, now I fear BA will fuck up bad trying to get a 3rd round pick and give away too much in doing so
Trade back from 13, recoup a 3rd and grab a DL
All the jibba-jabba about Kirk, but if you look at the Redskins roster and a few pieces added this offseason…this could be a competitive team.
Health is key
wait til you get to be my age
^still waiting on his daily bowel movement, 3 days now
Prune juice
nope. today I had the runs
LOL feast or famine
it’s famine if I forget where I put my teeth
are you losing hair where you are supposed to have it , and growing hair where your not ?
Do you pee five times a night ?
we were competitive, especially on offense before all the injuries. our defense held us back
There’s always hope . Never lose the faith .
What are you thinking….6-10, 5-11?
IDK, I’m fairly pessimistic after all the drama of the last three years . 8-8 give or take a game.
A named I had not heard that we supposed took a look at during the combine
Corbett, Austin G Nevada
Do we draft guys we interview?
Seems like we don’t often
actually we do draft guys we interview or have on-site for visits
He looked good at the combine, IMO
https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/971780593783582720
Smart move. I don’t get the guys who wait to sign the thing.
prob means they found a trade partner
…BUT THE SPIRIT!!!
Vita Vea. That is all.
I expect he will be better in the pros than he was in college — not that he was bad in college. Washington had him in a squatty, squared up stance that impacted his burst off the line. They also rushed with only three defenders on many occasions because with Vea they could get away with it. He’ll be more productive with 4 – 6 coming on the rush.
Vea or Payne…with…Allen, Ioannidis, Lanier, McGee
Set for years
It would be a good set up.
Yes
If we get Vea or Payne I will be happy.
I’ll be happier if Quenton Nelson is there at 13, but yeah.
I could live with that also get D-line in second round.
Derwin James
Derwin wouldn’t be bad either, I could see them going a few different ways.
^Don’t ask this question at the Combine.
…or Roquan Smith
It’s a bit early, but I’ve started working on my personal draft board which I will probably share for critique at some point. Obviously things will change a bit based on who we get as free agents. But I’m done with the hardest part where I go find a bunch of different draft boards like the ones on Walter Football, CBS Sports, Fanspeak, and average out every players ranking. But I usually take an average of all the player rankings, and then factor in what our positions of need are to come up with one.
Nice
It’s just nerdy fun.
But based on the average rankings, here’s who I’ve got in the top 10, with out factoring in Skins needs, once I factor in facts like we don’t need a 1st round QB this will change:
2.6666666667
EDGE
BRADLEY
CHUBB
3.1111111111
RB
SAQUON
BARKLEY
3.5555555556
S
MINKAH
FITZPATRICK
4.5555555556
G
QUENTIN
NELSON
7.6666666667
LB
ROQUAN
SMITH
10.2222222222
S
DERWIN
JAMES
11.8888888889
QB
BAKER
MAYFIELD
13.8888888889
LB
TREMAINE
EDMUNDS
14.5555555556
QB
JOSH
ROSEN
16.8888888889
RB
DERRIUS
GUICE
BTW it’s amazing how varied some random players are ranked late in the draft. In all the different boards I’ve see, I’ve counted over 600 players, but there will only be 260 picks in the actual draft.
54 mocks tracked and the results are
Vita Vea, DT, Washington 13
Derwin James, S, Florida State 11
Da’Ron Payne, DT, Alabama 7
Roquan Smith, ILB, Georgia 5
Calvin Ridley, WR, Alabama 4
Denzel Ward, CB, Ohio State 3
Marcus Davenport, DE, Texas-San Antonio 2
Josh Jackson, CB, Iowa 2
Tremaine Edmunds, LB, Virginia Tech 1
Quenton Nelson, G, Notre Dame 1
Minkah Fitzpatrick, S, Alabama 1
Mike Hughes, CB, Central Florida 1
Maurice Hurst, DL, Michigan 1
Josh Allen, QB, Wyoming 1
James Washington, WR, Oklahoma State 1
stilling waiting on one of the NFL.com pundits to issues his 2.0 version so that Josh Allen pick will disappear
Thanks for compiling all of this.
you’re welcome
D_C bots working overtime. I want this reported to Robert Mueller.
Payne or Vea. I’d be happy with either.
I’m sure Tomsula has seen plenty of film on both.
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Someone asked about Shanny era holdovers the other day…
https://twitter.com/TandlerNBCS/status/971768503538565120
I fail to see why this is news worthy at all.? Who cares?
Someone asked…
saw that after I posted…sorry
Tom Brady shaved his head for a cancer fundraiser
a 666 tattoo was found under his hair line, which really explains everything.
HA!
He and Farrakhan share the same mark eh?
Farrakhan’s was in Arabic numerals.
lol
this joke totally went over D_C’s head
I’m guessing it goes over way more peoples heads than we want to admit as a nation.
turns a blind eye to anything negative associated with ‘his’ party… each party is worse than the other.
yeah, that 1st anniversary tattoo… Giselle and Tom really got it on that first year. it’s almost not believable.
Did not know this fact
Signet Jewelers, owns Kay, Zales, Sterling and Jared chains
Did not care about this fact
Fixed it for ya
The jewelry industry is all an incestuous family business so I’m not shocked.
there’s a lot of tribalism/racism involved I’m sure in how all of these things came to be.
I mean, in the olden days in Europe, Jews couldn’t own land but Christians could not lend money to make money (the Pope had a very strict definition of usury). So guess what happens? That’s right Jews became farmers and… wait…
Almost all the stuff a bank does goes against the bible. It’s my understanding that the Torah had vary hard and fast rules about charging interest on a loan.
I’ve wondered if going back to some of those rules maybe would help with the current economic situation nationally.
I’ve done loans to companies owned by Muslims; there is special language you have to use in order to make it appear as though you aren’t charging interest, even though you are.
steve,
apparently they think that is sufficient to trick god…. just like with the marriage/prostitute/divorce trick. genius.
What people don’t understand is that God loves someone who can find a good loophole. Just look at the whole story about Job.
so God loves lawyers and accountants?
That’s always a fun subject in regards to God’s word. Blindly trusting in him to solve every single problem you face is not how it’s written.
So no on separation of church and state? Without debt, our economy doesn’t stand. Now get out there and build that FICO score, you can do it!
The fact that our economy is based on debt is a major underlying issue for every problem we have as a society.
Obviously I’m not saying churches should lend money, just that we should look at changing to an economic system that strives to keep people out of the eternal debt cycle.
And my credit score is just fine, mid 700’s last I checked. Not that I need it to be at this point, I own a house and a car, good to go.
Well fwiw, I wasn’t saying that “you” had a bad credit score. You know the only thing that will tear us away from that model is complete destruction, and the new model, rising from the ashes, will also seek to control. Just sayin’
Very true. It’s a classic power vacuum situation. But the whole credit score thing is idiotic, when we wanted to buy a house my credit score was terrible, not because I’m irresponsible, but because till then I’d never owed a debt to anyone for anything.
Yep
Merchants and Bankers, fixed it for you.
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The #Redskins re-signed S Deshazor Everett to a 2-year deal worth $2.6M, source said. He gets a $250K signing bonus.
Superbowl
His new 2018 Cadillac Escalade in Black with Gold Rims is on order
LOL
Burgundy and Gold right?
Vea or bust for me. If we can’t get Vea…I’m either trading back if at all possible or drafting another position at 13.
aren’t you tired of teams marching down the field against our weak dline?
I am but Vea is the only one worth a pick that high. If Dewin James is left at 13 we should probably draft him. Or Edmunds or Roquan
Give me Payne
Harrison Phillips.
BJ Hill
Will Hernandez at 13
This guy in the second
Doesn’t fit the NFL Network rehash.
Is Payne any different than Dalvin Tomlinson from last year?
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A team asked Luke Falk who calls the runs at Washington State? Falk said Head Coach Mike Leach ONLY calls passes, all the runs are done at the line of scrimmage. Now that is an amazing set up.
I think we need to get that guy in the 4th
I was thinking the same thing man. Let him learn under smith for 2-3 years
I’ve actually been talking about him and Vita since last year.
Seer
Lucky sometimes… For some reason I saw a lot of Washington games last year.
He’s gonna get drafted way to high because a team that misses out on one of the to 4 will get desperate
Yes, he’s still my pick if he’s there.
A while back Grant and Danny had a stat about QB’s picked after the 4th that totally changed my mind about drafting QB’s. Basically that the 2 most successful QB’s taken 5-7th are Tom Brady #1, and #2 Trevor Siemain and after that it’s a bunch of guys who aren’t even JAGs.
That fact got me totally re-thinking the ideas of drafting QB’s in the 6th or 7th round.
In Gus we Trust
Interesting formula. Isn’t that kinda what Payton Manning had?
Dont be surprised if Falk goes in the late first round
I’ll be VERY surprised if that happens
I will book it now that he doesn’t get past the 2nd round
Stranger things have happened
Don’t get me wrong, he SHOULD go in the 4th, but teams get desperate and do dumb things.
They sure do
Desperate and Dumb would be to take him in the 2nd I think. First, no way.
But if the Giants don’t take a QB in the 1st, I could see them grabbing him in the 2nd.
I think he’s going to be a good pure pocket passer
Buffalo?
I think denver traded up a couple of years ago, but a lot of playoff teams aren’t QB needy.
I wouldn’t put it past a team like the Pats to grab him late 3rd.
I don’t think they go with a guy they think can play alongside Ionnidis and Allen, and therefore, prob looking at guys who would be college DTs who will play 3-4 DE here.
And for the record, I’d still rather have one of the top RBs – Barkley, Guice, Jones, Michael – over DL as far as my personal draft priorities go.
No way. Look at our division. We have to solidify with better than average talent on both lines. Stopping the rush is paramount. Barkley only, after him, the rb’s drop off considerably. Build the lines please.
well the issue is that our DL starters aren’t bad, it’s just that if Allen and Ion… Eon… I… the greek kid from Temple, get hurt, it’s not a pretty sight. they were murdering OL when they were both healthy.
When healthy, they weren’t a disaster and will get better this year.
we need more tho…look, again, at our division.
Running the ball was a complete zero, to me. Both are critical needs, for sure, but this team is in desperate need of ball-carrying playmakers.
We absolutely need both but if we can’t stop other teams, like we haven’t lately, we’re out of it. Offense hasn’t been the reason we’ve lost. Grab a FA left guard and fortify the def line please.
They need both, but my priority is definitely RB.
Given our inability of the past few seasons to stop other teams from marching down the field on us, yet scoring plenty to win, how do you come to this conclusion?
There’s a give and take nature either way.
If you make the defense better at stopping the run, the offense will get on the field more and get more chances.
If you give the offense a better run game, it keeps the defense off the field.
Because we have 1st round pick coming back this year who only played 6 games last year but looked very good doing it; the DL is bound to be better even if they make no changes. The running game, on the other hand, was essentially totally ineffective for a huge swath of the season, and it wasn’t just due to OL injuries. Our RB core has been neglected and/or ineffectively managed for years outside of Chris Thompson.
i appreciate your answer. Respectfully disagree but ty Mr. Steve.
The issue is that Saquon is probably the only Rd 1 RB. The others are somewhat similar and some of them will be available at 44
I’m not sure that’s the case with Guice.
do you grade Guice as rd 1 pick? If so, it would have to be late rd 1
The way our OL run blacked last year, nobody would have gotten any production.
Watching Bama a few times this year, Payne could really eat up space/blockers. The few times they tried to block him one on one didn’t turn out very well for the offense.
There should be a really good defensive lineman available if the skins trade down
how far down? I don’t want another jag on that dline! I want a ferocious dline.
Back down to the late teens or early 20s
i don’t like it
I think Payne or Vea will still be there
and if they’re not? we’ve shit the bed…
if Edmunds is there, he’s prob a more important prospect to the def (as a starter) than either Payne or Vea)
Seen a lot of mocks with him (Vita Vea) going #10 to the Raiders.
If Vea is there and we get him, it’s a great pick. Payne not a bad 2nd option obviously. But if some how both are gone, I’d just make DT a priority in round 2.
I think Payne should probably be the first option.
Agreed, especially if POONA is off the board.
Poona is already off the board for round 1… or 2… or….
udfa
I’ll be pissed if the boys take him in later rounds.
Just hoping the Skins are there for Texas Pro Day on March 28
did he grow up close to a nuclear power plant? His arms are so short as to look peculiar.
Fake news, and you know it. Russian bot.
lmao
He might not even be drafted at all, though, if I’m thinking of the right guy; possible UDFA signing.
That’s my opinion as well. Payne first
Bring the Payne!
POONA!!!
We tried Poona once but did not like it
— Jerry Smith and David Kopay
He got on the board for best name