Kirk Cousins and His Coming King-Sized Contract, Part 4
January 17, 2018
By Steve Thomas
Well, it’s that time again – the time of the offseason where I feel the need to prattle on, and on, and on, about Kirk Cousins contract possibilities. I can’t begin to describe just how much I didn’t want to have to write this column. My primary fear is that I’m going to be up to Part 10 before the Redskins’ never-ending waltz with this player takes its final spin. I apologize for torturing our readers with this topic, but it remains the elephant in the room until he either leaves this franchise or is signed to a multi-year deal. If you would like to read the previous iteration of this column from March, 2017, click here: http://www.thehogsty.com/2017/03/27/kirk-cousins-and-his-coming-king-sized-contract-part-3/. If you would like to read my previous analysis of comparable quarterback contracts from July, 2016, click here, because I’m not going to update it again here: http://www.thehogsty.com/2016/07/19/updated-kirk-cousins-and-his-coming-king-sized-contract/. The fact of the matter is that the way the Redskins have handled the Cousins situation has made this moment much more difficult. I’m not going to use this space to argue about what’s in Cousins’ head, what his father thinks, or how much certain local media personalities like or dislike him. Instead, I’ll walk through the Redskins options that they have this offseason and let you make up your own mind about what you would like to see happen.
The Options
Right now, the Redskins options regarding Cousins are as follows:
- Place the exclusive franchise tag on him at an approximate cost of $34.5M.
- Place the transition tag on him at an approximate cost of $28.8M.
- Begin to negotiate a contract with Cousins without placing any tag on him.
- Let Cousins leave without either tagging him or attempting to negotiate a contract.
The Exclusive Franchise Tag
The Redskins bucked normal NFL trends and placed the franchise tag on Cousins for both the 2016 and 2017 seasons, paying him $20M and $24M respectively per season. The Collective Bargaining Agreement provides that Washington can tag Cousins an unprecedented third year in a row at an approximate cost of $34.5M, an amount that would be fully guaranteed and thus result in an equivalent hit on the Redskins’ 2018 salary cap. The CBA mandates that this tag, if used, must be the “Exclusive Tag”, which means that Cousins would not have the authority to negotiate deals with any other team. The first day Washington can exercise their tag option is February 20, 2018. If used, the team can then continue to negotiate a long-term contract with Cousins until July 16, 2018. Beyond that date, the Redskins and Cousins can only enter into the one year franchise tag contract and may not discuss a multi-year deal until after the 2018-19 season.
If the 2018-19 salary cap is approximately $177M, and the Redskins have, generously, $5M in rollover cap, that puts the team’s final cap number at $182M. At that cap level, Cousins’ $34.5M contract would use roughly 19% of available cap space, significantly more than the 13% that he used in this past season.
That’s the franchise tag for 2018. What’s important about this issue, though, is that by using the tag, the Redskins establish a baseline salary figure for future years. In simple terms, if the Redskins pay him $34.5M in 2018, they realistically can’t then expect Cousins to accept a reduction in his annual compensation from that figure going forward unless his performance declines. This is why a long term deal, if it was going to happen, needed to happen in this past offseason in order to make it reasonably cap friendly. Even I, in all my brilliance, can’t design a contact that escalates up from $34.5M in annual cash for 5 years and have it remain in the ballpark of reasonable in terms of cap usage. Ideally, the Redskins would not want to go over approximately 15% cap usage at the most; starting at annual cash of $34.5M makes that very tough, if not impossible. Cousins would without a doubt become the highest paid player in NFL history. He probably will be no matter what.
Therefore, by tagging Cousins with the exclusive tag, in my view Washington is guaranteeing one of three possible results: (1) Cousins leaves at the end of the 2018-19 season because the front office realizes that they shouldn’t pay Cousins or any quarterback that much money going forward; (2) the Redskins use this offseason to negotiate a long-term deal with Cousins that uses the $34.5M figure and ends up being extremely disruptive to the salary cap in terms of usage, or (3) Cousins plays out the 2018-19 season on the franchise tag but negotiates a new deal with the Redskins at the end of next season. The third option is without a doubt the most onerous towards the team. Notably, it is very unlikely that using the franchise tag will result in a long-term contract between Kirk Cousins and the Redskins that will be friendly enough to the Redskins to not put the team in a bind faced by teams like the Tony Romo-led Cowboys or the Joe Flacco-led Ravens. There just isn’t a good option that is likely to come out of this course of action unless Cousins himself decides to sacrifice for the good of the team – possible, not perhaps not likely. After all, Cousins is a player, not management, and has no obligation to help the team manage its salary cap. Could Cousins be altruistic enough to place winning over money? Sure, but that’s generally a rare proposition. More probably, it’s either going to just delay the inevitable arrival of a new quarterback in Washington or put the Redskins in a long-term cap bind.
The Transition Tag
The transition tag is basically a $28.8M right of first refusal. The transition tag is another tool provided by the CBA, but the language that limits the use of the franchise tag to three consecutive years does not include the use of the transition tag. In essence, the application of the transition tag by the Redskins would provide Cousins with a fully guaranteed one year offer worth approximately $28.8M, but would allow Cousins to negotiate a contract (including a multi-year deal) with another team this offseason. In the event Cousins reaches an agreement with another team, Washington would then have the right to retain Cousins by matching the offer he received from the other franchise.
Sounds pretty good, right? At least better than the onerous franchise tag? Well, there are three fairly major problems with this for Washington. First, $28.8M is still a high cap usage rate – approximately 16%. Even if the team could live with this for a year, the bigger problem is that a number of teams have significantly more cap space in 2018 than do the Redskins. Those franchises could easily design a contact that would either be out of Washington’s price range to match or would be a huge drain on the team’s salary cap. In other words, the Redskins could go through the agony of tagging him, but would still very likely lose him anyway or destroy their salary cap. And guess what? That contract offer from another team doesn’t necessarily have to come before the draft. It could come as late as early July, which would put the Redskins in huge bind at quarterback going forward. Also: losing a player to another team via the transition tag does not come with compensation to the losing team via draft picks. Absent something crazy happening, the only compensation Washington will receive is a third round compensatory draft pick from the NFL. Finally, much like the exclusive franchise tag, using the transition tag would once again set a baseline for negotiations with Cousins for a long-term deal that would put significant stress on the salary cap in future years. The Redskins would again be forced to rely on the generosity of Cousins to solve this problem when he has no real motivation to do so – cap management is the team’s problem, not his.
The No Tag Option
Not using any tag on Cousins this offseason has both the most risk and the greatest potential for successful resolution. This option allows the most flexibility in terms of the Redskins’ ability to negotiate with Cousins without any preset salary floors that are created by the use of either the exclusive tag or the transition tag. The downside, of course, is that no barrier exists preventing Cousins from leaving Washington for whatever greener pastures he so desires. This is the scenario that those who like Cousins but believe that he wants to leave DC most fear, but it may be the only way to design a contract that can work for Washington under the salary cap and still preserve a degree of flexibility going forward.
Just let him leave
The last option, of course, is for the team to decide to jump off the burning Ferris wheel – or more accurately stated, the Ferris wheel that they lit on fire themselves – and not tag Cousins and also not try to negotiate with him. If that happens, the Redskins will be back on the quarterback market, again, for what seems like the 167th time in the last 25 years, which is sub-optimal.
So, Steve, can we have a prediction?
I swore to myself I wouldn’t do this again, but here I am; the point in this column where I once again feel the need to take a stab at a realistic contract that Cousins might sign. For those of you who didn’t read Part 3 of this column from last offseason, this was my guess at a contract offer last year that could’ve both worked for the Redskins and Cousins, thereby resulting in a deal:
Total value: 5 years, $130M, $20M signing bonus (all paid at signing), $57M guaranteed at signing, $62M total guaranteed.
Year 1, 2017-18 season: $17M base salary (fully guaranteed), $21M cap hit, $37M dead cap
Year 2, 2018-19 season: $20M base salary (fully guaranteed), $24M cap hit, $36M dead cap
Year 3, 2019-20 season: $20M base salary (non-guaranteed), roster bonus of $5M that accrues on first day of league year, $29M cap hit, $17M dead cap
Year 4, 2020-21 season: $23M base salary (non-guaranteed), $27M cap hit, $8M dead cap
Year 5, 2021-22 season: $25M base salary (non-guaranteed), $29M cap hit, $4M dead cap
Now, of course, this option is no longer applicable due to Cousins playing out the tag for this past season at $20M. What the use of the franchise tag in 2017 did is essentially add a few million to this same model. Therefore, I believe you should be thinking in this neighborhood for a 5 year contract that will get Kirk’s attention:
5 years, $159M, $20M signing bonus, $70M guaranteed at signing, $96M total guarantees
Year 1, 2018-19 season: $24M base salary (fully guaranteed), $28M cap hit, $44M dead cap
Year 2, 2019-20 season: $26M base salary (fully guaranteed), $30M cap hit, $42M dead cap
Year 3, 2020-21 season: $26M base salary (non-guaranteed at signing), roster bonus of $5M that accrues on first day of league year; base salary becomes fully guaranteed on first day of league year; $35M cap hit, $17M dead cap
Year 4, 2021-22 season: $28M base salary (non-guaranteed), $32M cap hit, $8M dead cap
Year 5, 2022-23 season: $30M base salary (non-guaranteed), $34M cap hit, $4M dead cap
If you think this sounds like an unconscionably large contract for Cousins, I agree with you. It is. But the Redskins did this to themselves – this is the effect of Washington’s inability to make a decision on this player and instead continually kicking the can down the road another year via the franchise tag. It’s obscenely large and I doubt that I’d pay this myself if I were in charge of the Redskins, but I believe that this is the ballpark in which the team is playing now and the numbers to which Washington must at least get close to in order to have a shot at signing this player; after all, Cousins once again passed for over 4,000 yards and posted a quarterback rating of near 100 this season despite injuries causing the Redskins to become one of the most non-threatening offenses in the NFL. The sad thing is that there are other teams that can and most likely will pay this amount or more. Cousins essentially has no motivation to compromise unless he truly is the rare, one-in-one thousand person who is willing to sacrifice significant money in order to help his team out with the salary cap. That having been said, if I were in charge of the Redskins, these numbers would be the absolute maximum – not one penny more.
In terms of salary cap percentage usage, working off my estimate from last year about cap increases, the salary cap, including the addition of a $5M annual rollover, should look something like this for the next 5 years:
2018-19: $182M
2019-20: $192M
2020-21: $202M
2021-22: $212M
2022-23: $222M
Quite a bit will happen by the end of this period, namely a new collective bargaining agreement and new broadcast contracts, but trying to predict the effect of those two issues on the salary cap is a fool’s errand and well beyond the scope of this column. Using those estimates, these would be Cousins’ annual approximate cap usage using the contract I proposed:
2018-19: 15.4%
2019-20: 15.6%
2020-21: 17.3%
2021-22: 15.1%
2022-23: 15.3%
As you can see, this hypothetical, approximate cap usage percentages are high, but not so high as to be prima facia unreasonable with the exception of the 2020-21 season, depending on how close my salary cap estimates actually get. If my cap estimates are even a few million too high, that could change things pretty dramatically.
Conclusion
I honestly don’t know what to think about this situation at this point. I’m tired of debating what’s in Kirk’s head, whether he wants to become a free agent, what the Redskins’ front office is thinking, or whether or not they’ve done everything they could. What matters is the here and now. In terms of options, I strongly believe that the only way to go is to not tag Kirk and hope for the best, for the sake of salary cap preservation. The least attractive option, by far, is the use of the exclusive franchise tag, which would (a) result in a wildly large cap hit this year, and (b) most likely delay resolution of this problem by another year. The transition tag is slightly better, although it will almost certainly result in offers from other teams that are way out of the Redskins’ reach. What will actually happen? I have absolutely no idea. Please, Redskins, all I ask is that you don’t do something that will make me write Part 5.
What do you think? Let us know in the comment section below.
John Wall and Bradley Beal NOT voted to the All-Star team….
Pathetic…2, max deal players
“In passing situations, they can rush with four. Watching the New Orleans game, [Mike] Zimmer has dialed back on blitzes because he can pressure with four guys, and he can play four or five standard coverages.- Jay Gruden
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That’s the key…getting pressure with four…what was us before Allen got hurt.
Good read, those numbers should do it, if Bruce proposes them. Kirk had said he was open to revisiting the deal ala Brady if the team needed him to in the future.
Are we posting here or on the Doc walker interview?
Happy Thursday!
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a dog can freakin kill you in a second. they are impressive animals. your picture, i think, is from a series of pics some guy took of dogs jumping and “attacking” balls and so forth in a pool. absolutely stunning pics.
We have a nice little interview for you all to go listen to. With a particular former TE
http://www.thehogsty.com/2018/01/18/the-return-of-rick-doc-walker/
Democrats introducing a bill to legalize pot and provide restorative justice to communities impacted by the war on drugs.
http://www.businessinsider.com/marijuana-justice-act-marijuana-legalization-bill-introduced-in-house-2018-1
and California wants to legalize prostitution
Alright kids. Play nice. Catch ya’ll on the flip.
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Night Kon
Night hamsters
Night Scamp
Alright, off to bed. Good luck with the tyke, Kelly.
Hey. heard you had something going on… not sure what it was but good luck to you. Hope it works out.
Thanks. Not sure what it is either but hopefully the MRIs I had today will shed some light. Every morning’s a new adventure … see which parts of me move and which don’t.
Just don’t chew off the ones that don’t
Are you seeing a neurologist , I guess you would be .
Yeah, I am. Hoping he’ll tell me what the MRIs say before my scheduled apptmt. in a few weeks.
Those guys are super smart . I had one for a time , but I didn’t have your issues .
I’m sorry to hear that dirty cat. I’ll add you to my prayer list
Thanks DC. Keep us posted on the scans.
You had media on the right suggesting that Obama might be a terrorist, was a Muslim, was born in Kenya, and just might be the freakin’ antichrist, but NOW the media is hysterical because they question whether the president is fibbing about his weight. Okay.
No… the media was hysterical then, too. The media is ALWAYS hysterical.
I think it’s important to distinguish between journalists and partisan editorialists.
Sure sure… problem is that it’s hard to find actual journalists these days. I was bummed when Al Jazeera went off the air.
I don’t think it’s really that hard. The big three networks, PBS News Hour, BBC, WaPo, NYT, WSJ, Politico, The Hill, etc. Some of them have a slant as to what they cover, but what they report is generally accurate. I think that’s also true of Fox’s actual news broadcast, as opposed to all the chat shows.
WaPo, NYT, and the Wall Street Journal…
Sorry… only a liberal would believe that
These are the news organizations that have done the most most important and respected investigative journalism over the course of generations, and they have stacks of Pulitzers to back it up.
Yet they’ve gone to shit…
Have to agree to disagree. I think what’s gone to shit is the American people’s ability to separate fact from fiction.
It’s a matter of perspective. Either all of the mainstream media went left, or America went right.
The GOP and DNC have definitely gone right. When Gingrich is complaining that things have gone too far and Reagan’s crew was upset with Gingrich… it’s like there have been 5 conservative revolutions since 1980, and the Dems have had to keep going right to keep up.
Me too
It’s all Obama’s fault!
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That’s funny
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How many times am I going to watch this before I don’t need to anymore?
Let us know when it happens…
Can’t say as I recall any of my doctors over the years being the one who weighed me in. It’s always been someone else.
Medical assistant
So now that we’ve established that the doctor was merely reading a number that was given to him….
Before we cry too hard about how Trump is being victimized about whether he is telling the truth about his health, please remember that it was Trump himself who ran his mouth the most, and the loudest, in public and in the media, about how Obama faked his birth certificate.
He’s not the one telling it The Dr is . The same white house Dr that Obama had . A military Dr . What do you not understand about that ?
What I don’t understand is how people are suddenly surprised that the media makes mountains out of imaginary molehills, and that this is somehow a new thing.
I’m not at all surprised anymore . I’m just discussing and responding to comments .
Oh I wasn’t surprised at all… that’s what they always do. The only comment I made was about the raging hypocrisy and the medical diagnosis from “doctors” that have never even met the guy much less examined him.
Or worse , so called journalist making all sorts of accusations calling into question a military Dr’s credibility . All you have to do is watch the press conference .
How did the military figure out that Trump is suddenly an inch taller than he’s ever been before? Saying “He’s a military doctor” doesn’t mean “There’s no chance he would fabricate a report about his Commander in Chief’s weight.” Not all military people are picture of integrity, ask anyone who was in Vietnam.
Tell me this fat fuck is 236 pounds.
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That Dr. you are besmirching is pretty well respected and an Admiral. Not sure I’m going to call his character into question from my couch just because I happen to not like the President.
I’m not saying shit about his character, I’m saying that the man in the the white pants above is not 236 pounds, and for quite some time, he’s been 6’2″. HOW he became 6’3″ and HOW he became 236 I don’t know. I don’t know shit about the doctor.
I don’t care about his actual weight. Just, don’t try telling me that the president is 239 lbs.
That’s what raised eyebrows. There’s just no believing it. I mean sure, if the report was accurate, there would have been people making jokes and being assholes…but that’s no reason to give us a bogus weight.
That said…can’t tell me that Hillary’s people would not have hidden her actual weight from the public too.
No more reason to debate this . You have said this man is a liar. I can’t disprove that . End of discussion .
Trump is a liar – that’s just a fact. I don’t know if this doctor is the one who did the measurements and said that he verifies the results, but if he is, then yeah, I’d question his integrity, cuz the president is clearly in the 260-270 range. Or hell, maybe he binge fasted to make weight, I don’t know, but I find it oddly convenient that his new and improved BMI is just under “obese” by the wire.
If Trump is anything, it’s vain. I could absolutely see his people changing the report to make him look better.
The Dr reported his findings . According to some , the Dr is lying . Its that simple .
kelly,
as you’ve discerned EVERYTHING trump says is a lie. “whatever trump says, the other thing is true” is a simple, fool-proof strategy for trying to understand him. if he says he had bacon and eggs for breakfast, that means he did not have bacon and eggs for breakfast.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physician_to_the_President
This is the guy you are accusing of lying . I’m not just “saying ” he is a military Dr , He was also King Obama’s Dr . Your hatred for Trump prevents you from being rational , in my opinion .
Yea… no one cares
Back to eschewing politics now that you’ve made the points you want to make about the media and illegal immigrants?
I’m sorry… what does the media and illegal immigrants killing cops have to do with politics?
Oh that’s right… with you guys EVERYTHING has to do with politics
Weren’t you the one talking about how this liberal city or that liberal city was going to probably let him off? That’s not political to you?
It was a bad joke… you know, how they let the other murderer go.
Right on. I’m sorry for being bitchy, the newborn is super fussy and there’s fuck all I can do about it.
Get in the car and drive mi hermano
…and there’s no way they’ll let this scumbag go. He’s the worst of the worst. Sacramento might actually execute his ass.
Turn on the dryer , put her on top of it .
Did that with my first kids – gotta stacked w/d now, though
Well don’t put her in it…
Sorry . If I had known you were having a bad night , I would have let the political jibba jabba go . its not important to me , just something to argue about .
We’ll be okay, just gotta ride out the first couple of months.
Not to mention that Trump has *always* been the first one to disparage others based on their personal appearance. Particularly women. As you reap….
No argument there…
kelly,
are you seriously wondering about whether trump is being truthful about something? anything?
And now, Vikings
DVR…
Shhhhhhhh
I just finished IT, haven’t watched this episode yet.
I’ve been sitting on this season. Didn’t mean to, but with just what, two more after tonight…I’ll wait till the season is done and then get my binge on.
King’s The Stand, unabridged….that was one epic ass read.
Took forever…
I liked ‘The Long Walk’ also.
I’ll bet a 12 piece meal at KFC that the scale the president stood on wasn’t calibrated to zero.
Watching Barrett Jackson auction . Bad ass cars .
Best auction going
It must be really nice to go bid on your dream car and take it home, I can’t fathom it
Without having to restore it yourself.
Okay, I don’t know how true this is… but I saw approval ratings for Trump among black men is up like 10%… among black women like 6%
…and no I didn’t get it from his mouth… I saw a poll. Now I’m trying to find it real quick…
Okay… I can’t find it…
Maybe I should book mark things when I read…
Look, I’m eschewing politics here but I feel I should make a point. I watched MSNBC the other day and one of the anchors was saying something like “if that’s what 6′ 3″ 240 lbs. looks like” while laughing…
Aren’t these the same people that completely crucify people for making fun of Hillary’s fat ass?
At least TRY to not seem like a raging hypocrite. Just TRY…
They’ve been losing it since the Dr made his press conference . Pretty much accused him of being a liar .
They really lost it when he said Trump passed his cognitive test with a perfect score . Unhinged .
I was watching CNN and saw ol Dr. Gupta giving all sorts of heart diagnosis and came out and straight up said Trump had heart disease… and he’s never even examined the man. I mean, shouldn’t you, I don’t know, at least MEET the man first? That guy should lose any medical certifications he has.
plenty of legit arguments and criticisms can be made with Trump. They lose credibility when they launch these unhinged made up fake BS attacks . Its why many people don’t believe them or trust them anymore . They know a load a shit when they see it
MSNBC is too in the tank for the Dems to watch.
That being said, I’m kinda shocked that the WH docs can say Trump looks like the picture of health, but who am I? Maybe he’s super healthy.
I don’t think they said that . In fact they said he needed to exercise and lose a little weight .
So… does anyone besides people looking for a good laugh like me watch it?
lol….and you ask me how can I finish watching a shitty movie?
Touche
(in my defense MSNBC didn’t last that long… nor CNN)
She fainted on the campaign trail and it didn’t draw anything close to Trumps physical .
president > candidate
Yeah , but she was a lock to be the president . Everybody said so . She was our next president , until she wasn’t . Voters had a right to know if their candidate had health problems
True. Just…a president can fart in an elevator and it will be a bigger deal in today’s environment than a candidate shitting their pants.
So true
And now. I’m stuck with an image of Hillary crapping her pant suit.
Good lord. Horrible thing to visualize.
Two terrible choices and here we are .
Worse than the movie?
By a pantload
I think the sarcasm was directed at the fact that he was allegedly lying about his weight, as opposed to him being fat.
What did he say his weight was?
230 something
Some were reporting that he wanted to list his weight at 199 lbs, but his staffers were finally able to convince him that no one would buy that. I mean, no one except the 35% who literally believe everything he says.
199? not even on the moon
No one would believe that, c’mon man
That’s a highly respected military DR . I find it hard to believe any such shenanigan’s were discussed .
I gather the plan idea was to release it from the WH and not the doctor.
OTOH, is it a little suspicious that he was listed at 239 lbs? One more pound and he would be classified as clinically obese.
So he’s like most of the country… who gives a shit?
The plan as reported was for the Dr to stay out there and answer every question and he did so for 45 minutes
Long story short: who gives a shit? He’s a fat ass who doesn’t exercise and has a terrible diet. He should keep it up.
I’m sure we’re all the perfect picture of health…
I think most of us don’t believe that we’re born with a fixed amount of energy, like a disposable battery. That’s what Trump believes and it’s why he doesn’t exercise.
Lot’s of people believe a lot of stupid shit
True, but lots of people aren’t President of the United States.
So that’s the criteria? You’re the President so you can’t believe stupid shit? I’m sure every President believed something stupid. Most people do…
I know I don’t . Just pointing out the hysterical media and why people don’t trust them anymore .
Joking about the president’s weight makes the media hysterical? Okay. I’m more concerned about the president lying his ass off every single day and attacking the free press like a third world dictator.
If he were a third world dictator all these people complaining would be dead in a ditch with a bullet hole behind there ear… try not to go overboard. It doesn’t help make your point.
No , but making medical and clinical assertions because you don’t like the man does . The fix has been in and people are well aware of it
But I’m sure somebody was reporting it . They would never make up some shit .
Who knows? The “official” report the WH released misspelled the doctor’s name.
It came out of the Drs mouth in front of the entire world . Misspelling something intentionally would serve no purpose
Buck, every president gets checkups, it wasn’t an investigation or punishment.
I’m talking about the over the top insane commentary that followed , plus the media’s obvious disdain and disbelief of what the Dr was telling them .
You look at that man and tell me he’s 230lbs.
Dr said he was 239 , if you want to insinuate he is lying , I can’t defend that .
He also said he needed to exercise and eat better .
Like I said… if you weigh him on the moon he might be
I forgot how slow the Skins blogs are on Thursday nights
ROCK FIGHT!!!!!!
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He lost
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Creepy ass movie
Can’t wait for the 2nd part!
I read the book when I was a kid. Watching “it” now.
Same. To this day, it remains the only book that I had to close, get up and walk the hell away from. It was early on, when Georgie was pulled into the sewer. Freaked me right the fuck out.
That was a freaky story back in the day
Have you watched the movie?
I’ve seen both the old and the new
Steven King, the master.
its wednesday
Well fuck Buck…
I’m screwed
hosed
Lol
Diablo, Clint Eastwood’s kid Luke. Has a pretty cool twist to it.
Geostorm. Such an awful movie that I had to pause it a minute to avoid what was about to be an imminent concussion.
Phew.
Okay. Back to it.
If it’s so bad why would you go back at it?
You ever look away from a train wreck?
I walked out of Titanic…
so yeah
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DRuu8TeNmI
I remember leaving Rawhide Generating Station north of Fort Collins and seeing a bunch of them run through a barbed wire fence in front of me. The car full of Navajo welders ahead of me didn’t see them coming (smoking dope, I think). They run like nothing you’ve ever seen. There was a loose section of wire (they probably stretched it) and they hit the hole at full speed, one after the other, without slowing down. Just put their front legs out and shot right through. Probably 2 dozen. Through the fence on the other side of the road and gone over the rise.
HTTR… what’s your actual name? Will be wierd calling you 65 if/when we meet
Mike Evans. I play on Sunday afternoons in Tampa LOL
Nice… you’re a big dude… and so young looking
Lmao. Moe’s name is JJ Evans.
Ponna Ford measured in under 6 feet. He’ll almost assuredly be there day 3.
That’s a stupid name
Read Keim’s piece where he said Skins looking to upgrade LG and move on from both Lauvaro and Long. Wonder if Nelson is there if they would pull the trigger. Makes sense in that both Philly and NY have stud DTs.
I don’t know if they have that luxury , considering all the needs
I wouldn’t call it a luxury. They need a starter there badly. I do agree they have bigger fish to fry, especially on the defense.
Long was somewhat underwhelming IMO. Serviceable… not sure I would cut that bait though.
Lavaou shouldn’t even be cleaning the toilets at the park
He can’t stay on his feet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFq9Wz3vCMY&feature=share
enter sandman bluegrass version
They have it
I listened to it . It popped up in the box after Sanitarium was finished .
Buck, Terrell declared also.
I heard . Did Settles ?
Yeah, I think so.
Maybe we can get a package deal, lol
Why do I have the sneaking suspicion that Mayfield will have a hard time adjusting to the pro game and henceforth do a bunch of stupid shit ?
She received it Scamp
Nice… looking forward to it
Got hers… we’ll talk tomorrow
she’s good at the real estate market here in Myrtle Beach and she can help you
Can’t wait to get out of this communist state
Just tell her to keep in mind I’m on the West Coast… time change and what not
we got a shitload of needs , again .
…still…
yes
BPA@PON = WINNING
B/R Mock
13. Washington Redskins: Vita Vea, DT, Washington
different B/R Mock
13. Washington Redskins: QB Baker Mayfield, Oklahoma
If it’s a QB I’d take a look at him for sure
If it’s not a QB he would be high on my list
Justin Roger’s Mock Draft
13. Washington Redskins – Calvin Ridley, WR, Alabama
13 may be too high for Ridley. I think he’ll be late first rd
Draft Wire Mock – 4 round Mock
13. Washington Redskins | Derwin James | S | Florida State
Quarterback will obviously be a priority if Kirk Cousins isn’t signed to a long-term deal, but with four passers already off the board, Washington goes with value over need. James is a rare athlete with incredible range and physicality who can instantly transform an entire unit with his presence.
45. Washington Redskins | Nick Chubb | RB | Georgia
77. Washington Redskins | Rasheem Green | DL | USC
109. Washington Redskins | Luke Falk | QB | Washington State
Seen this one a few times
Yes, this is a popular choice for us.
That is a good 13th overall pick.
Tremaine Edmunds is good too, but I don’t see teams taking him that early.
He can cover also, at his size. Play inside/ outside, whatever.
I don’t either
I’d love it if they did, peeps up here would talk shit…..till halfway through his rookie season, then it’d be THE thing.
He’s not a defensive end disguised as an OLB , he’s the real deal . LaVar type OLB.
sideline to sideline guy if you want him too.
Perfect match with Brown.
Yeah, Foster plays him inside too, though. I’ve been ANKLEPANTS for #49 for quite some time up here.
well , Foster knows more about defense than anybody on the Redskins staff for one thing .
Amen brother, lol
here’s a new name for us
13. Washington (7-9) — Tremaine Edmunds, OLB, Virginia Tech, Jr.
This could be a quarterback if Kirk Cousins signs elsewhere this offseason. Otherwise, the Butkus Award finalist — the nation’s top linebacker — anchored one of the best defenses in college football (first in shutouts and third in scoring defense). His size, speed and athleticism are off the charts. Top needs: ILB, WR, C
Never heard of him….’bout fucking time.
Ah yes… ANOTHER OLB
our 2nd from same mock
44. Washington (7-9) — James Washington, WR, Oklahoma St., Sr.
He’s all over the place . He just ends up where the ball is , over and over .
Not a new name.
no not a new name for the draft
first mock I have seen him go as high as #13 to us
Not a new name for this blog.
TEdmunds is a good pick, but 13 may be a little high for him. I’d like to grab him in 2nd
Crickets
What crickets?
That guy in California is gonna go to the SHU at Pelican Bay, get beat to death by CDCR Officers. Just a hunch. Maybe they let someone else do it.
death of a Thousand Cuts is what I’d like to see him endure.
Crucifixion was pretty rugged, so they say.
Piking too
Hey… HTTR… my real estate agent in Charleston doesn’t do business in Myrtle Beach. Willing to give your wife a shot
Here’s her email she said to use.
MindyLEvans@gmail.com
Why don’t I give you my email and have her shoot me a quick message. I’ll give her the rundown of what we’re looking for and timing plans, etc…
Sure thing my friend
Alright… gonna do this on the downlow here…
…see my screen name? I’ll give you the rest of the email address and as soon as you write it down and respond I’ll delete it
3 parts… let me know when you are ready
Ready
take my screen name and add
Then add
1975
Ok
Im ready
Got it all?
she is sending you a test email just to make sure you receive it. Just sent
I’ll let you know when I get it
or you could always just shoot her an email we put her email address up on the blog but she sent it to you
Don’t have it yet…
try sending her an email MindyLEvans at gmail.com. I told her what you had your name at hotmail.com correct?
Yes… and I wrote hers down
Sent an email… let me know if she gets it.
Interesting… got rejected
It said to try it again… give me a minute. Hotmail is a piece of shit
Lol
That one seemed to go through
Mindylevans@gmail.com
Ahhhh… one L
Yes sir
I jusy sent her an e-mail and it works fine on our end. Not
she is sending you a test email just to make sure you get it
Damn , I knew a Mindy from Myrtle Beach once .
Small world. How did you know this Mindy
everybody that went to Myrtle knew Mindy
Rofl
tell Mindy frediefritz says hello. I’m sure she will remember me! 🙂 If she doesn’t, show her my picture in my avatar.
I’m messing with you bud . I didn’t know anybody from Myrtle .
Tough bunch around here
Me with a phone:
https://i.imgur.com/dT9ZE4G.gifv
Stupid bloke
Here’s some good news! A school in Puerto Rico finally got power restored a mere112 days after a hurricane! Now that’s what I call taking care of your citizens. Well done!!
You’re talking about rebuilding an entire infrastructure , an electrical power grid basically from start . What took years to build .
Not even considering the logistics nightmare of being a huge island .
It also wasn’t a priority. On Oct. 12, our president said the United States couldn’t keep helping Puerto Rico forever, and blamed their problems on their local economy. Then he rated his response to the hurricane a 10 out of 10.
To be fair to Trump, though, when he visited Puerto Rico, his handlers only showed him a tiny part of the island that had money and was recovering well. It’s not his fault that he didn’t think about the rest of the island.
You aren’t being realistic . Work can only get done but so fast . You can commit massive money and resources , you are still rebuilding an entire electrical grid . The president, any president , doesn’t have to visually see it .
“We are also praying for the people of Puerto Rico,” Mr Trump told the crowd…
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That right there tells me he was thinking of the island of Puerto Rico.
It’s a fact that the dude is gonna get lambasted for whatever he does or says.
Obviously you can look at a certain side of things to back up whichever bias you have…
You see what you want to see
I don’t give a shit if he was thinking about them or not . They literally had to start from their power plant and start rebuilding everything , the entire grid. This is a monumental undertaking . It takes time and it’s dangerous . What he was thinking is irrelevant .
…and it’s even harder to do when the local governments are robbing the coffers blind at every turn.
Plenty of shit you can raise hell with Trump about . Puerto Rico isn’t one of them , in my opinion . Their infrastructure was shit . Shoddy and in desperate need of upgrades .
Who do you think rebuilt all that shit ? Puerto Rico ? Not . We did .
Puerto Rico has been broke for some years Their debt has gone to junk a few years back. They are a u.s. territory but they should have managed their Affairs better in my opinion. Are we really to bail out island nations that don’t manage their finances well?
easy to criticize sitting on your lazy boy in Cali
To be fair , I’m doing whatever I’m doing from my lazy boy in Va. It’s cold outside .
It’s cold in South Carolina to. I was referring to Kelly though
3 inches of snow today .
You should see the snow Here!
I bet it’s pretty .
I thought about taking some pictures of the mountains for y’all. Someday… The sun was peeking out on the way home today. Fog rolling up out of piney river over Priest. Long mountain was lit up. If you looked back west, Bluff mountain was still whited out. Pretty cool.
Apple is going to pay a $38 BILLION dollar tax bill to repatriate cash.
That’s a chunk…
Making tax breaks revenue neutral again!
“I wish I had killed more of the mother——-s,” Bracamontes told the court. He continued: “I will break out soon and I will kill more, kill whoever gets in front of me…There’s no need for a f—ing trial.”
If that’s not justification for the death penalty I don’t know what is…
…also, turns out this is in Sacramento… maybe the only city MORE liberal than San Fran… so they may just set this guy lose.
someone needs to take him out
My bet is they will
Feed that motherfucker to the pigs ala Silence of The Lambs.
Had I not seen that bitch on her cell phone about to run the red light as I had the arrow, I wouldn’t be here right now typing this. I like beef, but I don’t want to die t-bone style.
Fucking cell phone drivers…
epidemic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-l6Y8PA_neY
Needs some claw-hammer banjo, less mandolin, and Ralph Stanley on vocals. More guitar!!!!!
Thanks SCamp.
Hey, sewer rat may taste like pumpkin pie, but I’d never know ’cause I wouldn’t eat the filthy motherfucker. Pigs sleep and root in shit. That’s a filthy animal. I ain’t eat nothin’ that ain’t got sense enough to disregard its own feces.
Jules is a fucking mainline bangin’ junkie.
You know what they call a quarter-pounder in France?
Who gives a rat’s ass, Butch ’bout to waste you, pinhead.
In a SHOCKING turn of events some Jersey Shore idiot is facing 15 years in prison for tax fraud
‘Apple, the world’s most valuable company, said Wednesday that it will spend $350 billion in development and create 20,000 jobs in the United States in the next five years, outlining for the first time how it will invest in the U.S. economy following the new tax law passed late last year.’
Dilly f’n Dilly
Thanks Trump
Catch: all employees receiving; bonuses, raises, and or benefits will be required to have tattooed on their forehead, you guessed it, an apple logo, and surrender their soul to the beast.
Did you see that illegal immigrant that was just tried for killing 2 cops?
What a fucking scumbag…
No I hadn’t heard about that.
After the trial he said, “There was no need to go through this fucking circus because of course I killed those fuckers. They’re fucking dead… and I’m glad. I just wish I had killed more of those fuckers.”
Is he going up the road? I imagine.
If’n he does….. they’ll change shifts on him, he’ll end up dead in confinement.
I can’t imagine he would go free…
…but I’m not sure if this was San Fran or not
The shiteaters will get him.
I saw it , I think he had been deported twice .
Yep
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/01/17/illegal-immigrant-charged-in-killings-two-cops-wishes-had-killed-more-mother.html
Major scumbag.
Whelp… you used Fox as a source so it can’t be true
Other choice was the NY Post, so there’s that.
So the Steelers put up ~550 yds. and 42 points on one of the best D’s in the league, and fire the OC?
G.O.B. system
Smoot on the radio today said ‘They threw him off the bus’, lol.
Yeah, then backed over him.
So THAT’S why he can’t talk
Lol
I consider Mike a rational guy…….this is retarded……. conspire much?
mike5790 Steve Thomas • 2 hours ago
i think Kirk just trusts his Agent and yeah, it is more the Agent
Kirk prob gave him “commander’s intent” years ago, and this is the plan the Agent came up with, complete with reasons that he is doing what he is doing and Kirk makes sense of it that way with his quotes. definitely some ego, intent is max money.
Dude, it’s over.
Geesh both Diggs and Thielen wore out Norman. If he sticks around he has to have a HUGE 3rd year. He can’t keep up with the speed guys…
And Fuller kinda has the Slot buttoned up.
Well that sucks. 4″ of snow there, drive some miles north northwest to here, 1″ of snow.
S-s-s–s-s-s-sucks?!?
– Judge Smail
Y-y-yyeahhh, s-s-s-ssuucks da-da-donkey b-ba-balls
‘I’ll be there in a couple of hours…wherever there is.’
– walter
Well I’m Here now, so…..
Right, nevermind. The snow.
North and South Korea will field a united Olympic team.
https://thumbs.gfycat.com/ElderlyCourageousAidi-size_restricted.gif
Who dat is?
Not a baller
Oh yeahhhh….
Anyone see HTTR65 around?
He was posting earlier.
I gotta bunch of stuff going on right now but if you see him again tell him I’m looking for him wouldya?
Sure will
Thanks…
He’s in hiding for having been trolled by Buzzfeed
Who’s Buzzfeed?
The website that ran a headline that Mike Tomlin was leaving the Steelers
That he posted…..
Come on… who hasn’t posted a BS link this day in age?
Me……sober anyway 🙂
Ah…
I think 65 banished HIMSELF to the Pit of Misery. He’s taking this blogging stuff too seriously.
The Princess Bride.
WRONG
LOL that is the Pit if despair.
Dilly Dilly
Dilly Dilly.
Dilly Dilly
Alex said we had over 10,000 post in the first week.
This place sucks. Going back to the WaPo.
Good luck with that. Say hi to Mohammet, Jugdish, Sidney and Clayton for me. Grab a seat and make yourselves at home. Don’t be shy about helping yourselves to punch and cookies.
Not even Moe and Waiting Guilty are posting there anymore
LOL WG ws on here over the weekend.
Moe’s curled up in the fetal position right now with TI withdrawals.
HA! Sucking his thumb
I’ll bet you a donut you don’t…
Nope.
Broke?
whats broke?
It’s broke
What is it?
It’s it!
Exactly
Someone brought up eSports the other day. Week 1 of the Overwatch League’s inaugural season has drawn 10 million viewers so far, according to Blizzard.
https://news.unikrn.com/article/overwatch-league-week-1-viewership-drew-10-million-viewers
Me.
It was me. That is also why I was faceted by the story of the Widow Jobs getting involved in Monumental Sports, they are getting big into the E-sports scene.
There’s a good natural fit between traditional sports leagues, which understand the structure and operational aspects of running leagues, and video game companies, which provide the content.
The NFL better overwatch out.
They have nice drones, state-of-the-art.
yea my boy just invested a chip into the overwatch league by Blizzard entertainment. Growing like crazy right now…
Robert Kraft owns one of the teams
I don’t know what overwatch is, sounds like the sequel or new content from the Fringe universe.
It’s a team vs team based FPS.
AKA…the sort of game I won’t go anywhere near.
so you get to watch teams of fake soldiers fight?
I mean, prob just as interesting as watching televised paintball battles
I still like the idea of resurrecting the Fringe Universe from the watcher’s perspective, though
Not fake soldiers… there’s a cast of over the top characters with different weapons and abilities. Not meant to be a realistic war simulation at all.
I’d have the invincibility ability.
GAME
OVER
600,000 viewers globally ain’t bad, but it might be hard to target the marketing to so many audiences (culturally)… maybe not, given how internet data is certainly being collected and it would then be fairly automated for the moment, and you prob could get a few universal (to the audience) big sponsors
It’s pretty well set up. The best teams are made up of Koreans (who played in previous Korean leagues), but OWL is global, with teams in America, England, Korea and China.
Ehh, soldiers is the wrong term. More like, characters with their own unique abilities and weapons set.
One thing about Overwatch I do like are the animated shorts. They’re backstory and mostly just, kinda cool.
its crazy. Owners set up these homes in the middle of nowhere and these kids play for hours. They say you age out at about 25 yrs old as your reaction speed isn’t quite the same after that….
Oh and, Anna Torv turned up in Netflix’s Mindhunter. Looking fine.
This is weird to me. I mean, I think every old radio/tv network should have done this 5-6 years ago. But as someone who does webcasting and streaming media for a living, I’ve never heard of Youtube certifying anyone for anything. Though too be fair, the clients I work for don’t use youtube.
https://twitter.com/dcsportsbog/status/953686420689997824
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Bill Belichick confirms Malcolm Mitchell staying on IR
Hey Sand, I posted you a couple DJax baseball links about an hour ago.
Thanks man, I’ll check ’em out.
Random observation…Kendal Fuller had a hellva sophomore year. Looking forward to watching that guy ball out next season…
Yeah he did
Just make sure we keep him in the slot when we go 3 CB. It’s so hard to get a good slot CB, if a guy can play it I’d almost prefer that to a good outside guy.
It would be nice to see Moreau have a breakout sophomore season as well.
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Tom Brady is on the injury report today and meeting with the medical staff. Just cancelled his presser.
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I smell Belichick
Waiting for a Rx to be filled is a lot less boring when the pharmacy tech is that perfect balance of cute AF and smoking hot.
Asian girl. Long hair…with glasses. Oh man. The glasses.
Would the gentleman who took his pants off in the pharmacy area please leave the store
HAHA!
Man arrested in Texas for pleasuring himself in Wal-greens
Refused to pay for open container of personal lubricant
Asian girl turns…. looks at you… lowers glasses and raises eyebrows….
“I notice you don’t need any Viagra…”
Those glasses must have telephoto lenses.
for gawd sake, I don’t want to know about the glasses.
Is it still snowing there, or just here?
in my there , yes it is
Here, snowing, yes.
Not here. 71 degrees.
59 degrees in Hayward, we’re bundled up for the long haul. Hot chocolate day!
Didn’t mean to bum anyone out. Carry on. 🙂
You’re a fighter, no matter what the fuck steps up. I’ve seen that over the past two seasons.
Kick ass and take names, dc.
Dilly dilly!
still snowing . They shut down everything around here for an inch of snow . Calling for spring like temps in a few days .
Calling for summer temps in July, but what do they know.
Just saw the news D_C. Hope it turns out to be something minor. And if it is minor, I equally hope that you take the pic of the MRI and make it your avatar.
DC, hope everything is OK if you really are waiting for a brain mri.
Sigh agreed
Agreed
or fixable
me too .
Thanks, y’all. Scary shit.
..
Best wishes dc!
Hang in there Bud. Hope everything’s okay.
Steve, solid analysis and numbers, IMO. In fact your contract proposal for last year on a high level seems to be quite close to what the front office actually offered KC according to BA’s statement.
Yeah and Kirk never had any intention of signing or negotiating.
Never?
What? Never?
Never! Drafted in 2012. First thought? REDSKINS? No sir, fuck that. Not even interested in hearing the numbers when my rookie deal is up.
No! Never!
Hardly Ever!
Never, ever?
As fast as we got out of the era of a QB that can’t read the defense…we need to be as fast about getting out of the era of a QB that has high maintenance issues.
“I just think the structure of the NFL is such that one-year deals are the best option,” Cousins said. “This is not baseball. This is not basketball. These contracts are not fully guaranteed.
“Essentially, eight or nine out of 10 players are playing on one-year deals. Most of us don’t have guarantees beyond the first year, and if we do, it’s only for the second year, so it’s really a two-year deal. It may say five-, six-, seven-year deal — that’s just not the case. So if the best we can get is a two-year deal, I might as well just keep playing on one-year deals and give myself some freedom on the other side.” – Kirky poo
yeah idiot you know why? its called a HARD SALARY CAP. That’s a big deal as compared to the other major sports.
He’s overthinking it just like those NYG games…
And when coupled with the high risk of injury in the NFL, NFL teams can’t be straddled with huge guarantees and no player to show for it (because of the hard salary cap).
Squinns, do you remember the day this came out? We were over on that old, shit hole of a blog? I know you do. You were the only other person not looking into Bruce’s snake eyes.
Yes, I was assembling my arsenal of pitchforks and pitchfork accessories.
Then the Skins FO should be ready and willing to part with an idiot . Not saying much on their part for paying an idiot 44 million dollars . If you ask me that’s pretty damn smart on his part .
FO are big idiots as well but that’s a different subject. To compare this to other major sports is literally inaccurate. But yes he’s been paid well and has worked the system to his advantage.
But, let’s say this works differently. He gets drafted and becomes someone’s presumptive starter. Before 2015 he then signs an extension LTD to his rookie deal, similar to what Carr got (in 2015 sal cap terms). He’d play 3 years under that, and might be getting ANOTHER big deal right now.
So you could argue the “system” worked him and now he’s working it
Ehhh…$44M guaranteed is what matters. He pretty much played the skins FO. Amateurs in that regard.
Sincerely,
Mike McCartney, Ventriloquist Extraordinaire
“I could play for the Redskins for the next 10 years on one-year deals,” Cousins said. “It doesn’t mean I don’t want to be with the Redskins and don’t want to be with this team; I just think the structure of the NFL is such that one-year deals are the best option.” Kirky Poo
he would prove that (by proving me wrong) and sign the FT immediately if applied
Meh…. Dems Kirk’s words. There it is.
Fuck that guy and his just thinking.
They need to give him 3 fully guaranteed years.
Steve’s offer above, essentially does.
Yes, but I think it needs to be that with 3 guaranteed years, so it would be 3 years + some extra in the fourth.
Sittin’ here waiting for an MRI of my brain. Good times.
An MRI on your brain shouldn’t take long.
***rimshot***
Fertile ground, right?
That one was a hanging fastball right over the middle.
too easy
http://www.strengthsensei.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Homer.jpg
Dilly Dilly
Is everything okay?
No, not really. Tx for asking.
Arms & legs are going paralyzed for no apparent reason
Wow, that’s a bummer.
Wait what?
For reals?
That’s not good. I had an MRI of my brain done spring of 2016 after half my face went slack. Turned out to be Bells Palsy and it got almost 100% better.
I hope they figure out what the problem is. You’re going through a scary thing, but don’t let those thoughts occupy your mind. They’re really good at this stuff.
you need more bone broth
mix it with tussin
Seriously?!
Wake up, old man
https://web.archive.org/web/20081025053044/http://www.philly.com:80/philly/sports/20081022_Eagles__Jackson_had_tools_for_baseball.html
15% of your salary cap to your starting franchise QB is about right. If they think Kirk is the guy the $159M figure seems accurate. It’ll come down to gurantees at the end of the day. What Steve presented is essentially a 3 yr deal. Wonder if he’d sign it.
I’m not going above 9.99%. For any player. I’ll throw in some performance incentives. But a hard cap on the percent will be enforced across the board.
if you’re going to do that, just draft a triple option QB every 4 years
14-15% of cap is about average for franchise QB.
16% (all these based on the salary cap the year deal is signed) avg is just about max. Stafford was a tick over 16%
the cap hits are too high for my taste, need a fake sixth year on that and more signing bonus, maybe lower hits a bit first three years
but the group think here I think is more and more that an agreement isn’t going to be reached
and next year we’re rolling with Colt and Kaep, and Chris Farley
The team could add an automatically voiding 6th year, but that just pushes debt into the future for a player who might not be on the team. The savings would only be $666,666 per year. It’s a drop in the bucket. I’m not in favor of that.
666 … the number of the beast!
616 is the number of the beast.
Holla back Grand Rapids!
Not if the bonus was closer to the 50 mil Stafford got, though I’m not in favor of going quite that high. But you’d prefer those cap hits first 3 years to be a few mil lower, knowing that the further out you go the contract is more fake and the uncertainty re the salary cap is higher (though presumably higher)
I’m not signing up for a bonus of $50M and then be stuck with big dead money towards the end. Others may feel differently.
The thing is, all QB deals except for the most onerous like the Romo deal only guarantee 2 years, max, and they may have a 3rd year that becomes guaranteed on the basis of some trigger like being on the roster after a certain date. I think the Redskins would have to be idiots to guarantee a 3rd year, or, god help us, more, at signing, no matter what Kirk wants. If he insists, let him walk.
I think when I say 3rd year, and presumably here as well, is that, there’s an equivalent of 3 years of g’d money between salary and bonus AND it’s a massive burden to cut him (based on dead cap) in year 3. “defacto”
and I think that’s what Kirk wanted: he didn’t want to be “cut-able” after 1-2 years
When Kirk says three years guaranteed, he means three years guaranteed. Years. Yeeeaaaarrrrrsssss.
And that’s precisely what the Redskins shouldn’t do. Who cares what he wants? The Redskins shouldn’t allow a player to walk over them and blaze new contractual ground. If it were me, I’d do the deal I suggested, and let him walk with a clear conscience if he wants even 1 more dollar.
Right.
the thing is, you either think he’s a franchise QB or he isn’t. if you do, you pay him, even if that is 16%. if you don’t, you let someone who thinks he is pay him. the only dance remaining is to max your probability of gaining some compensation for (losing) him.
if that’s standard and that’s common knowledge then it shouldn’t be a big deal if that’s non negotiable. Its standard industry practice. If Kirk is being genuine then all he should care about are the guarantees. The structure is irrelevant, IMO.
The structure is the way the team controls the cap hit. I could design a contract with the same basic numbers that I suggest that demolishes the salary cap for the team.
correct which is why the TEAM is the primary beneficiary of contract structure. All Kirk should care about are the guarantees, triggers and if applicable incentives. Length and cap hit are irrelevant to him unless he’s just trying to boost ego or something.
I think there is big ego involved here, for both Kirk and his agent.
i think Kirk just trusts his Agent and yeah, it is more the Agent
Kirk prob gave him “commander’s intent” years ago, and this is the plan the Agent came up with, complete with reasons that he is doing what he is doing and Kirk makes sense of it that way with his quotes. definitely some ego, intent is max money.
Sand must have fell off to sleep….you know how grandpas get.
IT’S STILL SNOWING HERE!
East West Shrine Game Practice Notes:
Poona Ford/DT/Texas: Despite measuring under six feet, Ford has played big football the past two days. He fires off the snap with an explosive first step and gets a lot of push up the field with his stumpy-yet-powerful legs. Entering the season ignored by scouts, Ford now projects as a solid third-day pick. He’s getting a lot of attention from several teams, including the New York Jets.
http://draftanalyst.com/shrine-practice-tuesday-pm-report
wouldn’t surprise me as Todd Bowles believes in building the line…
I hate that we missed out on Bowles
im a Bowles fan as well. But im biased towards defensive coaches. Hoping Gruden works out in the long run tho…
I’ve been beating the drums for a defensive head coach so long that I forget how long I’ve been beating the drums for a defensive head coach.
Big Buck64 kon, for now • 13 minutes ago
Ridiculous . You are comparing a pre season game vs a guy who holds almost every franchise passing record. Insane .
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Cousins does not hold “almost every franchise passing record”. He’s up the list for more stats now, for sure, but this is an exaggeration.
OK , he holds quite a few for passing .
http://www.redskins.com/news-and-events/article-1/Kirk-Cousins-Continues-To-Break-Redskins-Records/c206d013-c34c-430f-84d1-44a87984ee8d
Sorry for exaggerating .
I’m more interested in wins than stats.
Everybody is
HE HOLDS THEM ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
-Hope
Yardage, Career- #4, Season- #1,#2,#4 Game- #2,#3
Completions, Career – #4, Seasons – #1,#2,#3 Game #1,#2
TD’s, Career-#6, Seasons-#2,#8,#4 Game (none)
Where’s he at in fumbles and INTs?
Oh, and big game bright light chokes?
the fact that he holds those numbers in just 3 years of starting is pretty astounding, really, even in this era
That was my point .
https://i.imgur.com/fh0SlXm.gif
That’s you watching Robert Davis at mini camp
Ok then,
https://media3.giphy.com/media/k6wATOQMookVy/giphy.gif
http://redskinscapitalconnection.com/cousins-on-the-brink-of-history/
This was in 2016 , but I was exaggerating .
Just got a bottle of Weller and a bottle of McHenna….40 and 35 dollars….very good for the money.
That Woodford Reserve shit is on sale (k0n falls out his seat)
When I went to Dogfish brewery in October, I didn’t know they were brewing spirits. Got their Sonic Archeology. It wasn’t bad, for a mixed spirit.
totally against mixed spirits.
-Casper
That’s spiritist.
snowing
Yep, still snowing here.
Where you at, Sand?
He’s tracking the elusive mid-day shot of whiskey
pfffft. I catch those all the time.
Invasive species like Fireball don’t count.
all that sugar will give you a much worse hangover
Maker’s Mark , that’s all I keep and it lasts me a long time
Makers is my go too for a simple coctail.
In my cabinet:
Wild Turkey 101
Wild Turkey American honey (medicine)
Woodford reserve straight Rye
Tequila Cuervo Gold
Jack
Quart of Clear
Captain Morgan
Something left in the bottom of a bottle of Jameson
Ahhh…finally refined your tastes with some Reserve eh.
Hellz, I might stop on over now.
It’s ok, nice sippin’ whiskey. Good flavors. I’m not gonna get all fluffy like you do in describing it.
You’d be welcome, k0n.
Not if it’s the same night I’m there .Not drinking with Cult of Colt president .
Ha! Y’all take that shit outdoors! – BC’s boss lady
I kid
Ik
Fine! More shine for me!
You could out drink me no problem .
I’d forego the shots for passing the bong around the room.
I wouldn’t last long there either. 25 years ago is another story
Walterfootball
13. Washington Redskins: Vita Vea, NT, Washington
44. Washington Redskins: Equanimeous St. Brown, WR, Notre Dame
Brown at 44? That’ll never happen.
Equanimeous
you just made that name up didn’t you?
Could probably drop back a number of spots pick up another draft pick and still get him
UDFA signed by Washington Redskins; Equanimeous St. Brown, WR, Notre Dame
fixed it
Yes to Vea!!
Random laugh…
https://i.imgflip.com/22onc3.jpg
Oh God….
InTouch to Drop 5,000 Words From Stormy Daniels on Sex With Trump
According to a magazine source, the transcript contains details of ‘[w]hat he’s like in bed, pillow talk, she talks about what he’s like down there…’
The interview was reportedly conducted *before* she signed the settlement with Trump.
I’ll have to take someone else’s word for it. I’m not about to let anything to do with any of that enter my brain.
I agree. I don’t want to know how most people are in bed.
Sadly my wife shares way to much of that kind of info with what here friends say about their partners.
They do do that. Don’t they?
What do you think she’s telling them about you ?
‘He’s always got beer breath and well, have you ever tried pushing rope up a hole?’
What we should do is keep that off net. Have reading rooms for it. And have those rooms be dark rooms, so when you step in to read the transcript, you’re dropped into a human sized Cuisinart. Because anyone interested in that interview is not needed on this planet.
Is this the same as the Dossier you freaked out on ?
Nope.
ok
Whole other would-be scandal
I am 100% convinced that they will not pay Kirk over 26 million per season. Kirk’s gonna want 28-30. So let’s just end this charade and use the money elsewhere to improve the other deficiencies of this 7-9 team….running game, defense. Got it? Good.
this is probably a 9-11 win team when they have more avg injury season
math-free Wed. Oh, I thought you were saying we’d go 9 and 11. LOL
Dude, it’s a post 9-11 world!
Nothing the FO does could surprise me.
Been pushing that strategy for a while….let Kirk go, use the money to get a RB, some legit defenders and let Colt run a short passing West Coast system. Improve BPA in the draft.
Colt can throw the ball deep.
yes, he’s ok not asking for 20 deep shots a game.
No he can’t . Weak arm., floats the long ball.
he can throw it. He just needs to decide early, and lob it out there
Lol, alrighty then
More accurate and more decisive than that other QB.
Just, invest in the OLine and keep him on his feet.
The only spot not secure on the o-line is LG.
That couldn’t be more wrong . Total BS .
Mhmmmm
Same thing I said
Before your foot is in it any further, go back and watch the preseason game against Cinci.
Oh ok, the preseason , right , and its my foot that needs removing , ok .
Are you saying that when the season starts, McCoy’s arm magically loses its zip and accuracy?
If you don’t watch the tape….
I’m saying Steve Spurrier was undefeated in the pre season. It’s pre season , man and you know this .
Dude
That’s got nothing to do with that the guy does not have the arm you say he does. That and, he is definitely more decisive in delivering the ball.
Which again, preseason is irrelevant here. It is though the most recent game you can go back to and see that he has velocity, accuracy and knows where he’s going with the ball.
Ridiculous . You are comparing a pre season game vs a guy who holds almost every franchise passing record. Insane .
smh
I know , mine’s about to fall off .
ut
dude wont last a game. Book that ish
Richard Hayden: All right, that’s it, fat boy, I’m gonna wail on you.
Tommy: Hey, boys and girls, it’s Papa Smurf!
Richard Hayden: You don’t want none of me; think it through.
Is there a window open I think I feel a draft
HERE LIES MIKE. HE’S DEAD.
I’VE SEEN IT A HUNDRED TIMES!
Because they know all they sold ya was a guaranteed piece of shit. That’s all it is, isn’t it? Hey, if you want me to take a dump in a box and mark it guaranteed, I will. I got spare time. But for now, for your customer’s sake, for your daughter’s sake, ya might wanna think about buying a quality product from me.
Is this the quote game?
I guess
The answer is…vicious outfield!
and a bucket of chicken!
WOOT!
“put that little box under your pillow at night, the Guarantee Fairy might come by and leave a quarter, am I right, Ted?… point is, how do you know the fairy isn’t a crazy glue sniffer? “Building model airplanes” says the little fairy; well, we’re not buying it. He sneaks into your house once, that’s all it takes. The next thing you know, there’s money missing off the dresser, and your daughter’s knocked up. I seen it a HUNDRED times…they know all they sold you was a guaranteed piece of s***. That’s all it is, isn’t it? Hey, if you want me to take a dump in a box and mark it guaranteed, I will. I got spare time. But for now, for your customer’s sake, for your daughter’s sake, might wanna think about buying a quality product, from me.”
Steelers offensive coordinator Todd Haley will not return for the 2018 season.
Haley’s contract is expiring and he won’t be getting a new contract to remain in Pittsburgh, Ian Rapoport of NFL Network reports.
That’s not a big surprise: There’s been increasing talk that Haley wasn’t seeing eye to eye with quarterback Ben Roethlisberger, and that head coach Mike Tomlin was ready to move on.
Haley has consistently coordinated a strong offense in Pittsburgh, but he’s long been viewed as someone who can be difficult to get along with, and the speculation that he wasn’t long for Pittsburgh has been ongoing for quite a while now.
Tomlin, who has faced criticism for his coaching after the Steelers were upset by the Jaguars on Sunday, now has to make one of the most important decisions of his coaching career in finding Haley’s replacement. And some other team looking for an offensive coordinator will have to make a decision about whether Haley is a good fit.
Scapegoat, railroaded, I’ve seen it before.
a HUNDRED times!
I didn’t want to copy you.
you mean, Chris Farley?
Yeah, you.
WOOHOOOHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Hand it off to Bell, then throw it to Brown. There, I done coordinated it for them.
P.S. sprinkle in some JooJoo
I like that cat McDonald too, the TE.
I wish we had one of those…..(scuffling gravel bashfully, one solitary tear drips)
Different_Cat Lbsand • 5 minutes ago
She’s cute for a race car driver, but way less cute than Olivia Munn.
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Yeah but cute wears off and than personality is the big factor.
Sure … after about 10 yrs. 😉
Not for guys like Rogers who can have all the cute and hot girls they want.
she’s very like-able in this long-form interview; but she might be quite “distant” and “corporate” busy for a lot of dudes
Yeah but so is Rogers.
she’s the type of girl who is very decisive:
“Aaron, I’m ready, we’re getting married”
“Uh, wait, was that a quest…”
*bite-lipped glare*
“OK. yeah. that sounds great!”
Get in, I’m driving.
How fast are you going!!!??!
It’s not even 200, relax.
Maybe she’s a freak .She likes to go fast
She’s a Cult of Personality.
test test.
Fail. I guess.
Yep
Nice
I
Bet
Those Work
“I bought a Lamborghini awhile back, but it didn’t have a cupholder, and I thought, well this is ‘stupid’ so I bought the Mercedes (a AMG MB SUV)”
-Danica Patrick
SHE IS a cup holder.
more like: her man holds her cup
She’s cute for a race car driver, but way less cute than Olivia Munn.
the difference being I’d not hesitate for a second to give Danica the key to my Mazda
size please
Large C
my mazerati does 185.
You lost your license, now you don’t drive.
happens to the best of us….
That’s not how it goes…..
of course now, i have a limo – ride in the back.
You lock the doors, in case you’re attacked
Hope’s ears on on FIRE right now.
So, it’s settled?
We go into next season with Kaep, Colt, and a rookie we trade up for in the 1st round.
Typical Manager fuck up.
be careful with your bullet points!
Ride or die
This would be a surprise. Kirk walks, and the Redskins sign Kaepernick to a 1-year deal, while drafting Mayfield/Jackson/Allen
No way we draft 3 QBs!
Is that a challenge?
-Bruce
Yes! Yes it is….fire yourself!
Sorry, I meant pick one of those
Sorry, sarcasm font doesn’t work on this crappy forum.
J/K!!
El Capitan will cast thee into the pit of misery, Dilly Dilly!
Hold my Coors – Bruce
the Banquet Beer!!!
Rocky mountain, baby – Elway
What a haul! (and they all bust.)
Read this…….or not. I don’t give a fuck. Kirk received a C grade.
https://brickwallblitz.com/2017/03/26/the-2016-17-deep-ball-project-13/
Kirk is the greatest.
Yep, at everything…all the time.
He get’s up in the morning and pisses excellence.
Down his leg…
…but misses the wide open commode.
Everyone wants Case Keenum, who scored a C+, so….
Ive seen that before . It’s probably also worth noting he was tied with Matt Ryan for most completions over 20 yards , 1st in the nfl.
In ’16?
I thought so .I thought it was in that article .
DJax ain’t here.
https://www.thefantasyfootballers.com/articles/fantasy-football-case-kirk-cousins/
I read that here which had the link to the Deep Ball site
So it’s all bullshit?
No . I don’t think so . It’s pretty much backing up your comments
I searched “best deep ball throwers” on Google and found a lot of sites that cherry picked maybe 5 or 6 to compare. This guy, whoever he is, did the entire league. That seems like a fair thing. Look at everyone. My own opinions have been formed by me, watching Kirk throw. I’m not a stat guy.
Right . I think he’s about average in that category . Could be better , and he could be a lot worse .
I think he’s an A+ on mid-range “line drives”, like hitting Crowder in the end zone, posts, shit like that. I don’t know what his stats are. He throws a pretty ball when he’s on, that’s a fact. No on fades, though.
Terrible on fades . He just can’t do that . Iffy on anything in the red zone , but I think part of that is no threat from the run game. Nobody respects it .
Yeah, I agree. Kirk’s best ball, to me, is the 15 yard driver. One he can put some fire on, but not way out there where he needs arc.
He throws dimes to Reed when he’s healthy , and he had Garcon on speed dial , but that was then.
Garcon had the ability to either be a bully, or a technical guy. Always knew where his feet were.
Loved that guy . Knew he wouldn’t be easily replaced , as I’m sure most people did .
Hahahaha! Yeah. That DJ Moore kid is interesting. The Terp.
I still have hope for Rob Davis to find the field. He’s not a punk. Big, fast, chippy, blocks, has hands. It’s a mystery to me how far along he is.
Yeah, in 2017 I believe Brees led the NFL in 20+ while setting an NFL record for comp%?
Any analysis that grades Brees ‘C’ and Carr ‘A’ is, um, well…
dunt cair, kurt suks bad and you no it.
-Flounder
I said read it, or not. I’m not using it as a platform.
My opinions on Kirk are from watching my team play.
I know. And my comment was directed at the analysis.
NOTE: it must be for 2016.
Just something I found with all the QBs compiled into one report.
naptime…school snow day…
See ya’ll later.
Happy Z’s…
Ship Colt to the Browns for the #4 pick. Package with our 13th pick, move up to #1 and draft Rosen.
Boom, problem solved.
He’s comin’ home!
– LeBron
sounds reasonable to me
Gruden took what many thought was a “career backup” in Kirk Cousins and turned him into what will be the highest paid player in NFL history…
many peeps up here want to fire Gruden? Now you say he’s a qb whisperer?
I NEVER called for his firing.
not you Rick, but many up here
Correct, Rick has always been a Gruden schlobberer.
Kirk Cousins never though he was a backup and deep down somewhere, resents the fact the Skins took him to be the presumed backup of the presumptive StarterGIII
If your D is good enough and have a run game, you can win with Dilfer, McMahon, Flacco, Bortles…
McCoy…???
Shoot, Cameron Diaz.
Fine. Add an elite RB, a few pieces on defense and one more legit o-line starter and then we might be getting somewhere.
to me, that’s why trying to get TJ Yeldon makes so much sense to me, though I know he ain’t your favorite. Jax might go for a medium deal to get him, with them having him under contract only 1 more year. and I don’t know him that well, but an analysis I heard about him is that he doesn’t dance or whatever, he is a decisive runner who takes the ball and hits the hole; like AlMo but with more athleticism.
13: R1P13
RB DERRIUS GUICE
LSU
50: R2P18
DL TAVEN BRYAN
FLORIDA
78: R3P14
QB LAMAR JACKSON
LOUISVILLE
81: R3P17
WR JAMES WASHINGTON
OKLAHOMA STATE
115: R4P13
S GODWIN IGWEBUIKE
NORTHWESTERN
151: R5P12
LB JACK CICHY
WISCONSIN
192: R6P14
CB HOLTON HILL
TEXAS
232: R7P13
C BRIAN ALLEN
MICHIGAN STATE
242: R7P23
LB GARRET DOOLEY
WISCONSIN
good lawdy at least have the decency to edit for format!
Meanwhile, back in reality ….
26 TD’s 23 INT’s
60 % completion rate
But does he cry after those INT’s?
he’s usually concussed so can’t cry
Almost all of that is down to his rookie and second seasons playing for a godawful Browns team.
But it’s a stat. You of all people know a stat cannot be argued. It is the end-all be-all of what a person’s take is on a given player.
Context is key. For example, in his only extended playing time for the Redskins, he completed 71.1% of his passes, had 4 TDs and 3 INTs, and compiled a QB rating of 96.4. For reference, KC’s QB rating in 2017 was 93.9.
Sorry wrong QB.
Fascinating how some of y’all have convinced yourselves that Colt is the answer. SMGDH!
I’ve always thought we could win with Colt, if he can stay healthy.
If he were the answer, he’d have been starting already.
He would be a stopgap who could keep us competitive — not “the answer.”
Kirk is the answer.
stoopid f-ing idots dont no what the f there talkngi about makes no cents no one nose shit
– Flunder
what the fuck choice do we have?! kirk, sadly, is not going to be our qb next season.
You have the choice to remain sane and rational. Stating Colt is the answer is anything but. He’s a back-up for a damn good reason.
kirk is not re-signing here. so….. as of right now, i’d consider colt our starting qb. hopefully, we can fix that problem, but, as of now, he’s our guy.
NPI…Did you look at those clips of Colt below? Yeah, there are a couple of underthrows, but look at the two plays he makes with his legs and arm against the Colts and Jets….no way Kirk makes those plays. What Colt lacks in arm talent, he makes up with his legs.
The only fear I have with Colt is whether he can stand up to a whole season of contact.
Yeah he uses his legs well and goes off script also but injury is always a concern. Really though all QB’s are one hit away from being out for the season.
Sure, anyone can get hurt, but Colt has a history of concussions and other problems. One thing about Cousins is that he seems to be indestructible.
Running Back makes it work for awhile.
Rick, I hope I am being clear when I say I love Colt; even met him briefly at the bar at Clyde’s. Everyone likes the guy. I think he is a perfect backup. I trust him to come into a game and play well in spot situations. I do NOT have faith in him as a starting QB and feel like even drafting a younger player or bringing in a quality vet gives us a better chance to win.
What he did against Dallas a few years ago was amazing and borderline legendary. But that was as much as we were ever going to get outta Colt and he won’t ever be that good again (apologies to Walken).
Oh no…I agree…I don’t think he’s the “answer”. You still need a young draftee.
XM’s NFL channel interviewed a bunch of NFL personnel guys and asked them what the most important qualities were in QBs they were scouting. Almost to a man arm strength was 3rd or 4th on the list, after intelligence, processing speed, work habits, etc.
Yeah Colt can throw deep as well as Kirk the question is how does he match up in other areas.
No he can’t .
Numero Uno IMO: accuracy.
Yes
No one is saying no.
Yes to accuracy being number 1
Yes, yes to #1
Yes, in fact I think most of them listed either accuracy or processing speed No. 1.
One thing I’ve heard a lot is that, if a QB isn’t accurate in college, chances are slim and none that he will become MORE accurate in the pros.
If, and this is a BIG ass “IF”…but if they do roll with Colt, they’d better sign him to an extension QUICK if he starts playing well, because his deal is up after next season and they’re RIGHT back where they started.
if they let Kirk walk, Colt isn’t going to be the longer term plan.
-The Marketing Department
Barkley, Colt, young pup.
That’ll never happen – Jay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaeK2ggATv4
Set to horrible music…but Colt was dealin’ in these clips. His deep ball looked just like Kirk’s to me.
So you posted a highlight reel. No crap throws at all. No picks. No noodle-armed ducks.
C’mon bruh.
Colt does not have the same arm or talent that Cousins has right now else he’d be playing somewhere instead of backing up a dude who never gets hurt.
Is there any other team who would start him?
He is showing that his arm strength is not an issue.
What year were those plays? Did you bother to even pay attention? Some were in pre-season? Are you kidding me?
How does preseason matter on how far he can throw the ball?
It doesn’t.
Like you say, “hoo the f cares about that”. He does not have the arm to make the throws Kirk can make downfield; he just doesn’t. Not consistently. Great, he can chuck it 50 yards, BFD. He just is not what I consider a bona fide NFL starting QB at this stage in his career.
People get pigeonholed with things said by the media and then everyone just believes it instead of looking at the facts.
This is better:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BzVjDXIOYQ
Better resolution, plus more clips.
Definitely throws a better fade than Cousins.
He has a lot more touch than Cousins has.
No he doesn’t .
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Darrell Bevell Could Be In The Mix For Coaching Job With Bears http://bit.ly/2DIROxs
If he was ever hired here, the photo of him with Snyder would be captioned, “Bevell and Butthead.”
raise your hand if you wish we got 5″ of snow instead of .5″.
No thanks than I would have had to shovel.
Or own a 4wheel drive.
yes
the 0.5″ was pretty. 5″ is prettier.
would have been nice to seep in that moisture over a few days, though it’s still too early for spring horticulture/lawncare
plus, my home office is better than my office cube
but yeah, like Flounder, would have had to get my gym workout on the driveway instead of the gym
Yeah man as i get older that shoveling has become a bitch.
the area “needs” rain, i’m told…. we will get rain from rain storms. snow storms are remarkably devoid of moisture. a 5″ snow storm is just 0.5″ of rain.
yes, but snow is more valuable moisture
you get 0.5″ of rain in an hour, a lot of that runs off, you get 5″ of snow that melts over two days, and very little of that (that is not on impervious surfaces) runs off. it soaks in.
mike,
i understand that. still 0.5″ of rain will almost certainly soak in. an 1″ or 2″ might have trouble, but, we were not blessed with 10 or 20″ of snow.
hydraulic conductivity and the hysteresis thing… it means that snow is significantly better; it’s the same thing like, in a drought, if you know rain is coming, you should dampen the yard before the rain gets there. surge irrigation strategies, etc.
Still snowing here.
where!?!?!
you can’t make weather reports w/o saying where you are.
Here, is Here not a place? It feels like a place. I am not high. 🙂
You can’t remember where, though you’ve been told. Maybe you’re smoking some Kind today, drawing up a nice house?
zig,
i read a lot of comments. sorry, and don’t be insulted, if i don’t remember where you live. nonetheless, that is crucial info when reporting weather.
I’m terribly insulted. I’m contemplating running outside and drowning myself in a snow bank. 🙂
lol
Colt can’t throw a deep ball:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDC-5OQZhik
He had several very long throws to DJax, too. Where his arm strength is more of an issue is on deep outs when the ball may have to be thrown on a line. At the end of the day, though, I don’t think his arm is a problem. He’s smart enough to know his limitations.
Yeah me either.
I don’t see him as the liability that many try to make of him. He knows the system, can throw deep if the opportunity presents itself. IMO, he throws the best fade pass.
And he doesn’t play afraid.
Big Buck64 • an hour ago
If your Garcon as well . Each had over a 1000 yards , and Reed as well. Not buying he’s inaccurate.
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I’m not saying he’s inaccurate as a whole. When Kirk is on, he throws a beautiful mid-range ball and can really drive in the short quick shit. I’m saying he gets wild on the deep shots. Watch his release on deep throws compared to guys that are known for it. I think it’s hurried, like he tries to throw too hard. That effects accuracy. The ball will drift one way or the other and many times the range will be off. Garcon and Reed’s bread and butter were all mid-range completions. When someone specifically says they think Kirk is inaccurate on the deep throws, that’s what they mean, not that Kirk is inaccurate. Whatever.
He’s inaccurate on deep balls nobody said he was inaccurate on medium to short passes.
Thanks for the update…..
all QBs are relatively inaccurate on deep throws, that’s why back in the day when the offenses were run + play action bomb, the great comp % was like anything over 55%, and now, it’s 70% when many of the passes are in the stead of runs (short). clearly, though some are better than others. but also, a LOT of good WRs make their QBs look a lot better. WRs who go after the ball like it’s theirs and no other, or have good to great to elite ball tracking? that makes a difference most on the long ball.
Brady is very accurate on deep balls.
someone will post a link or cut n paste the advanced metrics I’m sure
Poor baby
Sure, that’s why some QBs hit ‘um in stride on the regular.
Colt McCoy will not be “handed” the starting job here.
You’re right. He will have to earn it.
Unless he is competing with Matt Jones
Don’t sleep on a triumphant return by Matt Jones!
– e_trod
I think fans overestimate the ILB talent on this team. Mason Foster, Zach Vigil, Martrelle Spaight…all upgradable.
Of course they are.
What position(s) on the Skins isn’t? LT, RG, and ummmmmmm…
I guess Compton is gonna be straight outta the Redskins organization.
I think you’re exactly right.
More from Rotoworld:
ESPN’s Adam Schefter reports Steelers OL coach Mike Munchak has turned down the Cardinals’ request for a second interview for their head-coaching vacancy.
It’s a sign the Cardinals have either already settled on a head coach or Munchak may be getting the OC job in Pittsburgh if current OC Todd Haley isn’t brought back. Perhaps even Munchak is simply just happy with his OL gig in Pittsburgh and doesn’t see the Cardinals job as one worth leaving for considering they have no quarterback. Munchak is going to get a second chance at some point. Schefter adds that Patriots LBs coach Brian Flores is back in play for Arizona.
From Rotoworld:
Seahawks hired ex-Colts QBs coach Brian Schottenheimer as offensive coordinator.
Yeah they also hired Ken Norton as DC.
Didn’t he start off as quality control or cheif-playsheet-laminator or something like that with the Skins?
Flounder • 7 minutes ago
Arizona’s coaching search has been very quiet haven’t heard much of anyone tied to them.
___
Munchak from Pitt declined a 2nd interview, and Wilkes from Carolina is still in the running.
Nice
But yeah that’s really it so yes pretty quiet.
is colt our next qb? trying to wrap my head around that.
Here is my highly technical and well-reasoned response to your question:
No.
Wait an see
Might be. He’s way cheaper than Kirk.
i’m not entirely opposed to the idea. it’s a big step down from kirk in terms of ability, and salary… just thinking about it.
McDaniels to Colts
Patricia to Lions
Shurmur to Giants
Re-tread
Has a great beard
JAG
Jim Schwartz (Defensive coordinator, Eagles) – Carson Wentz is an MVP candidate, but Philadelphia wouldn’t rank among the league’s elite without Schwartz’s work on the Eagles’ defense, now third-best in the league. The former Lions coach is regarded as the top defensive option among candidates with head coaching experience.
Schwartz has not been rumored to any team.
You just said Arizona’s search has been quiet. Maybe they’re waiting for the Eagles to lose.
Why would they wait you can interview guys before the team loses all the guys above are still in the playoffs and have already interviewed.
An organization may not allow interviews because it could be a distraction.
flounder,
what’s your job? it’s really awesome how someone for whom english is a second language has managed to work himself into middle-class wealth.
I run an Enterprise operation center for the federal government and when I have to type things related to business I don’t do it so fast and I actually check it before sending. I could care less here so I don’t bother.
Enterprise…can you hook me with Corvette rental for my trip to New Orleans in July?
Not that type of Enterprise.
Circling Uranus looking for Klingons?
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Apparently he also wasn’t on EPSN’s Top 50 FAs list that they released this morning.
And we have a winner
Arizona’s coaching search has been very quiet haven’t heard much of anyone tied to them.
Maybe because the coaches they’re looking at are still playing.
Yeah so are the rest of them who have already been tied to teams.
Patricia
McDaniels
Shurmur
Another big crypto selloff day.
McCarron was 2-1 and 66% completion rate end of ’15. Led Cincy to clutch 4th qtr drive to take lead on Pitt…to have Cincy D and Burfict penalties blow the game. He also has a ring from Bama. Not a bad prospect for a bridge or more…
Cleveland could go after him again
They pick high…twice
They could take a FA QB and draft talent around him.
So should Washington
And draft a Qb…
If Cleveland is interested in him, I’m not.
If I remember correctly Brown was being low balled by everyone last off season and not really wanted. We stepped in and gave him the best offer.
I think the NFL views him as more of a 2-down LB.
Yeah but were low balling him.
Best Skins had in years all I know.
Chris Thompson was the MVP of this offense…hands down.
He’s in the discussion.
Bridgewater would be intriguing, however, that knee and being out of football almost 2 years is something to be concerned about.
I’m thinking the Vikings keep him and let keenum and Bradford walk
I’d be shocked if they do that.
I think that to Etrod not sure why I just have the feeling that is Zimmer’s plan.
He is the youngest of the three
Zimmer has also been critical of him all year.
Not keenum. I bet Bradford is gone of the three.
2 of the 3 will be gone.
Shurmer may try to take keenum wherever he ends up
Schurmur looks like he is going to the Giants so that wont happen.
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This is interesting… Steve Job’s widow now owns 20% of the Wizapitals Empire.
Their unis will soon be black mock turtlenecks
a soft light glowing in the center of the chest.
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Can i get a follow. Been a fan for 38 years, you remind of wilber marshall
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People “whoring” themselves for “follows” on Twitter is pathetic.
I don’t like people asking for follows either – but I think asking and whoring are two different things.
This is whoring
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I get a little tired about all of the hand-wringing about Kirk. From a personal perspective, I side with Jay Gruden…”Kirk has flashed brilliance, at times”
I would set him down, show him the big picture, let him know that he’s valued and where he fits in. Then present an attractive, incentive-laden contract on the table, with a decent signing bonus and guaranteed money. I would also put a time limit on the offer, stating that the team will not let this drag out to the last minute.
In the meantime, have your best contingency plan in place, and be prepared to act on it.
Bottom line, all of this is out of our control, so I’m not going to obsess over one position.
well said
Yes
Here is a name nobody mentions
A.J. McCarron (RFA), QB, Bengals. Age: 27.
A.J. McCarron was nearly traded to the Browns before the front office screwed up the paperwork. Perhaps Cleveland will make another attempt to acquire him this offseason. If so, the Browns are getting a quarterback who can probably be an average starter in the NFL. In extensive action in 2015, McCarron threw six touchdowns to two interceptions, with a 66.4 completion percentage and a 7.2 YPA.
McCarron is a JAG.
Still don’t have enough info.
^^^ said by just about everyone about Case Keenum
Yep
We are pretty likely going to end up with a JAG at QB the next year or two
Good bridge or more perhaps.
He’s probably another Kirk Cousins
As Steve said below…
Flounder MJ45 • 2 minutes ago
Due a quick google search and see the list.
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That list of QB’s is some “due-due”
Basically in terms of starters, odds are that you will have 2 of the 3 guys from the Vikings available, after that not much.
Alex Smith
Not a FA but could be cut.
Not a FA, would be a trade.
Or he could be cut.
He will be released
Drew Brees
He’s not going anywhere.
Brees will be with the Saints.
Trade up. Go get him. Or Sign and trade
Trade up
Punch yourself in the face for even suggesting that
Bruce Allen paid Trent Williams, Ryan Kerrigan, Chris Thompson,Jordan Reed, Morgan Moses and Quentin Dunbar. You all’s hatred of Bruce Allen has you confused about him “lowballing” players.
And we have zero idea what ZBROWN was talking about
Everyone needs to relax
We low balled him for sure you weren’t able to read his mind?
Not even close
Zach could’ve been talking about his car salesman trying to screw him, for all we know.
I think there’s a very good chance that ZB is in fact talking about an offer from Skins. Remember, last year he priced himself out of the LTD market, had to take our 1-yr offer. Charlie Casserly has said that he would try to resign him, but not break the bank. I like the guy, and hope we can get a deal done with him.
Apparently he also wasn’t on EPSN’s Top 50 FAs list that they released this morning.
Oh. Well, maybe that’s what he’s referring to. I didn’t see that list.
Maybe!
Yeah it’s ridiculous the comments we get that are so far off base about BA.
He looks like a gin-drinker. I don’t trust him.
Well that’s a personal thing.
Shifty eyes
No, the word is he’s a Coors Light drinker.
And thus a Camaro driver
I could see this guy bragging at some blonde over a martini while making sure to check his watch repeatedly in case she hasn’t noticed it yet.
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22 free agents…so…
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Go look at the list, most those FA’s are garbage and can walk.
Yep. Responding to Flounder FO comment
Brown is a keeper. Keep him. Pay him
The problem with twitter is people use it during emotional drama
For example Mason Foster and what happened with him and how he blew that way way out of proportion to what reality was
I put zero stock in twitter posts
Besides Kirk and Colt, who are the free agent QBs out there worth kicking the tires on?
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Due a quick google search and see the list.
I could “due” that, but was looking at the opinions of this group.
It’s a big list.
McCarron
Bridgewater
I dunno Steve… Kirk said himself they werent counter offering FOs offer last year…when a healthy contract had a chance to be negotiated. Wherever God leads…Cant put 100% on the FO here. Kirk will sign w Washington as a last option imo. He and his agent did not play this game to come out on a team friendly deal now. Seems to me the Skins are outta market. But I’m not a cap guy either.
Wont hurt to shop for a closer regardless.
First of all, I specifically stated that the intent of the column was not to dissect the prior motives of either Cousins or the Redskins. It’s about the here and now.
But to your point, I couldn’t care less what Cousins says about that now, 6 months later. The way to negotiate with someone like that is to drive the Brinks truck up to that person’s house – make a solid market value offer and make them say no to the money that’s right in front of them for the taking. The Redskins didn’t bother trying to do that.
Gotcha. I just dont think he is the Brinks type guy. Just me man.
We may never know.
We will know . Kirk will keep playing somewhere. Here or there
I’d love to have Zach Brown back….but I wouldn’t overpay.
They probably wont. Rotate on thru. Find a Cowboy.
Well we low balled him like we do everyone else not sure how we have any players on the team.
22 free agents…so…
If Colt is the intended starter next year, who’s going to start the other 12 games (assuming we’re not making the playoffs)?
I don’t think Colt will be “crowned” the start. I think there will be a legit competition.
T.J. Yates
Godpleasesaveusfromthecomingdisaster
I don’t like seeing Rosen to the Giants like I have been seeing on a lot of mocks. He’s the best QB in the draft.
They have the two pick, if you want you franchise guy there isn’t a better time to draft him.
I know. It sucks though
Skins trading into the first pick.
Ok!
Cleveland will draft there guy also which is why the Kirk to Cleveland stuff is far fetched.
Because they do so well drafting QB’s.
Got it.
They have a new guy running the team he is going to want to change all that with a top QB draft.
They tried to draft their guy last year, and about 52 other times before that. I have no faith whatsoever in Cleveland’s ability to do the right thing.
Yeah well they have a new FO’s so whatever they did last year is irrelevant.
A fair point….but it’s still the factory of sadness.
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I guess the respect level is still low…
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Uh oh!
Yeah, that doesn’t sound good…. Low balled him.
Do we know the context of the tweet?
No….but it sounds like the Redskins low-balled him. But it’s still early. We’ll see.
This could be about literally anything.
Yeah
you’re right
Damn you guys jump to the worst conclusions pretty quick.
Exactly. The guy who has trying to get paid like an elite lb fur 2 years could be taking about anything
Bruce Allen loves to lowball guys. If you go back and look at the team in tampa, that’s what he did have that team fall apart.
This is true
That’s called negotiating that his job to look out for the team not the player, all NFL teams do that.
Great piece from Steve, but I disagree that the Redskins have “kicked this can down the road”. Kirk Cousins was culpable as well. He wanted free agency. Always did…He wouldn’t sign a deal unless we overpaid. My other issue is in 2021, you’re right up against that 18% of the cap and that’s right around the time when many of our good draft picks are coming up on their 2nd deals.
Yes he is very culpable because he never had any intention of negotiating he wants to hit FA’s so he can be the Prom Queen, not sure why people don’t see that.
The Redskins caused this, IMO. They could have done many, many things, to stop them from being in a situation where they need to offer this player $159M.
How? When the player didn’t want to sign a deal. The only thing they probably could/should have done is deal him.
As I’ve said many times, both here, in print, and on the air, Cousins didn’t want to sign the absolute crap-pile of a contract offer the Redskins made them. If the Redskins had made a market value 5 year deal and Cousins had said no, then I’d agree with you. It’s really easy for Cousins to feed this nonsense to a mostly adoring crowd the other week, now, over 6 months after the fact. I’m not buying it at all.
Not unhappy about the prospective exodus of Breeland, but I thought he filled in pretty darn well at FS.
I’m still mad about it.
Good writeup, Steve, thanks for putting this together.
I think we’re gonna be on the QB hunt for the next 2 years at least.
are we really talking about colt as next year’s qb???
it kinda makes sense. he is a smart guy who absolutely want to prove himself. i suppose he could be a “placeholder”. i’m working on accepting this idea.
Not much else to talk about until we see what happens with Kirk and FA’s. Good thing is things will happen quickly once we get into late February and early March.
Going with Colt McCoy is like eating yogurt to deal with an upset stomach. Yes it probably will help a little, but not enough.
what other foods do we have to eat? cousins is gone. gone, gone, gone.
Their will be multiple FA QB’s and their are multiple QB’s we can draft. Cousins is not the only QB available.
I think we have to be prepared for this possibility. As I’ve said before, I don’t see how we can use either tag and remain competitive. So we need to negotiate. We should have a contract offer on the table. If KC does not want to sign, or if he gets a better offer, we move on. We can find an alternative, or draft a replacement and use Colt as interim.
I’m gonna change it up today, try listening to 980 rather than 106.7 like I normally do.
980 is pretty good during the day.
So is 106.7
It’s funny, the real good sports shows are in mid days not morning or afternoon drive.
Good idea today, Alex.
Truth be told DJax did OK in Tampa, but Winston didn’t go deep to him a lot. He had more deep TD catches here in 2016 then he did in Tampa in 2017.
D Jax did nothing as far as I could tell and was a waste of money.
Spot on about DJax running down Kirk’s off target deep shots, Mr. Steve.
To use LbSand’s words, “he’d be part of a “vicious” outfield”. Please adjust your Kirk goggles to compensate for this.
I don’t buy that at all.
Yeah, it’s all good.
All you have to gauge that by are stats . Winston must not be able to hit the broad side of a barn then .
Nope, I just watched the games. Watched DJax switch shoulders, hit the brakes, kick it into overdrive, ect.
^ fishy’s words. But D-jax would be an awesome CF.
My bad. He was, before football.
O yeah? Didn’t know that.
Yup. His secret superpower.
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Uh oh….maybe he’s the Tomlin replacement.
Bingo!
Tomlin isn’t going anyplace .
Deep shots didn’t happen this year because we didn’t have a deep threat to throw to
Yes, Doctson is not a traditional Deep threat guy. But he can get past a DB from time to time, and has the jumping ability to try and get it. There were a few deep balls to him where he had the DB beat but Kirk under threw it.
Indeed. He’s also faster than a lot of folks – and DB’s – think.
D Jax is not the only guy who can run a deep route, Kirk is not very accurate going deep.
We complain about KC not going down field often enough. Colt will go downfield less often than KC does.
Colt was never known for his arm strength. Now he’s 31.
Yes, when I watched Colt in pre-season, his arm is not impressive on deep balls at all, he can zip balls 10-15 yards easy enough. But anything with air under it needs LOTS of air.
Advantage : Opposing Defensive Coordinators
Nobody’s saying that McCoy is a long-term answer, but as a placeholder while waiting on a rookie to get ready? They could do worse.
If Colt McCoy is starting for the Washington Redskins in week 1…we will lose in week 1.
We would have a better chance of winning in week 1 not yet knowing who our QB will be starting that game right now.
Peeps complain about EVERY player that’s not 1st team all pro.
Funny thing is Kirk went down field as much as any QB in the NFL. It was an issue of not connecting with Poo Poo Pryor and the Doctor, who’s still on his internship.
Kirk misses way too many deep balls. It isn’t his strength.
Feel like with Jackson in 16, he was best going deep over the middle (most guys are) but this season the deep shots were mostly on the sidelines.
He missed going to DJax quite a bit; DJax was just experienced enough to go get the ball.
So he threw a catchable ball then .
If you’re DJax
If your Garcon as well . Each had over a 1000 yards , and Reed as well. Not buying he’s inaccurate
He’s not very good on the deep balls; sorry.
Don’t be sorry, I disagree with you .
Inaccurate is a tricky thing, he has hot zones in his passing chart and cold zones.
He is very accurate on screens, passes to the left side, short to mid range. Down the middle of the field short to mid range, and short to the right. But deep stuff and even some mid level stuff on his right is so/so.
Sure, but it cost the Redskins a number of TDs. #1 thing you hear from all WR coaches is “go get the ball”. A well placed deep ball would’ve allowed DJax to run away from the DBs at a very high rate.
Pro Football Talk’s Mike Florio reports a group of the Steelers’ limited partners want coach Mike Tomlin fired.
Tomlin has never had a losing season in 11 years with the Steelers while winning at least 10 games eight times, but that record has not prevented his name from popping up in rumors the last couple years. To be fair to the rabble-rousers, the Steelers have not been to the Super Bowl since 2010 and have made the Championship Game just once over that run, arguably an underachievement given the talent on the roster. Still, it remains unlikely Tomlin is shown the door, but perhaps the discontent will lead to changes to his staff. For what it is worth, Tomlin did not throw his support behind OC Todd Haley when given the chance during his season-ending press conference.
Letting perfection become the enemy of the very good.
From Rotoworld:
Impending free agent Drew Brees says he has no plans to test the market, and that he hopes to re-sign with the Saints before the start of the new league year.
“I’m not in the mood to make anything secretive,” Brees said. “It’s the same way I felt two days ago. It’s the same way I felt 12 years ago. That is that I’ll be here as long as they’ll have me, hopefully.” Brees, who turned 39 on Monday, cannot be franchise tagged, giving him a little leverage even if he insists he doesn’t want to test the market. Brees’ main goal could be some guaranteed money for 2019
What an idiot!
– Kirk
I like Brees.
I am sure it helps to have had a rock solid relationship with the coach, beloved by everyone in his city, and have some jewels on a finger.
He is also doing the organization a service by tipping his hand like this in that teammates and prospective FA’s will feel confident when finalizing deals with the Saints knowing their HOF QB isn’t going anywhere.
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a disappointing 1/2″ of snow in the sleepy hollow part of falls church. not TOO disapointing – i knew what happened was likely to happen. still, was hoping for a “boom” 4″ or so.
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Reports are that your wife had similar hopes in the past….
We have 3″ and still falling. I’ll have to build a snowman for Walter.
A small one.
Lol
I’ma do Trump devouring a double cheeseburger.
(insert long winded vegan retort by NoVaMike)
24-year old Charlie Weis, Jr. will become the Florida Atlantic offensive coordinator for Lane Kiffin.
Your next Sean McVay?
Or your next Lane Kiffin
Weiss always acts like the brilliant guy in the room. But if that fat fuck is so brilliant, why can’t he push himself away from the table once in a while?
Here is something about Tomlin.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/01/16/source-some-steelers-limited-partners-want-a-coaching-change/
How to think like the redskins.
Think like a man than take away reason and accountability.
The Skins aren’t that close. Let Kirk walk, keep building through the draft.
Problem is any team that wants Kirk isn’t close either.
So what’s the problem for the skins?
Nothing.
Agreed. No problem…if they just walk away.
Arozona? Jacksonville? The Ginas?
Those teams could all compete with Kirk as their QB.
Gins no chance they still have Eli under contract, Jacksonville will keep Bortles he just helped them get to the AFC championship game. Arizona maybe but they have a lot of issues.
I think even if the Jags win it all, Bortles gets Dilfer’d. The Giants have a new GM and HC coming in and teams move on from dudes under contract all the time. Arizona will get back an elite RB next year and they have a nice defense.
All could well be in play so yes, Cousins could find a team that can compete with him in year one. Don’t forget the Jets either.
Denver says hello.
Denver
Bingo.
-sherm
Denver is a QB, and a HC away.
listening to Danica on JR podcast; translating from womanese to man speak:
She’s ready to settle down and have a baby.
AR12 isn’t getting any younger so maybe it works out.
when I say settle down, that’s relative
she’s got like 7 irons in the fire, and when she quits racing in May, she’ll still have six
7 iron is my best club….
I keep a 7 wood in the bag. “Heaven Wood”. I hit that motherfucker dead straight from just about anywhere.
Your starting QB for 2018 is Colt McCoy….and hopefully we draft a replacement who can play in 2019 or 2020.
There is almost no chance that will happen.
Really?
Really dog.
I think that makes the most sense. Ready to move the F on.
I would love to see the team get something like a pick if he leaves but I see our reward as being able to bring in a young QB while adding legitimate talent through the draft as well as a FA or 2 or 3 who, you know…start.
I just want a resolution.
Gruden likes him and Colt can effectively run most of this offense. I think this has a reasonable chance of happening if Cousins leaves, at least for a while until the drafted rookie is ready.
Colt cannot make the throws that Jay dials up for Kirk and so no, I do not think Colt (as much as I like the guy) can run the offense as effectively, irrespective of his understanding of Jay’s system.
He definitely wouldn’t be as effective as Cousins, and his noodle arm would limit the 9 route and out and up route strikes (not that Kirk is great at that either), but he’s good at the traditional WCO short passing game. If we’re talking about a placeholder while Jackson/Mayfield/Rosen/Darnold gets ready, they could do worse.
Colt can keep the lights on while the rest of the team is shored up.
^this
Fixed it!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpCatedxXpA
If this van’s a’rockin…….
Sometimes you just gotta find a way to communicate, know what I mean….
One thing I’m totally sure of after going through part 4 of this column is that placing any tag at all on Cousins this offseason is huge mistake.
yup
A mistake, yes.
But my gut tells me the skins transition tag him, thinking they can get a deal done. They mess it up and he bolts after the draft.
I doubt it.
but Cousins doesn’t want that because he loses leverage after the draft in FA too, so, the FT gives both sides reason to be serious in negotiations that it DID NOT the last two years; if I am Cousins, I sign the FT (if tagged) sometime before Day 2 of the draft is over.
The Redskins have completely screwed up this entire situation.
That’s why I figure whatever they do will only screw it up more.
Yes agreed
Basically the way the Skins get what they really want is if no team is looking for a FA starting QB in the off-season, otherwise, it’s pretty obvious what kind of money it takes to get it done. He’s got the stats to show it, it just matters who believes them.
I think the media that was asking all those questions about Trumps health should undergo the same scrutiny!
Only if you then give them a nuke.
Loved when he point at Acosta; who was screaming questions about Trump being racist and Trump calmly looked at him, pointed at him and quietly said, “Out.” and immediately he was ushered out of the Oval Office.
me too
The only sign and trade I can think of was Jared Allen…
Yeah Cassell also.
I think Matt Cassell was traded when he was on the tag but not sure the timing of it.
Jarred Allen was traded on the tag also.
I’m talking about sign and trades, not trading a tagged player. I don’t know the rules, but I know they exist. I’m going to research it.
Jared allen
I know it was you Fredo, you broke my heart!
One of the best scenes in any movie.
Agreed
Soon we’ll be saying, “I knew it was you Cousins, you broke our hearts!”
Kids started with a 2 hour delay and now they closed schools for this little bit of snow.
The 2 hour delay, the most useless things about snow.
Yeah
Also, at least in DC, the roads are good, for DC roads at least.
I don’t know about the other parts of the area.
Make him an offer he can’t refuse!
-The Godfather
Who is going to put the horses head in Kirk’s bed?
Colt McCoy – Texas kid, probably been around horses, probably not thrilled with the Kirk drama.
Be a good job for Suzy, give him something to do if it’s not too ‘icky’.
“Icky” is the part of the point
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A trade is utterly unrealistic. The NFL doesn’t have sign and trade deals like the NBA.
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The scenario kicked around recently which made some sense was a sign and trade with Cleveland; who has draft picks and cap space to burn. They are a team which could make a deal once the Skins tag Kirk which would send him to Cleveland where they could either work out a juicy LTD for Kirk or play him under the tag.
Yes but the problem is once you tag Kirk there is no guarantee he will want to go to Cleveland and than your stuck with him and the tag.
He would have no choice if he is traded.
I guess but Cleveland would than have to make sure they can sign him and not just be a 1 year rental.
Name one sign and trade that has ever happened in the NFL. I need to research this, but the NFL has rules regarding when a player can be traded after he signs a contract and after he’s been tagged.
Name one other player who has played on the tag for 2 consecutive seasons.
I hear you, but I’m telling you, I don’t think this is allowed. I’ll research this as soon as I can.
Steve: Thanks!
For that reason, I don’t think Kirk signs the tag right away.
But trading him on he tag is not going to get you crazy return, just having him a year sooner per se does have SOME value.
If someone told you, the Redskins could have an ILB like Reuben Foster, a safety like Jamal Adams, a running back like Leonard Fournette and a couple FA starters on the O and D line…..would you like to have that? Or would you like to see Cousins paid like a top 3 QB.
You can have one or the other but we can’t have both.
You know my opinion.
Bet you could get TJ Yeldon from the Jaguars without breaking the trade bank
I would like that.
Not into him. That said, he’s better than anyone we have.
who’s the qb?
“The CBA mandates that this tag, if used, must be the “Exclusive Tag”, which means that Cousins would not have the authority to negotiate deals with any other team.”
That is an important point of clarification.
He wouldn’t want to he would play out another year on the tag and hit FA’s next year.
He won’t have a choice if the Redskins tag him.
If we tag him I will be upset big mistake.
If you can make him sign it.
If they tag him and don’t agree to a LTD, his only choices are to sign it or not play in the NFL in 2018.
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Sports analysts for FOX, NBC, CBS, ESPN and even NFLN: “Thursday night Football has been terrible for the game, it’s bad for player safety and the short turnaround results in ugly, joyless matches that no one wants to see”
Executives for FOX, NBC, ABC, CBS: “So, how many billions can we give you to have Thursday Night Football?”
move that game to saturday night. college football will survive.
Yeah they have some deal in place that doesn’t allow that because of College ball.
I think I saw Sage Rosenfels bring up an idea on Twitter, Can Thursday for Tuesday nights. That way you give teams an extra day of rest between each week.
The NFL needs to start eliminating games, not just substitute one loser game night for another.
Well if I had my choice there would only be games on Sunday at 1:00, and 4:00 for the west coast teams.
NFL can’t play on Fri or Sat before December as part of their anti trust exemption
college football may survive, but Fox, ABC, ESPN, CBS and sometimes NBC are already (in)vested in college football Saturday contracts with the conferences
Yeah they are all making major bids.
It would prob go to ABC (not ESPN) because of college football. It’d be nice if ABC got both MNF and TNF (for the cable cutters out there) but I doubt that happens.
A think the NFL doesn’t seem to calculate in their long term thinking, or at least hasn’t shown any signs of it. For prime time games, “Free” TV is again going to be more valuable real estate than cable in terms of keeping eyes on your sport… and keeping eyes on you is the most important thing, you don’t want to end up like Boxing, where most people stop watching because everything is PPV.
additionally, WWE is not on Thursday anymore it is Monday-Tuesday (I think, it’s been awhile since I tuned in)
The problem is Cousins doesn’t want to negotiate he wants to hit FA’s, and if the Redskins are the highest bidder than we have a chance to sign him but not before then.
And this is only my opinion but the Skins SHOULD NOT be the highest bidder.
Agreed
Absolutely. Plus, realistically, they can’t afford to be the highest bidder even if they wanted to.
the highest bidder amongst the opportunities Cousins considers viable, which won’t be many teams, but probably enough
Denver and Jacksonville
Jacksonville will keep Bortles.
Maybe they will or maybe he throws 3 picks this weekend and they let him walk.
the problem is cousins is smart enough to realize the redskins are not a winning organization – and are not likely to be one in the next 5-8 years or so. why would he be “all in” on this shit show?
Yeah neither are any of the teams that will be interested in him.
I think there is a very good chance he doesn’t sign with the highest bidder, but with the best situation.
Not much best situation if you need to pay him that much.
i bet he will sign for less than max with a team he thinks is on the rise.
Maybe but not many teams on the rise that are interested in him.
Thanks, Mr. Steve. Great read. He won’t sign anything with less than 3 years guaranteed, though, IMO.
Please everyone forever refer to him as Mr. Steve… that could become a good bit.
And you’re El Capitan.
defacto, I believe that is correct. So, prob something that X whatever fake years and 80 million g’d at signing is going to not even be considered.
If that’s the case, then the Redskins should let him walk.
Yeah, remember the whole “I wanna pave the way for those that come after” thing? Owners aren’t gonna do that.
True….nor should they.
There’s a Jerry Falwell Jr. thing they show on TV out here, last words on commercial “we wanna change the world” (in a pleading voice).
the fact the Skins would not give him a defacto 3 year deal 2 years ago is a fairly known reason as to why he did not sign then. he wanted a deal that wasn’t an easy cut after 1 or 2 years
but the kind of LTD that he’s going to want now would prob make it difficult to cut him until after 4 years anyway
If so, how come every time I brought that up on y’all’s old blog, TI, it was swept aside? With the exception of Squinns. I CALL BULLSHIT!
Well done
Great article.
You’re forgetting option five……..
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Are they throwing a young John McEnroe into the Pit of Misery?
Ha! No blondie available.
Very well done Steve! Bravo.
Our organization definitely screwed the pooch on this one.
Nice piece, Steve. I think you nailed it.
@ABC
19m19 minutes ago
JUST IN: North and South Korea agree to field joint female ice hockey team and march together under “Korean Peninsula flag” at next month’s Winter Olympics.
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I’ve said it 1,000 times that the best way for us to avoid nuclear war isn’t diplomacy but ladies sports.
I’ve seen it a HUNDRED times!!!
At this very moment they are in the midst of an enemy to teammate to best friend montage set to Kenny Loggins music
Friendship is always at the beginning of the highway, at the end… the dangerzone.
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Clearly etrod throwing his hands up at the bottom there.
I’d have thrown two shockers
Given that the two major world leaders in question here have the emotional development of a 12 year old boy, this video may actually stop them…
Personally, I can go the remainder of the offseason without part 5.
I’m crazy crazy sick of discussing Cousins.
” In simple terms, if the Redskins pay him $34.5M in 2018, they realistically can’t then expect Cousins to accept a reduction in his annual compensation from that figure going forward unless his performance declines.”
So, Matthew Stafford makes more than $51 million next year?
“This is why a long term deal, if it was going to happen, needed to happen in this past offseason in order to make it reasonably cap friendly.”
Again, because the tag was so close to “market” value last year, neither side needed to negotiate, there was no impetus to.
A trade is utterly unrealistic. The NFL doesn’t have sign and trade deals like the NBA.
It doesn’t have them, or they’re against the NFL rules? That is, the NFL doesn’t allow contingency rider type things.