Let’s Talk About Alex Smith
February 5, 2018
by Steve Thomas
Welcome to Washington, D.C., Alex. Or rather, welcome to the Ashburn, Virginia area during the week and then suburban Maryland on Sundays. I’m not sure how the District of Columbia really fits into things anymore. I hope you’re aware that you’re about to step into the lion’s den of fan apathy, resentment, and anger. It isn’t you; it’s just frustration born watching 25 years of mostly losing. Regardless, enjoy your time here – winning is the best medicine, so the more wins you get, the more the city will love you. Simple.
I don’t particularly want to talk about the way this (pending) trade went down, at least not right now. The intent of this column is to take a hard look at what the Redskins are getting in their new starting quarterback. What has Alex Smith produced in his career thusfar, and what does it say about what he could potentially accomplish during his time in Washington?
Alex Smith, who is 6’4” and is listed at 217 pounds, was a 2 star recruit out of Helix Charter High School in La Mesa, California. He attended the University of Utah from 2002 – 2004, which was his only division I scholarship offer. While at Utah, he played in 25 games, leading the Utes to a 21 – 1 record in games that he started. Smith posted 389 completions in 587 attempts, for a 66.3 completion percentage, 47 touchdowns and just 8 interceptions for his career[1]. He steadily improved over the course of three seasons, with his final year, 2004, being his best: 214 completions on 317 attempts, 67.5 completion percentage, 9.3 yards per attempt, and 32 touchdowns to just 4 interceptions. For those of you who are college football fans, this was the Utah team that won, and won, and won, but was continually snubbed by the BCS because of the conference in which they played.
Smith was drafted by the San Francisco 49ers as the #1 overall pick in the 2005 draft. He only played 7 games in his first NFL season on a talent-free 49ers team that won just 4 games all year. He did not post good numbers as a rookie, completing just 50.3% of his passes, with 1 touchdown and 11 interceptions, 5.3 yards per attempt and a quarterback rating of 40.8[2]. In fairness, the 2005 49ers’ leading receiver was Redskins fan favorite Brandon Lloyd, who caught just 48 passes in 109 targets for 733 yards. They did have Frank Gore, but he was also a rookie that year and had clearly not become Frank Gore, borderline hall of famer, that he is today. Smith was one of three bad quarterbacks on a bad team that season.
Smith steadily improved during his time with the 49ers, and by 2012, which was his last year in San Francisco, he was putting up numbers that were Pro Bowl-worthy if extrapolated over a full 16 games: 70.2 completion percentage, 8.0 yards per attempt, 13 touchdowns, 5 interceptions, and a 104.1 quarterback rating. That 2012 49ers team, of course, had Collin Kaepernick as their quarterback of the future who started 7 games. They also had much better talent by that time, including a Frank Gore who was running on all cylinders and a 1,000 receiver in Michael Crabtree. All in all, Smith progressed in his efficiency and production, but did not do enough to force the 49ers to keep him. These are his San Francisco-era combined statistics from 2005 – 2012:
- 80 games played, 75 games started
- 2177 pass attempts, 1290 completions, 14,280 yards, 59.3 completion percentage
- 81 touchdowns, 63 interceptions
- 6.6 yards per attempt
- 79.1 quarterback rating
Smith’s trade to Kansas City for the 2013 season and pairing with head coach Andy Reid proved to be a godsend for his career. In the past four seasons, he averaged over 65% completions, had a quarterback rating of at least 93, averaged at least 7.0 yards per attempt. Reid, of course, runs a west coast offense that requires quick, accurate releases, Smith has excelled in that environment. In five years under Smith’s leadership, the team’s worst record was 9 – 7 (2014). He was selected for 3 Pro Bowls and played in 5 playoff games over five years, losing 4. His Chiefs-era combined stats were as follows:
- 76 games played, 75 games started
- 2436 passes attempted, 1587 completions, 17,608 yards 65.1 completion percentage
- 102 touchdowns, 33 interceptions
- 7.2 yards per attempt
- 94.8 quarterback rating
In fact, over that time period – 2013 through 2017 – Smith put up many top 10 or better numbers in comparison to his peers. He was extremely efficient. He was 8th in the NFL in passer rating for quarterbacks with 50 or more starts (1.3 points ahead of former Redskins quarterback Kirk Cousins), behind only, in order, Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees, Tom Brady, Russell Wilson, Ben Roethlisberger, Matt Ryan, and Philip Rivers. Completion percentage under those same limitations? 5th, just .16 behind Cousins. Smith was second only to Captain America himself, Brady, in interception percentage. By most measures, he was a roughly top 10 quarterback between 2013 – 2017.
However, in that same period, Smith was just 13th in the NFL in passing yards per attempt, at 7.23 Y/A, behind, among others, Andy Dalton (10th, 7.35), Rodgers (8th, 7.55), Cousins (5th, 7.69), and Wilson (1st, 7.81), and 18th in average passing yards per game. One corresponding criticism about him is that he plays a checkdown game, similar to what Cousins did at times while he was here. This is a valid criticism – according to https://nextgenstats.nfl.com (which is owned by the NFL), in 2017 Smith threw into “tight windows”, defined as a pass thrown when a defender was within 1 yard or less of a receiver at the time the pass was completed or incomplete[3], on just 12.7% of his attempts, which was ranked 40th in the NFL. According to www.sportingcharts.com, in 2016 Smith’s passes went an average of 3.23 yards in the air, which was ranked 50th[4]. Furthermore, the always fun but frequently inaccurate eye test showed me that the 2017 version of Alex Smith was actually throwing into tighter spaces a bit more than he had in years past. It does not mean that Smith won’t go deep; he has a strong, accurate arm. It just means that more often than not if the deep or mid-range receiver isn’t open, he’s going to most likely dump the ball off a bit more than some other quarterbacks.
This isn’t necessarily a terrible thing; Aaron Rodgers was ranked 36th and the Redskins’ Cousins was tied for 24th in this statistic. In fact, in some ways, it’s a staple of the west coast offense, which may be one of the reasons why Smith was so successful under Andy Reid. It means that Smith is a careful, efficient, cerebral passer who most likely won’t take too many chances, similar to Cousins. Jay Gruden will have to either scheme receivers open or rely on the natural ability of the receivers to separate in order for Smith to be successful. All Pro tight end Jordan Reed, when he’s healthy and playing, is a master at this, and Smith had a tremendously successful connection with Chiefs’ tight end Travis Kelce, who is one of one two tight ends in the NFL (Rob Gronkowksi being the other) who is in Reed’s league from a talent perspective[5]. Vernon Davis is still deceptively fast despite his age and can get open given the right circumstances. While Jamison Crowder is a talented receiver who can create some separation, 2016 first round pick Josh Doctson has a long way to go before this can be considered one of his better skills. In fact, the Redskins receivers in general, at least those who are still on the roster right now (Docston, Crowder, Maurice Harris, Robert Davis), all have talent and some speed, but still need development in this area. Translation: the Redskins need to acquire a wide receiver, probably a veteran, who knows how to create separation and get open in order to help Smith out.
One underrated and often overlooked aspects of Smith’s game is his ability to scramble. He’s an athletic, mobile guy considering that he stands 6’4”. In fact, during the period he was with the Chiefs, 2013 to 2017, Smith was in 4th place for total rushing yards for quarterbacks with 50 or more starts, behind only Cam Newton, Russell Wilson, and Collin Kaepernick (Cousins was 15th). He had 317 carries for 1672 yards during that time, and his 5.3 yards per attempt was 6th in the NFL under those same criteria. His 317 carries was 3rd-most behind only Cam Newton and Russell Wilson. He averaged 5.9 yards per carry on 60 attempts in 2017. In other words, this is one of the best rushing quarterbacks in the NFL, and he can still do it despite his age.
So what does all of this mean for the 2018 – 2022 Redskins? They are getting a smart quarterback with a big arm who won’t make many mistakes, but will need to rely on Jay Gruden’s west coast scheme to maximize his effectiveness. He’s shown absolutely no signs of slowing down, at least from a production standpoint, despite the fact that he’s about to be 34 years old. Washington is also gaining a weapon on the ground, the likes of which they haven’t seen since Robert Griffin III’s 2012 season. It’s certainly true that his Chiefs teams ultimately failed to get it done in the playoffs, but blaming all of that on the quarterback is for the foolish. Over Smith’s 7 total playoff appearances over his career, he posted ratings of over 100 three times, over 97 twice, 77 once, and 69.7 once, for an average rating of 97.4. He’s thrown 14 touchdowns to just 2 interceptions in those 7 games. So, while he didn’t take the Chiefs to the Super Bowl, he also played fairly well in those games, with the 2016 division round game against Pittsburgh being the sole exception.
I’m excited about the possibilities that Alex Smith brings to the Redskins, and I think he’ll do as well or better than Kirk Cousins did here, for less money. It really can work as long as Washington’s front office gets him some weapons.
What do you think? Leave me a comment below.
[1] All college stats courtesy of https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/.
[2] All pro stats courtesy of https://www.pro-football-reference.com/ except as otherwise noted.
[3] NextGen calls this number “Agg %”, short for Aggressiveness percentage.
[4] This site did not have 2017 air yards stats available.
[5] To read my breakdown of Jordon Reed from last year, click here.
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Copetition to see who get there first!
Is that like competitive fucking?
Not that I need another Growler for my beer, but I think I need this:
https://huckberry.com/store/growlerwerks?utm_source=fb&utm_campaign=growlerwerks&utm_medium=socialp&utm_term=ukeg&utm_content=shop
“Unless you’ve got the physique of Andre the Giant, dropping by a pub and carrying a keg of your favorite beer home is nothing more than a fantasy.”
Turn in your man card.
Yes, that line is really dumb.
They lose business with it, IMO.
If it were me I’d right “here is a cool growler, It’s got a beer tap handle and is made of copper, so it looks nice. Drink beer from it, and don’t be a douche”
https://cdn2.justwineapp.com/assets/article/2017/07/Allison-Lockhart-Canadas-Strongest-Woman-Lifting-a-Beer-Keg-1200×630.jpg
Anklepants!
-Alex
🙂
That’s a 20lb. empty keg.
You’re just mad cause she threw your ass outta Clyde’s, lol
I an’t mad. Besides, she isn’t ugly and women are are not ugly typically like me a lot.
She looks like a biker friend of mines ole’ lady.
do you have to have a beard to buy one of those?
You don’t have to, but you should anyway.
beards were so like 3 to 5 years ago East Coast is always behind the trends
Had a growler once….in college. She was the anti-Christ.
Is tennis a sport? If Walter can play it, is it really a sport or just a silly little nuisance that occasionally flitters across your tv as you’re changing channels?
NOOOOOO!
– Lawn Darts
Best. Game. Ever. Well, lawn game anyway. Certainly not for kids or drunk rednecks though.
Right, drunk rednecks shoot skeet.
And trap. And each other.
So, Cheney? Birds count, right? I think they do.
O yeah. Birds.Cats. Fords. But never ever dogs, that’s not cricket.
You’ve never met a redneck, huh?
Hundreds of fantastic folks with upstanding country values, yes.
Did you get curious as to the model of your ’94? 16″ barrel, or 20″?
It’s a 20″ with the short carbine tube mag. Made in 1926 via the serial #.
Very nice.
Trolling Walter is a sport.
Only a competition if others are doing it, too.
Indeed
So over lunch I got bored and calculated every teams passing yards to WR’s:
Team WR Yards & Ranking WR TD & Ranking
Pit 3272 1st, 21 2nd
DET 3024 2nd, 18 7th
TB 2960 3rd, 11 23d
ATL 2848 4th, 13 16th
LAC 2787 5th, 14 13th
MIA 2776 6th, 18 8th
LAR 2671 7th, 19 6th
NO 2604 8th, 13 17th
Min 2601 9th, 14 14th
AZ 2537 10th, 15 10th
SF 2530 11th, 7 28th
Oak 2477 12th, 20 3rd
SEA 2433 13th, 16 9th
JAX 2426 14th, 12 20th
HOU 2409 15th, 23 1st
NE 2397 16th, 14 15th
GB 2396 17th, 20 4th
DEN 2312 18th, 12 21st
KC 2285 19th, 12 22nd
PHI 2269 20th, 20 5th
WAS 2242 21st, 15 11th
NYJ 2165 22nd, 13 18th
NYG 2115 23d, 11 24th
DAL 2111 24th, 13 19th
CIN 2094 25th, 15 12th
TEN 1977 26th, 6 31st
Car 1922 27th, 11 25th
IND 1814 28th, 7 29th
CLE 1801 29th, 7 30th
BAL 1734 30th, 11 26th
BUF 1474 31st, 9 27th
CHI 1391 32nd, 4 32nd
might need some formatting
Yeah this place is still not great for posting tables.
Gee…..thanks.
I have vertigo, thanks
What does one make of these stats
Skins somehow didn’t have the worst WR core in the NFL like I’d have thought.
I think they did have poor wr’s, however quarterback is pretty good. He’s within a handful of yards of our new quarterback.
Balance matters. And what Alex said below.
The 4 teams in the Conference Championships were roughly middle of the pack. Using TE’s and RB’s in the pass game, running the ball. ‘Balance and unpredictability’.
For all the Patrick Stewart’s we have up here. A cure for baldness seems to be McDonalds Frys
http://www.businessinsider.com/dimethylpolysiloxane-in-mcdonalds-fries-could-cure-baldness-2018-2
Greg?
And D_C.
Resident chrome-domes.
And me…
there are sports and there are competitions
sports = football, baseball, hockey, basketball, skiing, bobsledding, speed skating, curling
competitions = ice skating, gymnastics, snow boarding
sports are head-to-head, competitions are judged
Marriage is a sport
Divorce is a competition
Marriage is the sport you go play after you retire from the sex Olympics. Kinda like Golf for ex-baseball players.
I know some HOF cheaters.
And everyone should keep in context, as I’ve mentioned before, the line of what is/isn’t a sport evolves over time too. That 100+ years ago, there was a popular opinion that any game that required a referee to enforce the rules, heavily like Baseball or Football were not considered real sports like track and field. As weird as it sounds now.
if the Other doesn’t have a mechanism for what loosely can be described as “defense” then I don’t consider it a sport. it is a possible recreational competition. you don’t need a team, so tennis is a sport as you can manipulate the other, but golf is not.
reality of it is, is that it’s all recreational entertainment
Get off my lawn!
-Walter (not a real Redskins fan)
mike,
that’s nuts. so a track race, javelin throw, long jump, is not a sport?
it would be pretty awesome if it was
I mean, NASCAR is a sport. you can block and use various strategies (like drafting) that affect the Other
it COULD be sport
noone,
“head to head” is not the determining factor. i mean, a “battle of the bands”, or gymnastics competition is as head to head as a ski race. the difference is a sport should have an objective means of determining a winner. stopwatch, tape measure, # of goals, pounds lifted, barrels jumped etc……
you’re speaking in the context of the spectator and its entertainment significance. I agree there. But from the “athlete’s” perspective gymnastics for example is a sport.
is ballet a sport? do ballerinas consider it a sport?
I consider ballerinas sport, yes.
So checkers is a sport?
Jk
SURE IS!!!!!!
– GEICO Caveman
You Goshdarn right it is! – Beep
Former NFL players Shane Matthews and Monty Grow are facing prison time for participating in a conspiracy that fraudulently took $20 million from a program providing health care for military members, veterans and their families.
Grow was the ringleader of the operation and faces up to 20 years in prison for the conspiracy. Matthews pleaded guilty one count of causing a drug to be misbranded and was sentenced to three months in prison.
Matthews played quarterback for the in Chicago, Carolina, Washington, Cincinnati, Buffalo and Miami. He started 22 games in his NFL career. Grow played briefly for the Chiefs and Jaguars.
Matthews and Grow were teammates at Florida in the early 1990s.
Sounds like Shane flipped on his teammate.
the american judge awarded him a 9.3 for artistry.
There is more to it than that incomplete blurb… http://www.sunherald.com/sports/article198619034.html
as they say, stupidity is not a valid legal defense
Hopfully the authorities recoup some of that money and return it to its intended recipients.
Interesting that Czaben put this out. The chart down in there of how often Jacoby went head to head with HOF DE’s is insane.
http://czabe.com/the-post/the-case-for-joe-jacoby/
I’m one of those rare people that love the Winter Olympics more than the summer. Love the skiing (downhill and jumps), the snowboarding, the bobsled, the short track ice skating, biathalon, curling, etc.
that short-track skating is a trip. i love that snowboarding race where they have 4 or 5 racers on the track together. however, the snowboarding with the half-pipe and tricks and stuff (shawn white, etc…) are not sports, but performances.
If you don’t think that takes all sorts of athleticism, then I don’t know what to tell you. Just like the skiing arials.
is ballet dancing a sport?
this logic also requires that figure skating is not a sport… most certainly just a performance.
agree on figure skating, diving, toilet paper dancing (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5XsybhNOPs ), etc…
All the games that require a judge should be moved to their own Olympic season in Fall
alex,
that would be fine, and they could show it on the lifetime channel or oprah network.
I got no issue even if its on ABC or a big network, just think it should be its own thing. I’d also bring back the music and arts segments of the Olympics in that season.
Agree. There is a special skill set, competitive nature and legit athleticism required to putt those off.
bruce,
same with ballet. those guys/gals are incredibly athletic and coordinated.
Team bobsled…one guy steers, everyone else keeps their head down till the ride is over.
Well they push at the beginning
Those damn whipper snappers and their saggy pants!!!
https://media.giphy.com/media/BzwBs4sqBGdFu/giphy.gif
Get off my lawn!
it has absolutely nothing to do with its being a relatively new “sport”. like i said, i like the snowboard race.
You’re not a real fan!
We are now, officially as real as TI.
I thought so too
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Isn’t it a little weird how the players were outraged about trading Fuller but the news that Cuz was replaced was met with silence. There is something very strange about that.
From what I heard on the radio after it happened most the team knew Kirk wasn’t coming back.
…and didn’t seem upset about it at all.
Maybe that, maybe it’s also that vibe of resigned to ones fate.
More same old same old
I think it was Santana Moss who hinted at that. “had to bite his tongue” during the year, but everyone knew he wasn’t coming back.
how much of that is hyperbole and/or informed, I don’t know
So Winter Olympics, what sports are folks ready 2 watch? I see that the 1st Mens Hockey game is at 7 AM on the 14th.
Curling! Yay! Sweep that damn ice!
Bobsleding–Jamaica style
Wait… that’s starting?
Yep on the 8th.
skii racing (timed by a stopwatch), speed skating, luge, bobsled, skeleton, ski jumping, biathalon and yes, curling.
Downhill
yes. awesome. included in “ski racing”.
Ik
those downhill guys (and gals) are crazy, crazy, crazy.
Aye, you can literally DIE. Luge also.
in “skeleton”, you go down head first. nuts.
I had a boss that goes skiing all over the world, poster boy for “wrong impression”, he is a farmer from Appomattox, Va. Anyway, he told me about watching them practice over in Austria somewhere. You better be brave, all I’m sayin’.
First time I was in his office, he’s jabbering on about a hydraulic unit while eating cold soup out of a can, I look at his wall, “are these lift tickets?” Walter, they were from everywhere, including South America.
Downhill skiing
I mean downhill skiing is more fun to watch, but uphill, that’s the hard skiing where they seperate the wheat from the chaff
Grand Tour skiied with Jaguars. so I’m kinda got a full tank for winter sports, and ready to move on to spring ball
BScherffs twitter is like the back pages of field and stream
Yes, He sure does like to get outdoors.
does he drink craft beers?
do all philosophers have an “s” in their name?
Techically even the most famous philosopher with an S in his name doesn’t REALLY have an S in his name because his real name is Σωκράτης.
A routine National Weather Service test on Tuesday resulted in a false push notification to mobile phones about a tsunami warning, giving jolt to many residents on the East Coast.
so if you’re evacuating from the tsunami, stop
Maybe we should have the tests re-phrase it to a Godzilla attack.
it was an (in)accuweather screw up, not an NWS screw up.
Do you have a NWS issued statement to back that up?
“In a statement to NBC News, the NWS said that a routine test was sent out and that the agency is investigating why it was communicated as an actual tsunami.
“The test message was released by at least one private sector company as an official Tsunami Warning, resulting in widespread reports of tsunami warnings received via phones and other media across the East Coast, Gulf of Mexico, and the Caribbean. We’re currently looking into why the test message was communicated as an actual tsunami warning, and will provide more information as soon as we have it,” the NWS said.”
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/national-weather-service-sends-out-false-tsunami-warning-east-coast-n845046
No details on what the “test” message sent to AccuWeather contained. I’ma laugh if they left off the intro.
more detail:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/capital-weather-gang/wp/2018/02/06/accuweather-warned-customers-a-tsunami-was-coming-except-it-was-only-a-test/?utm_term=.74ddd86c8e89
There’s the intro
False nuke warnings in Hawaii, false tsunami warnings on the east coast. What the hell is going on with our warning systems. Sheesh.
They are running all on windows 10.
lol
So did this latest name change topic have anything to do with this story about the re-naming of the rebel yell at KD?:
http://www.richmond.com/business/local/kings-dominion-renaming-iconic-rebel-yell-roller-coaster/article_5c754b18-61de-51ec-8590-a0a118b5378a.html
The coaster has been renamed to racist 75.
… I mean… racer 75
I mean it’s a fun roller coaster. But it’s no Grizzly
Mosby’s racer?
That thing is still around? I remember that from when I was a kid
Yep. It’s still going. And some folks are really upset about them changing the name.
alex35332 Team Captain SCamp • a minute ago
Oh easily the Millenials are softer than previous. So are Gen X, Boomers, the silent generation. Do you know what the grandparents of the greatest generation thought about their grand kids. Called them soft for not fighting in trenches and using toilet paper.
As society improves everyone gets softer.
Heck the post millennial walk around with bubble wrap around their heads.
___________________
Good.
1) They are then easily identifiable.
2) I don’t have to see their ugly mugs.
3) I can hit them in the face and not hurt my hand.
Yep. In another 6 generations, we won’t even let kids use a butter knife. Mostly becasue all food will be sliced for us by robots.
unless they don’t. empire falls. and we’re back to the 19th century.
The only way we go back that far is if we fail via nuclear war. If we do it smart like the British did in the 40’s and 50’s we will be fin.
no, it would just take financial collapse
and the whole world could financial collapse. servers get turned off. libraries of information in the digital age greatly curtailed
if you don’t pay people, they don’t work, absent re-institution of a kind of slavery
what’s the over/under on Falcon Heavy blowing up on the pad?
on the pad, low, does that count if it goes up and falls down missing the pad?
if it clears the tower it’s off the pad
volume on the Dow already over 350M so far
Crazy
https://twitter.com/Snide_Remarks/status/960895840851251202
Didn’t see that coming.
Interesting:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DVT9NRAWAAAphYD.jpg
I saw that earlier today
I’m all for bringing back Jovias G
Lookie lookie, well how ’bout that.
walter_in_fallschurch • 39 minutes ago
my wife has a really funny, and seemingly accurate, theory that people who like craft beers have beards.
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It’s a coinciding of 2 things. Beards are common for men of the millennial age groups and younger, I’ve got and heard many theories as to why. They are also heavy craft beer drinkers when compared to the Gen-X, Boomers, who drink most the chick beer.
They look like idiots.
Old men drinking light beer, sure do.
Young peeps with beards, sipping lattes. Many of whom are hipsters.
well the latte thing started with Gen X.
The women of Gen X… the Millenial men appropriated it from women.
Whatever ya’ll need to keep telling yourselves.
I think that might be your issue. Trying to justify the pussification of America in the Millenial generation. Whatever makes you feel better dude.
Oh easily the Millenials are softer than previous. So are Gen X, Boomers, the silent generation. Do you know what the grandparents of the greatest generation thought about their grand kids. Called them soft for not fighting in trenches and using toilet paper.
As society improves everyone gets softer.
Heck the post millennial walk around with bubble wrap around their heads.
“Society improves”
Not sure I agree with that characterization… but I agree with the rest of that statement.
Okay, technology may be a better term than society.
There ya go. I buy that
I’ll take Man Buns and Millennials for $800, Alex.
Man buns I cannot explain
My guess is that since dad’s don’t get ticked off about long hair on boys anymore, young guys had to step up to the man bun to piss off pops. I bet it works too.
Look, guys in the 90’s had friggan pony tails. So I will say the man bun looks better than that.
Lol. I’m not saying anything about it other than the fact that I bet it torques off dads who would otherwise not be offended by long hair.
Heck, those same dad’s were probably guys who, like me, did have long hair at some point in the 90s. And did, sometimes, pull it back.
I mean I had longish hair my first year of college, but it was more that I didn’t want to waste beer money on a hair cut.
The man bun looks better than a pony tail?
Okay…
Just saying, every era has it’s terrible hair styles.
Sure… but the man bun or douche knot is the worst… ever.
my wife has told me unequivocally, and i 100% agree, that i cannot wear a man-bun or capri pants.
No, the entire 80’s was the worst ever.
http://friendlyhairstyles.website/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/80s-hairstyles-george-michael-hair-styles-cool-mens-hair-pertaining-to-80s-mens-hairstyles.jpg
https://latenitefashion.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/images1.jpg
http://beautyhacked.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/mullet-haircut-80s-for-men-805×1231.jpg
^ This guy would NEVER drink a craft beer. He’s from Pittsburgh, too, in case it wasn’t obvious.
He may grab a PBR but he won’t drink it ironically.
Drives an IROC
LOL!
https://media.giphy.com/media/9lgKSSoHhE9Tq/giphy.gif
NPI gets a small royalty on that.
LOL
I’m guessing Baltimore
I can’t, for the life of me, figure out why a certain segment of men always want to have hair that look like women.
But to be fair… you just posted a picture of a gay mans hair… in the music business. Not exactly and accurate depiction of the country as a whole.
True. But you know that style of wavy perms was popular for a good decade regardless of who they were trying to sleep with.
I grew up in the 80’s and NEVER saw ANYONE with that hairstyle walking around in public. NEVER…
Now the mullet on the other hand (facepalm)
A beard protects you from biting wind, briars, sparks, burning sun.
I just like having one because it frames the face, hides the double chin.
Plus, it grows there. I mean, I maintain mine so I don’t look all mangy. But shaving it all the way down to nothing seems extreme to me.
Yeah, What’s the fun in that.
I have a fairly close-trimmed beard because I hate to shave, and I pretty much had to for my 33 year career. Drag a beard trimmer through it twice a week and I’m good to go.
Same here, I go back and forth from a goatee in the summer to a full beard in the winter. Have since I was 17.
sorry if I missed it, but McDaniels does go to the Colts
Sounds like he’s playing on again off again…
ESPN reporting it as official
It occurs to me (amid yet another name change article over at Wapo) that IF someone DID name their sports team The Cleveland Caucasians, or even the Potomac Pale Skins or Wherever White Skins or some such, and the reason that they named it that was explained, in something like this manner: “We wanted a name that represents fierceness, resilience, toughness, and all around general bad ass-ness.” I would not be offended.
Now, if the logo was a pair of white hands holding out blankets with little green cartoon small pox germs on them, I might be.
But if it was just a dignified profile of some white dude (or dudette, for that matter) I would think it was just fine, even kind of flattering.
I can’t bring myself to be offended by anything race related…
The big picture issue is whether we, as a society, are okay or not okay with using references to a group of people as sports team names. Personally, as long as it is respectful and not intended to be an insult, I’m okay with it, but I’m not easily offended.
The past history of treatment of Native Americans and the current status of that group on these reservations is a legit issue, and there’s no doubt that they’ve suffered quite a bit at the hands of the U.S. government. I just think that neither the name “Redskins” or the drawing of the chief’s head are insults.
steve,
interesting question as to whether something is offensive because people are offended by it. there is a lot there to ponder.
This is the very same issue as the NFL player flag protests, which, as I stated on both The Hog Sty and It’s Just Business, caused me to boycott the NFL for the first half of this season except for the Redskins games. Those players say that they were doing their protest in the name of social justice and not as a protest of the flag and the military, but if offensive conduct and speech is in the eye of the beholder for things like the use of racial terms and sports team names, why was it not okay for me to be offended by those national anthem protests?
But if 9 out of 10 say it isn’t offensive, do we take the interpretation of the offended or the majority?
Chief Offended is doing quite well with his casino. He’s got SJW friends and money for a megaphone.
JS,
those poll numbers vary wildly depending on which native americans you ask and how the question is phrased. then there’s the aspect of “appropriation”. for example, i can’t say ni**er, but black people can.
They do vary wildly, but I can’t recall a poll showing that a majority were offended by “Redskins”.
steve, here’s one:
indian counrty today survey:
81% offended (no distinction btwn on/off reservations).
http://indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com/ictarchives/2001/08/07/american-indian-opinion-leaders-american-indian-mascots-84807
Touts Democrats in headline, yet
“In February of 2017, Rep. Rob Wittman, R-1st, introduced H.R. 984, the Thomasina E. Jordan Indian Tribes of Virginia Federal Recognition Act of 2017. The House of Representatives passed the bill by a voice vote in May, and the Senate approved it with unanimous consent on Jan. 11 with the strong support of Senators’ Mark Warner and Tim Kaine, both former Virginia governors.”
Ole’ Vinny is suspect.
Poll was conducted by the Washington Post. I’m sure they likely asked the most likely to be offended Native Americans.
If an African American person called you the N word in general conversation, would you be offended?
To me, you take the majority.
steve,
so 49% is the number you are willing to offend?
Well, first, the “you” is Dan Snyder. All we can do is talk about it. But there’s a difference between use of a word in speech and the use of trademarked names and symbols. The question becomes whether Dan Snyder should relinquish his multi-million dollar trademarks because a minority of people don’t like them. I say no.
well… you said, ” to ME, you take the majority.” i took that to mean you were talking about yourself…
if not 49%, what percent do you think it’s ok to offend?
I can’t possibly put a number on it. If I was using a term that many people told me was offensive, I’d stop using it. But that’s a world apart from an 80 year old trademarked name of an organization.
they were surprisingly treated like a conquered people
Yeah, but if you want to go back, things like the Trail of Tears were unnecessarily brutal.
If I’m Dan Snyder, I’m buying double-wides and building schools in Fort Apache, Pine Ridge, and Standing Rock. F the BIA and the train they rode in on.
It’s my understanding that Dan Snyder has made quite an impact in the Native American community… and has done so quietly
I specifically named those reservations for a reason.
Southside Saltines, yuge fan.
my wife has a really funny, and seemingly accurate, theory that people who like craft beers have beards.
…yet can’t field dress a deer or run a trotline
Or plow a field all day long,
catch catfish from dusk till dawn.
Make their own whiskey and grow smoke too.
Ain’t too many things them ole’ boys can’t do,
And we say grace, and we say ma’am
And if you ain’t into that, we don’t give a damn.
See… someone gets it
They CAN, however, order one HECK of a latte
Half-caff decaf pumpkin spice mocha and caramel…..with a splash of cream?
That’s not even a thing, is it?
Coffee, black.
I am not going to try to get a deer into a dress. that *sounds* kinda… really… weird
You have an ironic beard don’t you
Mike knows what’s up, even if it was many moons ago.
kind of like Frank Beard?
Crazy volatility in the market this morning
The markets have been so overdue a correction yet some in the medis think this is the end of the world. The secular Bull market has quite a few more years left due in part to solid global growth, accelerating domestic activity, capital spending improvement, and incomes that are jumping.
and technically I think they say it needs to fall another 1.5% to be formally considered a “correction”
Probably because Superbowl viewership was down.
well, generally speaking that ads stunk and the halftime show… I’m still waiting for them to work out their audio problems
we had a little party at our house. someone said “JT” is doing something at halftime. i was excited to see what joe theismann was going to do. instead….. we got what we got. (and the timberlake fans were happy about it.)
the super bowl is watched by 2 entirely separate crowds: those watching the game, and those watching everything else.
Most folks bet on the Pats, have to pay their bookies, so they are selling the stocks to pay off gambling debts.
there were a handful of very large bets (7 figure) on the Eagles, maybe it’s the casinos cashing out
It’s kind of fun, if you’re into scalping
It’s a wild ride for sure
If you’re not careful, it’s easy to get whipsawed.
Emotional reactionaries have no place in the market
You are correct. S&P 500 Volatility Index at 43.76, up from 10. That’s crazy territory.
Almost unprecedented really. I bought a bunch of S&P yesterday… lettin’ it ride now
So I asked yesterday, but then had to spend hours actually working and I missed the answer.
Newest posts and oldest posts are self evident filters. Who determines, and how are ‘best’ posts determined.
Upvotes
i’ve seen many ‘best’ posts with 1 upvote
That’s the average around here
Because there aren’t many upvotes here
It’s a mathematical formula, similar to how they give out supplemental draft picks.
lol
Finally, for today, we’ll have a new post around lunch time.
slackers….pfffft
It’s more that I just like my Alex Smith column at the top for another few hours.
Lunchtime post?
What’s for lunch?
Beer and Ketchup
…
that’d be a good name for a podcast
I mean, there are more beer podcasts out there than skins podcasts.
More people like beer
can’t disagree with that!
wouldn’t have to be about beer or ketchup
like say… if someone were to name a podcast Cake and Cookies
#RobbSpewakcanbeadickonFacebook
zero surprise there; because that’s who he is on the “radio”
Thanks Mr. Steve
In terms of terms
3 more years?
in terms of yards only: Offense 16th overall/12th passing/28th rushing | Defense 21st overall/9th passing (wait really?) / 31st rushing I am not saying they don’t need to improve the defense, it’s a need, and we were decimated with injuries last year in the front 7 more than anywhere else on the roster. But I am saying that the biggest weakness on this roster last year was that they had no premier offensive weapons outside a 3rd down back.
Our number 1 WR finished 34th in the league didn’t even have 800 yards. Vernon Davis was 2nd on the team all the way down at 54, Grant 67th, Crowder 83rd, Doctson 85th.
In terms of draft strategy, I think it’s pretty dumb to just indiscriminately draft the “best player” all the time without any regard for how that player fits into your team strategy and needs in the current year and going forward. Doing that all the time is how you end up with a roster full of holes.
Unless you’re convinced the next Lawrence Taylor is right there waiting for you, I think the best thing to do is to develop a draft board that takes both team needs and player ratings into account to one extent or the other. I’m convinced that that’s how most teams operate. Again, don’t pass on Lawrence Taylor even if you already have, say, Preston Smith, but generally speaking, I think that’s the way to go in order to be most successful.
Yes, ‘best’ player can be subjective. Character, injury history, interview, ‘football’ intelligence. The Full Monty.
Also, you typically roll in DL, maybe other parts of the front 7
but you don’t do that for every position, so like we were discussing, FS, if you like who you have starting at S, it’s a real difficult decision to use a high pick on another one. it’s less of an issue for a DL.
I posted this here yesterday evening, but for the benefit of the morning crowd; sorry to make a few of you read it twice:
We put this out on Twitter, but I’ll say it here, too. Now that the season is over, we’d like to thank everyone who listened to us, read our material, or otherwise supported The Hog Sty – it was a great year for us, and that includes you guys here in the comment section. “Clickbait” aside, having these posts with all of these comments helps us, too.
That having been said, some of you guys, generally, please try harder to limit the personal insults. Like we said before, this is a free forum where cursing is welcome, and discussion of any topic at all is welcome, but please try to limit the insults. Not just for touchy-feely reasons, but also because we want outsiders who read this stuff not to think that this is the wild, wild west here. So help us out, please.
wow I just realized that 2029 isn’t far away
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my expiration date is some where in the 2029-2033 range given family history
Shatter the record, reset the bar.
Add years by, eating bacon, smoking cigars and chasing skirt.
throw in excessive drinking and you have Cousin Ronnie, he lived to 40
Free range bacon.
well…. hopefully you had your “mid-life crisis” 30 years ago or so.
(that expression always cracks me up because it implies people think they will live to 100 or more…)
http://fortune.com/2018/02/06/two-men-charged-jackpotting/
August 9th, 2030: The day the music and this blog dies.
1st round DT > 1st round WR
So if the best player available at 13 is a wide receiver, you take him? Even though there is a DT, a ILB, and a FS there that you absolutely need, who is deserving of a early teens pick but technically not the BPA? Nah, pass.
Depends on if we’ve grabbed a WR in free agency.
But right with how the roster looks, I’d argue that a good WR is a bigger need than that 3rd good DT (we have 2).
Or the best OT or OG in the draft. Or Barkley.
Barkley won’t be there.
I’m personally for a Derwin James or Minkah Fitzpatrick type All Galaxy guy if he’s there. If Sean Taylor were on the roster I’d be singing a different tune, but he’s not.
^ Either of those two plus Smith would likely be the BPA at 13 for sure. Sprint to the podium. It’s about the long-term building and development of the roster, not one draft.
While operating in overlapping 4year rookie deals, critical path, IMO.
^ Boom. Draft/develop/retain.
Which makes your draft BPA@PON, by default.
ALL positions are a ‘need’. Stockpile young talent, trade excess for picks if you ever get to that point.
🙂
I think they really like Nicholson.
And he likes smashing his head on shit.
Giants take Barkley
Just superstar needs.
^ Yup, if they’re smart and Gettleman is no dummy.
No. If we lose any of those DT, like we did with Allen last year, our whole defense goes to shit. Take the DT and own that fucking line. Made a tremendous difference last year.
And our roster at WR last year when 100% healthy was a big flaming pile of shit coated in more shit then doused with rubbing alcohol and a few corpses to make it just the most massive pile of burning shit covered bodies.
We scored enough last year to win. This offense distributes the ball.
We couldn’t stop anyone last year, run or pass. Until you stop that, you ain’t winning shit.
Once Chris Thompson went down, we didn’t score much at all. Kirk’s passing numbers went off a cliff.
look at the shit for wide receivers he had, and, again, Jordan Reed? he’s always hurt it seems.
What was our passing offense ranked last year?
What was our D ranked last year?
LOL! That’s an analogy that will stick with me all week.
what if Calvin Ridley is the next Julio Jones or even AJ Green
So now peeps that condemn first round wide receivers are calling for one……. snowball headed for hell.
the argument is for BPA not specifically WR
BPA could be a quarterback? What then?
I mentioned that yesterday, if one of those 2 top QB’s fall to 13, Rosen or Darnold, I’d be very tempted to draft them anyway, let them sit behind Smith for a season or two to develop, then trade Smith for whatever picks we can get, go forward.
That’s on Jay, IMO. It would be tempting.
Is it ideal for next season, no, clearly not.
But is it ideal for the team to maybe have a QB that can be the guy from 2019-2029, yes… and wow I just realized that 2029 isn’t far away.
4 QBs are prob going in the first 6 or 7 picks
I was thinking that, but I’m starting to wonder now. 5 or 6 teams probably need QB’s but there will be at least 3 good starting QB options now in free agency.
Build the fucking lines please! Damn, it’s not that hard. Look at the teams that make the playoffs..smgdh
^ this! Teams that own the line of scrimmage win. This is the foundation of a championship team. First rounds are great for picking up lineman
It’s not that hard a concept to grasp, yet…..
Strictly BPA leaves a roster subject to being riddled with holes. That philosophy is a bust.
Many ways to skin a cat. Again, BPA is subjective and has nothing to do with McShay or Kiper. A teams vision, how it wants to develop its roster. At any pick after the top 6 or so, the grades are slow close. Character counts, injury history, etc. etc. etc.
The definition of BPA@PON.
LOL!
And by the time you’re in the 5th and 6th rounds….who the hell is the BPA anyway?
I think even Scot said that after the 4th round he was usually looking to fill holes on the roster rather than go BPA.
Stroman
The Spider
Senat
Dudes like that.
Pass
I’d like to see them take a defender but WR looks like a pretty big need if they don’t get one in FA. You have Doctson on the outside on one side but who takes Pryor’s spot if/when he’s gone.
The thing Belichick does better than most, trades later career players for a pick next year and trades back for more picks this year
Yes, picks are like gold, unless a stud falls to us at 13, I’m all for trading back.
it’s called Hyperbolic discounting
yes it is a real thing
Yeah, we read the link you posted the other day.
some of you are good learners then
You’re my data analysis guru.
Never ever trade up unless you really are that one player at a glaring PON away from making a run. Plus, banking on rookies is fools gold. You won’t know what you have with a draft class until after its 2nd full season and the 2 camps.
He traded for Kony Ealy and cut him
He traded for Cassius Marsh and cut him
He traded for Dwayne Allen and he caught ten passes
He traded for Phillip Dorsett and he caught 12 passes
He’s doing more harm than good lately
probably why the lost the Super Bowl
Bill has lost it, fire him now!
Just stating facts
Traded away Garapalo and benched Butler, maybe he is losing it.
Lbsand • a few seconds ago
Certainly not me. I’m a BPA every round/every year guy and never – ever – trade up. I just find it interesting a lot of fans say ‘grab a guy to develop in the mid rounds’ like GM’s are selecting a candy bar at 7-11.
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I think if you pressed most the people like that, myself included I could tell you exactly the guy I’d want to grab and why. None of us are scouting experts, but we all watch enough highlight film on these guys on youtube, and watch them at the Senior Bowl, ect. I suspect, at least among those up here, that they have a reason behind who they want to see drafted.
BPA@PON
BEEPY – AYE
Yes, that’s part of it.
Backup QB/ QB of the future is a PON, Colt’s in his final year, Every QB we have is in the backend of their carrers.
A backup QB might be the 2nd most important player on a roster.
– Nick
The new Tampax BPA@PON…for even your heaviest of days.
Meh….
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/96915249dda88f3b4971248060015774e57eb04f0941875c8d2ff049a3a0bc68.jpg
Very creative.
Every position is a need in the draft. A perennial 7-9/8-8 team is in no position to pass on superior talent. That said, ‘BPA’ is subjective. Depends on a teams vision and how they want to build a roster.
That applies to your BPA@regardless as well.
Yup, that’s half the fun! And easy for us to say. Franchise stability and vision is such a key. I’m beyond happy the Skins have moved in that direction, although I would have liked Scot to get 5 drafts and FA periods.
Scot didn’t do well with the 3 he had.
Lots of GM’s don’t. It’s the steady ship that get’s it done over the long haul.
3? He had ’15 and ’16, plus maybe ’17 if the Skins more-or-less used his draft board.
Kirk has never been the Prom Queen and that is what he desperately wants. He wants to be flown into each city and have the red carpet laid out for him. He wants multiple teams bidding on him and he wants to choose where he plays.
So why would he pick Jersey? Joe was a sinner, SHAME! SHAME!
Not sure that he would but if they have they most money he might.
Which would make everything that fucker ever said, a lie. I don’t care if he does, just don’t see it based on what has been.
Kirk went to the prom but ended up in the side parlor sitting next to Mohammet, Jugdish, Sidney and Clayton.
LOL
Figured you’d catch that.
Well hope he has fun when they roll out the red carpet in Cleveland.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hT6Q6XRqu5I
Must be a day that ends in y
I know this because, peeps are talking about that guy who’s not our starting QB
They only way a Cousins trade works at this point is if the other team can convince him to sign a tag and trade deal, so they can avoid him being on the open market
who can throw enough money his way to do that? J-E-T-S
Don’t see Kirk wanting to be a JET.
Why not? Isn’t the OC there someone who runs a lot of what Shanny did? Actually called plays for Shanny in Denver.
Yes Jets offense would be a good fit for him
Just don’t see it.
Yes
And KC would have to know that that’s the best he would get in FA. That’s the problem, he wants to set his value in FA. Signing early could reduce the number of competing offers.
I just don’t see any incentive for KC to agree to a sign and trade.
Me either and I doubt the Redskins are doing anymore then keeping it as an option. The media has blown this way out of whack but what else is new.
It could help one of the teams get Kirk but it’s not FA’s and that is what Kirk wants.
There is a risk to Kirk that if some team tries to sign him before FA and they make a fair market value offer and he turns them down, GMs could see that as a negative sign and cause them to back off and he ends up shooting himself in the foot
True
unless the team is the Browns and then Kirk get rewarded for smart thinking
LOL
https://media.giphy.com/media/oaZk0WNSO7fXi/giphy.gif
It really doesn’t matter when or where you obtain the young QB to groom or even be the day 1 starter. All that counts is you get the RIGHT guy. Grabbing a JAG in the 4th is grabbing a JAG in the 4th. If the value is there, fine.
The two guys that just played in the SB were 3rd and 6th round picks.
Yup. And I can name you 40 jags. Plus I believe 90% of the peeps up here were calling Foles garbage. The point is, don’t just take a QB to take a QB. It rarely works out.
Agreed but there are plenty of Jags in the 1st round also,.
Indeed, it’s such a hard position to forecast.
Yes it has to be the right guy but the value in grabbing a rookie in the draft to groom is in the contracts. That kid you draft in the 6th, 5th wherever is gonna make 1/2 a million a year while being groomed to be a backup, where a free agent you may bring in will be asking for more.
BTW who would advocate drafting someone the team doesn’t believe in? Regardless of position. You have to have scouted the person.
Certainly not me. I’m a BPA every round/every year guy and never – ever – trade up. I just find it interesting a lot of fans say ‘grab a guy to develop in the mid rounds’ like GM’s are selecting a candy bar at 7-11.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1712b0441fbb6b261294e813147d5e656146d4b3a66d9b45e7f66434fd70b1c7.jpg
Ha
Bunch of Pat’s fans would shart themselves after seeing that
Spread it around
The shart?
No, if one wishes to spread that, it would preferably be a dry one.
Redskins could try to trade Kirk Cousins, but here’s how he can fight back
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/redskins-could-try-to-trade-kirk-cousins-but-heres-how-he-can-fight-back/
I doubt it happens just filling media space since they have nothing else to talk about.
Gronks house got robbed. ESPN is reporting…
http://es.pn/2E6mrk8
I would assume it was easy to determine he wouldn’t be home this past Sunday evening.
Maybe it was for not catching the Hail Mary.
From what I read about pats fans being pissed at BB for not playing Butler he should have his house robbed.
i DO enjoy the idea of pats* fan being mad at possibly the best coach ever.
Remember way back when, Cooley was out in Wyoming and someone kept trying to case his house to see if they could rob him, Cooley’s uncle was living there and took a photo of the car and the plate, posted it on their website.
That was you!??? No shit!
I mean, I was a big Cooley Fan Boy at the time… but I didn’t own a car.
how long do we expect alex smith to play? injury history? can we get 3 years out of him? do we draft his replacement this year or next? or after that?
My belief is that his 5 year deal is in all reality a 3 year deal. I would still take a QB this season beyond round 2 and keep Colt in the stable.
^this
So you’re boldly assuming it’s like every other NFL contract ever?
It’s what intergalactic pussy slayers do…..
Beyond round 2 would be rd 4 and up. Gave up tbe 3rd. I can see them passing on a Wilson or Rothlesberger again tho …
Lauletta looks like Garrapolo. If they all gone draft him w 2nd pick….security.
Who cares who he looks like, he moves like Drew Brees.
Looks like potential. Moxy.
Screw stats.
No matter the D…Gotta close out. Never get to SB otherwise.
i think “screw stats” are rather personal and may not be indicative of QB potential.
Winners go home and screw the Prom Queen. Completely relevant. Has the QB got game?
I believe he does, even though he’s a Richmond Spider.
Granted all I’ve seen of him is the senior bowl.
Trade up for Mayfield and throw Kirk and Smith in…3 team deal !!
regardless of whether we want him, would we really need to trade up for mayfield?
Yea cuz McC entered the picture… we got 2 QBs ‘wanted’ !
He’s 33
Given how qbs have been going lately three years is easy
the issue with taking a QB this year is that he would have a 4 year rookie deal, so if Smith plays 2 years and then rides shotgun year 3, you only have the guy under contract 1 year before he (OR SHE) is looking for an extension, 2 before they need to be Franchise Tagged. I mean, it worked for A Rodgers. So it is possible, but I think they wait a year. Might take a QB late as a developmental prospect but not a presumptive starter type draft pick.
that’s kinda my point. you can’t draft the replacement too early. but, how long does smith play? there’s a sweet spot somewhere.
k0n broke the 8-ball, short answer, we have no idea.
let’s get an 8-ball, it’ll last us all weekend
*smash cut, few hours later*
rrreer wwwwerrrrreee LET’S GET ANOTHER 8-ball!!! rrrrrrr wwwwwwww
-D Leary
Yep, I agree. Might take a late round QB anyway, looking for a long-term back up. And if he turns out to be starter caliber, that’s a lucky break.
We used our third rounder on a QB this year. Let’s wait til next year, unless its a late rounder.
I think you have to have someone in the pipeline that you draft this season. The economics of the NFL, if you don’t have 1 QB on a rookie deal that you’re coaching up, then you are doing things wrong.
If he’s healthy he could go all 4 years. But then he could get a bad hit and be done after 1 snap.
Wif, there’s a dunks every 300 yards
In my town alone there are probably ten of them
NPI, there is nothing to substantiate the rumors about still tagging KC
Zero worries on that
It strikes me as utterly hilarious that the Washington Redskins, relative to the notion they might try to pull off some sort of sign-and-trade with/for Kirk Cousins, are efforting to show how strategic they are now, when they have been shitting the bed for the last 2 years (some say 3) when dealing with Kirk.
It’s so “Redskins Front Office” for this team to think they can still manage to pull off some incredible deal for a 1st or a 2nd round pick and maybe a 3rd (we gave a 3rd and a starter for ASmith).
S T U P I D
Redskins need to move on, take their medicine and do NOT tag Kirk in any form or fashion because if Kirk does not sign his tag, we cannot do a cot damn thing in free agency because at least 28 million would be tied up.
If this team dicks around trying shit like this and we lose Zack Brown………..I’m buying a fucking pitchfork and I’ll be at Ashburn HQ and I won’t be wearing a mask (Want BA to see a man with better hair). Book that shit.
any talk of getting anything for kirk is just pipe dreams and ass-covering. what a total mishandling of the situation by the skins.
Panicked
I’ll be right there with you. This franchise is like that family member who just won’t get their shit together. At some point you gotta slap em around
that’s not how it would work. it would all be worked out before Free Agency or he doesn’t get tagged, or they revoke the tag
1. Kirk gets to negotiate (with permission) early, before more dominoes start to fall
2. The Redskins get some minor compensation, but prob not much more than a hypothetical compensatory pick they’d get if they did almost nothing in FA but lose Kirk. The value that some club would find in getting this done before FA in the same way the Skins did with KC for Smith.
Just when I thought the Front Office couldn’t get any dumber, they go and do something like this… AND totally redeem themselves!
Again, there is absolutely no incentive for KC to do this. If he gets tagged, he signs it and completely fucks the Redskins.
Deal would have to be worked out BEFORE he is tagged, and no way that’s going to happen; KC wants to hit FA and this could limit his potential offers.
I like dunkin donuts coffee better than starbucks
i like krispy kreme doughnuts better than dunkin donuts doughnuts.
i have family up in the boston area. there is a dunkin donuts store every 500 yards, it seems.
coffee good for you
donuts: worse than Hitler smoking 3 packs a day while injecting methamphetamine
They put pancake syrup in it.
Wawa
Dunkin
7/11
Exxon
Office coffee maker
Starbucks
You forgot poison. Poison before Starbucks
what a disappointing winter, so far.
Brian@skinsgo46. On twitter..
This dude was the biggest Kirk fan I know of (non media). He is ripping Kirk and NBCredskins etc last nite and this am. Funny.
Replies to Kirk… Why not hometown discount ?? Lol
Says Kirk is ‘all lies’…lol this dude is a trip.
“Alex isnt going to do jack in 4 years”. Lol
Dude is on a tear….Lol
Gotta get Mayfield for this fan…!
7th round: Tanner Lee
Kirk wasnt LTD’d for a reason…lol
Big trades still to come too ! Lol
who is “kirk”?
An intergalactic pussy slayer
The guy Mayfield replacing….
So GIFs don’t work as avatars
https://goo.gl/images/bRWUim
Happy Tuesday!
Hpy Hpy
Heyooo
Here’s to a better day than whatever that nonsense was yesterday
And now….coffee
https://alejandrameetsalyx.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/coffee.gif
Night kids
Night!
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My favorite:
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She’s a trip. Must have 200 of those whack cowboy hats.
Looks like someone baked a cake on her face she wears so much makeup
Non partisan question…
what is wrong with Schiff’s eyes? He always looks like he’s about go on a psychopathic rampage
His head looks to his body is blowing up a balloon.
Eyes… after everytime he blinks they go to full open crazy mode.
Guess I’ve been distracted by his big balloon head.
https://www.redstate.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/schiff-bug-eyes-620×566.jpg
AAAAAAAAHHHH!!!!
And then there’s….
http://conservative101.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Screen-Shot-2018-01-30-at-4.20.40-PM-730×480.png
That hair… does he do his own barbering?
Kinda like Hillary I think: no matter what he does….
https://www.google.com/search?q=trey+gowdy&newwindow=1&rlz=1C1BLWB_enUS534US534&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjahJiYuZDZAhWPmlkKHYDzBXIQ_AUIDCgD&biw=1710&bih=1482
Yea… I don’t get it. I mean, are you married? Does your wife LET you go out of the house like that?
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2c16b7ead3ba7f66cec52cb39eed66954a1e1b491b250de52c591ce05f8449cb.jpg
I think it’s not just the eyes but the eye brows that are a factor. Also looks like very shallow eye sockets.
Asian stocks down sharply. Not like that’s any surprise.
Dow futures currently at 23352, and continuing to fall
Futures down pretty sharply along with it
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/761ec8d0fbaa744959e2a01fa1e7a74f309afc44e3efbd4b4a4b87fc0172c3c2.png
Daily Chart of the Dow. Each bar represents one day.
Stocks take the stairs going up, and the elevator going down…
Here you go D_C:
Tranny (or trannie) is a derogatory and offensive slang term for a transgender, transsexual, transvestite, or cross-dressing person.[1][2] During the early 2010s, there was confusion and debate over whether the term was a pejorative, or was still considered acceptable, or even a reappropriated term of unity and pride. By 2017, the word was banned by several major media stylebooks and considered hate speech by Facebook.
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I have a few friends that live this…er… for lack of a better term… lifestyle… mostly they think this is akin to calling a gay persona F%$ or a Black person the N word. Black people can call each other the N word… others can’t. Apparently it’s the same in the trans-world
https://medium.com/queer-life/please-dont-say-tranny-6c9e3263a9ad
Okay, good to know. I didn’t realize it was considered offensive.
Besides, I think trans people would find it even more offensive to know that you are comparing them to Ann Coulture
RIP
John Mahoney, beloved dad Martin Crane on ‘Frasier,’ dies at 77
https://youtu.be/f8T0CC8hajU
https://youtu.be/sYDigVAIm4Q
https://youtu.be/mmrkeptaLgQ
https://youtu.be/yK8a5bDIeK4
Slow night
Higson (Wolfpack) yellow card for “swinging arm”, punching a ball carrier in the face with your forearm.
https://pics.me.me/ohhh-so-this-is-yellow-card-3083550.png
https://www.ruck.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/james-haskell-yellow-card-rugby-union-england_3423810.jpg
Ticky tack call (what refs would call on Redskins)
http://www.smh.com.au/cqstatic/ghzjdc/nhbsy.gif
Actual penalty (what refs would over look vs. Redskins)
https://m0.sportsjoe.ie/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/09211234/Hartley-OBrien.gif
I’d like to see what happened at the end of that play… two of those big boys in yellow clearly saw that hit.
That’s Dylan Hartley (England), he got a red card (ejected) and a six week suspension for that. Kinda like that Cincy linebacker, he’s got a history. Been carried off on a stretcher himself after getting KO’d when someone revenged one of his hits.
I see nothing here…..
Let them play.
https://usatftw.files.wordpress.com/2016/07/eu0vf3f.gif
That’s soccer
…and gay
They figh’n they figh’n!
WTF
WTF
FTW
AYE
Hey Buck….hey..hey..hey Buck
Leigh Centurions vs. Toronto Wolfpack
I don’t know shit about these two teams but they evidently hate each other. Very chippy. Should be a good match.
Centurions up early with two tries and kicks 12 – nil
Different_Cat No Punt Intended • an hour ago
She looks like a Tranny, which is why NPI is attracted to her.
____________________
Tranny…
Just remember, minority groups, this is how liberals ACTUALLY see you until voting season.
Ooooooo
Aaaaaaaah
Ooooooo
Ahhhhh!
Ooooooo
….let-me-clear-my-throat!
BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOMMMMMMMM
When I say ooo, you say ahhhhh…..
Slang for transvestite. So?
Tranny (or trannie) is a derogatory and offensive slang term for a transgender, transsexual, transvestite, or cross-dressing person.[1][2] During the early 2010s, there was confusion and debate over whether the term was a pejorative, or was still considered acceptable, or even a reappropriated term of unity and pride. By 2017, the word was banned by several major media stylebooks and considered hate speech by Facebook.
Ann Coulter looks like Nick Foles.
She is part human part giraffe
Blubblubbblubblubbloogahblubblahblahblahblah
yes, I agree
I ordered a yoga ball and it’s all your fault!
DILLY DILLY!
Dilly Dilly
Philly Philly!
https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/960664146575527937
Just read that VTech’s Tremaine Edmunds is only 19 years old. Likely top 10 pick.
19? And already eligible? Cool
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The #Raiders have released CB David Amerson, who signed a 4-year, $38M extension before the 2016 season. He earned almost $13M of it.
https://twitter.com/deshaunwatson/status/960607759581540353
All in for Day 1!
Watson is so much better and so different than Griffin it’s night and day.
He hasn’t even played half a season so far.
Wait and see, you might want to tear that Bobby Griffin poster down off the wall to make room for Watson
I like him a lot. But … 7 games.
You are correct about that but Watson can actually read a defense
Payne getting popular for us
Site #13
ESPN – Kiper Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma
nfl.com – Jeremiah Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma
B/R – Roling Calvin Ridley, WR, Alabama
Justin Rogers Calvin Ridley, WR, Alabama
Landof10.com Calvin Ridley, WR, Alabama
B/R – Miller Da’Ron Payne, DT, Alabama
Sports Day Da’Ron Payne, DT, Alabama
nfldraftscout.com – Brugler Da’Ron Payne, DT, Alabama
SB Nation – Clintclearwater Da’Ron Payne, DT, Alabama
SBNation – Kadar Da’Ron Payne, DT, Alabama
Walter Football Da’Ron Payne, DT, Alabama
B/R – Sobleski Derwin James, S, Florida State
Draft Wire Derwin James, S, Florida State
Pro Football Focus James Washington, WR, Oklahoma State
nfl.com – Brooks Josh Allen, QB, Wyoming
Hogs Haven – Tyler Roquan Smith, ILB, Georgia
Sporting News Roquan Smith, ILB, Georgia
CBS Sports Tremaine Edmunds, OLB, Virginia Tech
San Diego Union-Tribune Tremaine Edmunds, OLB, Virginia Tech
B/R – McCrystal Vita Vea, DT, Washington
nfl.com – Zierlein Vita Vea, DT, Washington
Ridley?!? Not in a thousand years at 13. Now, if James is there, that would be interesting.
Like the concept, need to date when they made these calls
https://twitter.com/SethAMandel/status/960368077887205377
HA!
I met her at Clyde’s a few years back. Made her laugh during a brief exchange. God she is stunning.
AHAHAHAHA!!!!
https://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/ann-coulter-1280×720.jpg
So, which is it D_C?
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4102/5604306521_8955e66cdc.jpg
She looks like a Tranny, which is why NPI is attracted to her.
You are a sad excuse for a male. I bet your wife is a total dog.
Seriously, I’ve never seen another woman with an Adam’s Apple.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/07/17/05/4267E61100000578-0-image-a-1_1500264279521.jpg
That’s as bad as you can find of her millions of photos?
You are so struggling.
Dude, she’s fucking hideous.
https://nyppagesix.files.wordpress.com/2017/08/ann-coulter.jpg?quality=90&strip=all
Show me those Hillary pictures you beat your pathetic nub to.
It’s a long wait between here and the last of August .
HTTRsince65 • an hour ago
So I’m looking forward to seeing how Alex Smith is going to get us where we need to be And again I said earlier I don’t care if it was flounder at quarterback as long as he wins. Build the lines build the lines build the lines at a stud running back maybe in free agency if we can’t draft one of the top ones. HTTR!
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I like the sound of that.
Can you hit the fade route ?
Flounder!!! ELECTRIFYING!!!!!!!!!!!!
Raiders Cut David Amerson
Hey, we happen to have a spot open at CB…
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Where at Twitter is all the dust up taking place ?
What dust up?
IDK , read some bits and pieces about an earlier twitter feud. You were front and center .
You won’t find it… Kelly deleted it and blocked me. It really wasn’t even much of a dust up.
What’s ‘Twitter’?
I think it has something to do with the interweb
From what I can tell, it’s a social media tool used by tools to prove they’re a tool.
I know a the twitters, okay
Nick Fairley cut
Missed the year with injury, didn’t he?
Yea… heart condition
Oooo, that doesn’t sound very tempting.
Sure doesn’t… it’s actually why they cut him
Oooohhhh… David Amerson was just cut
Cue d_c and his stats…
He’s better than Norman.
– D_C
Ha! I was the first one to say he wasn’t very good when he was still with the Redskins. Y’all were like, “dude, you crazy!” lol
Who is this “y’all” you speak of? He’s one of the guys I always said was junk… him, Laron Landry, and Rambo
Not y’all I guess. I remember bickering with Kelly about him and I don’t recall anyone else saying he was trash.
Junk… pure garbage… and a whiner
Not surprising . New sheriff in town.
That and he’s junk
So I’m looking forward to seeing how Alex Smith is going to get us where we need to be And again I said earlier I don’t care if it was flounder at quarterback as long as he wins. Build the lines build the lines build the lines at a stud running back maybe in free agency if we can’t draft one of the top ones. HTTR!
outside of Le’Veon Bell, who I don’t think the Steelers let go, do you consider to a stud RB available in FA?
IMHO you stand a better chance or getting a stud OL or WR than a RB in FA
And most NFL UFA RB’s that are/were any good will be high mileage. I’d much prefer drafting RB’s.
We’ve done a great job of that
LOL.
I think they need to spend a high draft pick on a RB. I agree that they probably won’t find one good enough in free agency.
Probably
Isn’t Adrian Peterson available…
click…click… click…
Ha ha! You fool! You fell victim to one of the classic blunders – the most famous of which is “never get involved in a land war in Asia” – but only slightly less well-known is this: “Never go in against Different_Cat when math is on the line”! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
I can vividly envision what that twerp D_C is like in person when he is getting owned and can’t scramble to google a hand-picked link or blurb that serves only to perpetuate his own narrative and simply stares at you for a full 3 seconds before saying, “NUH UHHHHHHHHHHHH!”
Book that shit.
NPI ready for his workout:
https://www.techtalk.gfi.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/nerd-buff.jpg
wow today’s volume was 714,449,396 almost double the normal daily volume, everything is running a little late today
but hey we made $14m+ today
Who’s this “we” you speak of
company where I work
Mr. Steve! D_C isn’t listening!
SCamp Different_Cat • 7 minutes ago
111.11111111% Isn’t 150%
It’s significantly less
Here, try this…
https://percentagecalculato…
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Let’s at least get the facts straight, here.
The Dow hit a low of about 6,600 in March of 2009. On Obama’s last day in office it was at 19,800. So it increased 19,800 – 6600 = 13,200 points. That is an increase of exactly 200%. If you start from Obama’s first day, instead of the market low, then it’s about 150%.
The discussion was, and always has been, since the day Trump was elected. When you move the goalpost to benefit your guy… you lose credibility in your argument.
Having said that… I’ve lost interest
You seem to have been having a separate discussion from everyone else, because the rest of us were comparing Trump’s economic performance to Obama’s.
*Yawn*
Is it dinner time yet?
Translation: I made a fool of myself and it’s so boring.
Since you insist on persisting… here is your comment that started it. Clearly you were referring to the stock market… I mean, when your words are right there it’s not hard to keep your story straight
Different_Cat • an hour ago
1,175 points, for a one-day drop of 4.6%. Seeing as how often Trump has taken credit for market highs, I’m sure he’ll be apologizing for this massive drop.
Yep, that’s how it started. And then it went on from there, with NPI claiming that Trump was responsible for this remarkable turnaround, and me pointing out that the turnaround started 9 years ago.
Nice try… every discussion was about points and percentages of the stock market…
You can try to change the narrative… but it’s right there in black and white
Or in this case Burgundy and White
Yes, still is. But not just under Trump. I don’t even know how you could pretend it was.
I never made the argument that there was no growth under Obama… that was NPI. I gave Obama credit for 111.111% Stock market growth from the time he was inaugurated until Trump was. That’s growth. I’m not a denyer
Talk about how the economy grew at such a slow rate during those 8 years that we were literally just outside the threshold of a recession.
Can you?
I could, if it were true, but obviously it isn’t true. GDP growth has been pretty healthy since the economy bottomed out in 2008/9.
Recent results: https://www.bea.gov/newsreleases/national/gdp/gdp_glance.htm
You do not start with a base of 6,600. When he took office, the DOW was at 8,000. So the marked goes down drastically in his first couple months and you just ignore that?
I mentioned both landmarks, although I think it would be extremely unfair to credit Obama with the tail end of the market crash that he inherited. Just like it’s unfair to credit Trump with the bull market that HE inherited.
Just let it go… it’s a typical D_C attempt to make his guy look as good as possible, however transparently, while making anyone backed by the right look as bad as possible.
See… told you. All bad things right, all good things left.
Nope, I actually started out with the bigger number, when I said that the markets were up 150% from Obama’s inauguration. Then I added that it’s 200% from the market low. And you seemingly pulling numbers out of thin air for no apparent reason.
AHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!!!
My reaction too! 111.111111% BWHAHAHAHA!!!
I know… you think 9000-19000 is 250%. Pretty funny indeed.
Ah, now you’re picking on the equivalent of a typo, so you know it’s not going well.
Yea… sure thing D_C.
Typo?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
– Math
We just put this out on Twitter, but I’ll say it here, too. Now that the season is over, we’d like to thank everyone who listened to us, read our material, or otherwise supported The Hog Sty – it was a great year for us, and that includes you guys here in the comment section. “Clickbait” aside, having these posts with all of these comments helps us, too.
That having been said, some of you guys, generally, please try harder to limit the personal insults. Like we said before, this is a free forum where cursing is welcome, and discussion of any topic at all is welcome, but please try to limit the insults. Not just for touchy-feely reasons, but also because we want outsiders who read this stuff not to think that this is the wild, wild west here. So help us out, please.
Mea Culpa mi hermano
Why don’t you just tell people to quit with the political whining?
Every.
Single.
Fucking.
Day.
Especially the delusional crap; which is most of it anyway.
If it continues to be bad, we’ll do something about it. We made a decision not to censor ideas, but if we get tired of it, we’ll re-evaluate. I don’t monitor this thing all the time, obviously, and neither does Alex, Sean, or Jamual, but I personally do get tired of heating political talk on a football site. Some boards like ours prohibit political talk for that reason.
So let it go for awhile and we’ll see.
(Alex does… and Twitter)
It’s mostly me on Twitter during the week. Not exclusively, but primarily.
Secretly I think you enjoy hearing the Trump whiners. I think it makes you grin to yourself…
…and that’s okay
No problem, we will keep this place rocking!
https://media.giphy.com/media/11y73dl7ixVR3G/giphy.gif
Lovely image.
When Spiderman swallows bubble gum?
Roger that.
I think the only person I’ve personally insulted on here is Greg, and FWIW, the deal had just broke and I was having a high flow day.
Anybody else that feels I have insulted them is obviously a bandwagoneer and is not trustworthy.
PS, Greg…. I’m so sorry for calling you that terrible name. Please find it in your heart to forgive me.
Your friend, BC
They make pads for those high flow days
I was in a bind, ok!!!!!
That’ll do it
I’ll keep that in mind the next time somebody attempts to belittle me over a basic FB post . Not making any promises .
Draft order as known so far
1 Browns 0-16
2 Giants 3-13
3 Colts 4-12
4 Browns (from Texans) 4-12
5 Broncos 5-11
6 Jets 5-11
7 Buccaneers 5-11
8 Bears 5-11
9 or 10 49ers 6-10 (coin flip)
9 or 10 Raiders 6-10 (coin flip)
11 Dolphins 6-10
12 Bengals 7-9
13 Washington 7-9
14 Packers 7-9
15 Cardinals 8-8
16 Ravens 9-7
17 Chargers 9-7
18 Seahawks 9-7
19 Cowboys 9-7
20 Lions 9-7
21 Bills 9-7
22 Bills (from Chiefs) 9-7
23 Rams 11-5
24 Panthers 11-5
25 Titans 9-7
26 Falcons 10-6
27 Saints 11-5
28 Steelers 13-3
29 Jaguars 10-6
30 Vikings 13-3
31 Patriots 13-3
32 Eagles 13-3
Who is Math and is he worth taking at 13?
For someone he’s worth taking first overall.
Is he 111% better than the next guy?
Nope… 250% better
Damn, I say we get him
Don’t forget the compound interest.
Bengals, Bills, Browns, Cardinals, Chargers, Falcons, Jags, Lions, Panthers, Texans, Titans and Vikings
still have not won a Super Bowl
now known as the Unlucky Dozen
Yup, and the NFC East is the first division to have each team with at least one Lombardi Trophy
Unless you count Arizona who was part of the NFC East for years…
yea, not counting the original 3 divisions. but that is true
I so hope the Pats fire Bill Bellichick… and Dan Snyder swoops in
Or they make a run at Cousins.
this was last time Brady/NE goes to the Super Bowl. Gronk might retire, both D/O Coordinators are leaving, traded away Jimmy G., Malcom Butler is gone. Sure they have survived these kinds of things before, but I believe their ju-ju has finally run out.
McDaniels renegged on Indy. Staying in NE.
SHOCKING!!!!
Probably been promised the the HC gig when it becomes available (some short timeframe – I would think 2 years at the most).
So maybe then Belichick will get fired and McDaniels will take over?
Not sure its this year. My guess is that within two years.
That Butler story is strange. The Patriot way I guess but to wait until just before game time is pretty cold. Especially weird as they practiced with him on defense leading up to the game.
AustinSkin • an hour ago
Trump is rambling about the economy, and the Dow has dropped as much as 800 points
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1,175 points, for a one-day drop of 4.6%. Seeing as how often Trump has taken credit for market highs, I’m sure he’ll be apologizing for this massive drop.
The real question is…
does he take credit for Alex Smith coming to DC?
He will trade the Redskins for Alex Smith when he is the owner of the XFL’s expansion Washington America-F-Ya’s in 2020.
You sure that’s the name?
I’m pretty sure it’s the DC Mexican Walls
Apologize for all of the reaping of profits?
How do the last 12 months look compared to when Obama had us hovering just outside the threshold of a recession for 8 years?
Apologize for the huge one-day drop. You know, since he claims to be responsible for the markets.
How does Trump’s one year look compared to Obama’s 8, economically? It looks very much like a natural extension of a sustained stock market and employment recovery that started in 2009. Markets accelerated a wee bit above the linear regression line, probably in anticipation of the tax cuts, but that’s a blip relatively speaking.
And the Rams’ success this season was because of Jeff Fisher.
God you’re dumb.
You really are an idiot if you buy into any of this. Coaches obviously have a very tight relationship to wins and losses while they are in control. Presidents have very little impact on stock markets in general, and almost no impact over the short term. Economics 1 (that much earlier than Economics 101).
This one did when he was elected based on what he promised to do and then it took off like a rocket when he slashed the corporate tax rate and started killing off business choking regulations.
You actually know this, you just don’t want to believe it.
Again, the reality is that markets have been rising sharply since March of 2009. I’ll credit Trump with a slight uptick due to the tax giveaway, but the continued rise is essentially a result of global economic expansion. How do we know this? Foreign markets are rising at about the same rate as ours.
You are laughably insane.
I mean, how do you make it through a day without killing yourself?
Actually, foreign markets have been performing better than the US markets.
I know, but I didn’t want to cause someone’s tiny mind to short circuit.
Well… it’s more than a 1 day huge drop…
…but the market is still up substantially since he took office.
Also, market was up about 10,000 from the time Obama got elected until Trump did…
It’s up half that in just over one year since Trump was elected.
The total point increase is meaningless. It’s the percentage increase that matters. Markets were up about 250% under Obama. So far under Trump it’s about 25%.
D_C and math and shit.
Freaking dunce.
I’ve always said anyone can cherry pick a stat to fit their narrative.
Thanks for proving that
To be fair, just picking whole numbers without a percentage relationship is just cherry picking another stat.
Indeed it is
Here’s a question for you… what percentage increase would you assign going from 9000-19000?
Slightly over 100%….
Oh… so not 250% as D_C claimed?
Forgive me if I don’t buy his narrative
My bad, it was actually at 150% increase — not 250% — between the 2009 market low and the high in January 2017 when Obama left office. Which is still 6X the increase that we’ve experienced under Trump.
You and math and shit.
Can’t deny it.
…In 8 x the amount of time
Yes, absolutely. And if markets keep rising like they have been for the next 3 years — let alone 7 years if Trump is reelected … it will be quite astonishing.
God help us…
You do not start at the market low in 2009 IF that low came AFTER he took office. You start on the day he was inaugurated (which does work out to 150%).
Obama was inaugurated in January 2009 and the market was tanking. It hit its low in March 2009 at around 6450.
Dude, so the market tanked while he was in office and he gets credit for that percentage rise?
No. Markets closed at about 8,000 on his inauguration date. That’s your starting base.
The start for this argument was “when The Donald got elected.” You stated it yourself the day he was elected. You screamed “GET OUT OF THE MARKET NOW. DONALD IS GONNA TANK IT.”
Can’t change the start point for your guy as the “low point” if they can’t change the end point for their guy.
Fair enough. For the sake of everyone, I’m glad we have seen the economy chug in the right direction for the past 9 years. And this little blip doesn’t concern me.
Just outside a recession for the last 8 years.
I mean, you understand that right?
It shouldn’t concern anyone… corrections are a normal course of business. Largest single day drop point wise.. barely top 10 percentage wise… if even that
It will be interesting to see how the Asian markets react tonight. Usually, when Wall Street sneezes, Asia catches a cold. There could be continued selling pressure until the cycle is exhausted.
It’s completely meaningless to cite raw increases without considering rate of increase. Literally no one who knows anything about markets would do that if they weren’t trying to be deceptive.
It’s 250% right?
Or are you retarded?
He’s retarded but he can’t count to potato.
So even the retards own him.
Even using the most generous numbers, started at about 8,000; rose to about 19,800. Almost a $150% increase.
That’s close to 250% right?
Also, an average person with a 401 K is looking at his account and is going… huh, I made $10000 in 8 years… that’s pretty nice.
Then I made $5000 in one year… that’s REALLY nice.
Use whatever stat you want… just get it right.
Okay, let’s look at it the way it is, instead of you just pulling numbers out of your butt.
If you had 10k in the market in March 2009 then it was worth about $25K when Obama left office.
If you started with the same $10K when Trump took over, it’s worth about $12.5K now.
So, let’s do it your way… but use actual real numbers. If you had $10,000 in the market when Obama was elected… after 8 years you would have $21,111. If you had $10,000 when Trump was elected, after 8 years you would have $30,000
No, it’s 150%, but according to some retards percentage gain doesn’t actually matter.
So it’s not 250%?
Okay… cause you said it’s 250%
(and it’s not %150 either… it’s less)
math
Who?
^ Superb Owl?
Yes, I corrected myself. And it was 150%, mas o menos a few percent.
111.11111111% Isn’t 150%
It’s significantly less
Here, try this…
https://percentagecalculator.net/
You proved it yourself, SCamp. I put it in proper context. Or maybe you just don’t understand how markets work, I don’t know.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ea1a06a25b7c0bab27d186f9b646601ac4085575fa1f0fe009570c1497c47a0e.jpg
Last 2 Super Bowls have been pretty damn good.
Super even!
Almost as good as a Superb Owl.
The newest and oldest are self explanatory. How and under what criteria are the “Best” determined?
Probably most “likes”
That’s what I thought until I looked and saw a number of “best” with 1 ‘like’
Likes are harder to come by here than at WaPo.. no drive by’s… no self likers
There are several posters up here that could really use a blow job.
You mean there aren’t posters that could use a blowjob?
Maybe some could use one more than others is a better way to phrase (of course we could all use them, but for some, I think it may be a medical necessity).
Chuckle
As long as you’re offering, at least wear a wig or something.
I will pay Dez’s Mom her $1.00 fee to service you, Austin.
She charges that much? RIP OFF!
Its Austin. Wouldn’t you charge more than your regular rate to do Austin? Probably take at least 20 minutes just to find it.
Ha!
They give Rx for that now?
Did someone call for me?
-Russini
Not me. Because… early lunch, kids in pre school.
TMI if I go further.
You jacked one while watching the Grand Tour?
You came home and your wife wasn’t expecting you… neither was the mailman?
Sneaking up on my wife at home like…
https://media.giphy.com/media/12AClbOTVSAQ9y/giphy.gif
she hears the caaalll of the wild, every once in a while…
Good day to think about putting cash into play
i think water is wet, and weighs 1 gram per cubic centimeter.
somewhere, yes
Trump called Smith ‘sneaky Smith’ in the fireplace ad. Chuckles
was that cousins/”trump” fireplace commercial as awful for you as it was for me?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BiWtH0HywY&feature=youtu.be
No, it was a commercial
Would you stop
so, you thought it was well-done?
Would it have made a difference if it was an Obama look alike?
not a bit. love me some kirk cousins, but man, the guy has no charisma.
It’s a commercial
Sorry that you are just so dainty about both KC and Trump
Try and be a man at some point in your life and not be so sensitive and easily bruised
My gosh
Golly jeepers .
it is plainly a horrible commercial. sorry you can’t see that. were you mesmerized by those old joe jacoby big screen tv commercials?
WHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
what’s the matter?
He saw the commercial, too!
You always crying about something
how in the hell does me making fun of a terrible commercial turn into a chance to insult me.?
you really have an obsession, dare i say “fixation”, with me. it’s kinda funny and yet, sad.
WWHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!
Its a horrible commercial, but not because its KC/Trump. It just sucks.
Low rent is what i call it.
You want high production?
https://youtu.be/HeXHXoNPZj4
“Call collect”. Haha
The year I graduated HS….ugh….
Yes. It’s amazing how the quality of those two adds is very similar.
WTF is that? Hilarious
So… should we draft BPA or draft based on poistion of need?
BPA in PON always
I’d like to know why Pederson can roll with Suds as number two but Gruden didn’t . Just curious .
Suds was number three….
I know . I was referring to post Wentz . They could have brought in a guy with some experience .
One play away from having a guy with no experience in the playoffs/super bowl . Its an easy thing to understand if you have any common sense .
Has Suds even played a meaningful snap in a regular season game yet?
No
That’s what I thought. Things could’ve gotten real interesting for Philly if Foles got hurt. Pederson seems to know what he’s doing though. I’ll be curious to see how/if Suds develops down the road.
That was my point. Not hard to grasp.
unless you’re a know it all douchbag from Massachusetts, then it gets confusing for you .
You do realize that suds was #3 until CWentz got hurt right
Tell me you understand that
NPI, is that you?
I understand you are a arrogant dickhead .
Trump is rambling about the economy, and the Dow has dropped as much as 800 points while he is speaking.
the Dow isn’t necessarily a great indicator of the economy, but it can be about certain parts of it; the stock market can be wildly successful selling things made in China to entities in China, as one example
The on the field Officials sure let ’em play, which was really nice. Wish they’d call every game similarly. Hopefully the ‘catch/no catch’ rule as it’s currently written will be tossed into the fireplace this off-season.
It will be.
BTW wish I knew someone with a fireplace… weird that I don’t.
I’d love to do a short hog sty video creating the scene of Goodell tossing the catch rule into the fire.
there are fireplaces out in the sleepy hollow part of falls church. just saying.
Paid a boatload for Smith . Get him some help . A QB can wait .
Not even close
We paid a boatload for RG
70 million guaranteed plus Fuller = boatload .
Agree to disagree
I guess everything pales in comparison to RG . I agree with you on that
a lot sites will be changing their Redskins QB mock pick over the next week or so
the ones I have seen talking about Redskins are now think defense with #13 pick
DL/RB/WR/G are probably our top needs, ILB (depending on brown) S, CB come second.
Hogan knocked too the ground by Eagles defender 20 plus yards down the middle of the field . Never saw that yesterday . That would have been huge if called .
yep illegal contact penalty on last play that was not called
He knocked him off his feet .
I feel so sad that the Pats got the short end of the referee calling yesterday
boo-hoo boo-hoo
HA! suck it Bill
yeah , hard to have any sympathy .
Whatcha gonna doooooooooooo……when Hogan comes after youuuuuuuuu BROTHER!
So hypothetically, now that we have Smith, what would you do someone like Rosen or Darnold somehow fell to 13? A QB whom most seem to say should be a good NFL talent. Do you draft a long term franchise QB, knowing you can safely bench him for 2 years now?
Hard to pass up
That would be hard to pass on, depends on Jay.
Trade back for more picks. Get a stud DT and OG
That’s what they need before anything else .
Only ask because I just did a mock draft and that was exactly what happened. I doubt it could ever happen in the real world. But is it crazy to say I’d take Rosen even with other needs?
I wouldn’t do it.
This year, I’d pass in favor of the best player who’s available at a position of need other than QB.
Tough one, I understand both sides obviously, but I think if someone like that’s there at QB, too hard to pass up. Worst case you trade Smith in 2018.
^ Good point.
Round 1 Pick 15 (ARI): Derwin James, SS/FS, Florida State (A+)
Round 2 Pick 12: Harrison Phillips, DT, Stanford (B)
Round 2 Pick 15 (ARI): Will Hernandez, OG, Texas-El Paso (A-)
Round 4 Pick 13: Jaylen Samuels, RB/WR, North Carolina State (A)
Round 5 Pick 12: Deatrick Nichols, CB, South Florida (A)
Round 6 Pick 14: B.J. Hill, DT, North Carolina State (A+)
Round 7 Pick 13: Bryce Bobo, WR, Colorado (A+)
Round 7 Pick 23: Kyle Lauletta, QB, Richmond (B-)
That would be a nice scenario. A couple of teams would be happy to trade up of either of those guys are at 13, especially Rosen.
I’d probably pass on a QB in the first round tempting as that may be. They have enough other holes to fill.
This is pretty weird.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EP_2NXe0_1g
More than a little bit.
Brady has a semi.
It’s a little much.
Uncomfortable….
that’s what you get from marrying a European board, everyone ends up all huggy/kissy
totally Un-American
Slapshot, the owner scene at the end………..
I mean, look I remember when I was a little kid I went to give my dad a kiss on the cheek and accidentally hit his mouth.
But we are talking 3-4 year old, not 11, and clearly using tongue.
And his kid wiped his mouth with his shirt afterwards, looking awkward.
Creepy indeed.
– Woody Allen
I’m not sure how the District of Columbia really fits into things anymore.
================================================
it’s the large square shaped blight that people avoid driving thru at all costs and it’s been that way since about 1967
although Alex is trying to fix that
I’m not trying to fix the driving aspect. If anything I want to blow up all the bridges crossing the Potomac.
you’re trying to unblight DC
move people in NoVa would agree on blowing up the bridges
DC’s more or less unblighted at this point. It’s so unblighted that making 6 figures and still “poor”
I live in a bad neighborhood, only 5 of my neighbors have Lexus’es.
We talk about them moving the SB back to MLK weekend, what about going 2 weeks later and having it on President’s Day Weekend?
I’d be good with that. Except its two weekends….
I realized that and changed it. yes 2 weekends later.
i don’t like the 2 week break. totally disrupts the teams’ rhythm. are you proposing a 3 week break?
No moving the schedule so that they always finish on a 3 day weekend.
gee if you added 2 games and another bye week…
Yeah 18 game schedule and BOOM it fits perfect.
It’s perfect for everyone except the NFL, the TV networks, the advertisers, and the players.
It will be fine.
No it won’t, which is why it isn’t.
The NFL also doesn’t want the Super Bowl on a Sunday of a three day weekend. That would affect ratings, too.
I don’t know if this was [posted yet but a new version of bad lip reading… with lots of Redskins in it. So damn funny:
http://www.redskins.com/news/blog/article-1/2018-NFL-Bad-Lip-Reading-Morgan-Moses-Is-Saw-Gerrera/6aa220f8-b417-4fe0-9cc3-1c53e16fe051
Thanks for posting this!
LMAO
fuccing hilarious
Edwin Jackson the Colts lb was hit and killed by a twice deported illegall immigrant who was also drunk at the time of the crash
SMH
Just reading the story. Cop ran over one of the victims too when reporting to the scene. Just a clusterfluck. Drunk drivers, worst people in America.
Illegal immigrant drunk drivers
All drunk drivers. Illegal, legal, men, women, black, white. I say citizen or not we should deport em all if they drink n drive.
my family in law enforcement says two biggest ethic categories for drunk drivers are
1. Latino Males
2. White Females
if you pull either over after midnight chances are they are drunk
So if you’re looking to get laid….
ethnic
Funny that Foles left MSU when Cousins took his job and now, last night, it’s Foles taking money from Kirk’s pocket.
Nah…if I was the Eagles, I would trade Foles while he as maximum value. I hear they really like Sudfeld.
Sure… keep the benchwarmer over a guy that just won a Superbowl… makes perfect sense
But Foles is not going to play once Wentz gets healthy.
Sure… but Sudfeld is going to put you behind by losing every game he starts.
Buy low, sell high
selling high is a mistake. I once sold my favorite disc man for a bag of doritos and oreo cookies.
What flavor were the doritos?
cool ranch
Even trade
If it was a diskman were there even “flavors” back then?
just two, regular and cool ranch
High price, not high on hippie lettuce
By the way… this is very funny
Yes, it’s most excellent.
The Eagles cannot deal Foles because there is no way Wentz is ready for week 1. Wentz might well start 2018 on the PUP list. Foles stays in Philly.
I mean RGIII got hurt later came back by week 1.
It ruined his career, but would that be so bad for the Eagles, who would have another month with Wentz?
That’s why they would never do that nor does Wentz feel the need to go all in for week 1 because of his fear of Suds winning in his absence.
How do we talk him into it then?
He would have to become ultra-self-centered while also being paranoid overnight.
but if the price is right..
Prolly so. But the Eagles are ~$9M over now, Foles is ~$7M of it. They need to clear at least $15M.
You know, if Bridgewater lingers in FA, why not? I mean, he might be a little on the pricey side for a backup, but maybe …
nah
Colt, baby!
No. He would be good with a Super Bowl caliber defense, a top RB who will be coming back next year, a badass TE and weapons on the outside.
Sound familiar?
Yes
-Every team ever
Except the Patriots then, right?
Yeah, nah
Bridgewater is the big boom or bust candidate from the list. Dude nearly lost his leg. But he was showing to be a very rock solid QB before that.
February is Black History Month. I wouldn’t be opposed to MLK day being moved to Super Bowl Monday.
I’m black history now…. (well, technically, cornball, but black history, nonetheless).
-RGIII
“I HAVE A GLEAM!”
– Marty
He was born January 15, get over it.
When was Jesus born again?
April……ish
So…..lol
Im comfortable moving mlk day then 😁
So, hell. That’s got nothing to do with it. Explain your theory, I’m all ears.
Im just poking fun BC
I know, but to try and piggyback the Superbowl with MLK’s birthday is disrespectful, IMO. Sounds like a DirecTV bundle for Christ’s sake.
HA!
Lo siento mi amigo
no hay problema, todo es suave
But they would be 2 different days. separated by the space time continuum.
Sunday-Football
Monday-Freedom
The point is, you aren’t gonna move MLK day for the benefit of the NFL, that dog won’t hunt.
No you would have to convince the NFL to change it, hard to do.
The half the players would cry that the NFL just disrespected MLK… they wouldn’t want to play on that day…
…and they wouldn’t be far from right.
They own Sunday, for God’s sake.
“The NFL owns a day of the week. The same day the Church used to own. Now it’s theirs.”
I thought it was August/September.
It wasn’t December 25th
you could rename it Civil Rights Super Celebration Rainbow Day
Cousins, Keenum, Foles, Bradford, Bridgewater.
How do you rank ’em?
Probably right like you have it
despite his lack of playoff wins… i’d take cousins over any of them.
Based on everything (age, cost, ability, situation, etc)
Foles
Cousins
Keenum
Bradford
Bridgewater
I think so. Also, Foles has the most playoff experience.
That’s about right
I agree
Yeah, looks good. Variables with each of course. Foles will cost a team a draft pick…Cousins a fortune…Bradford won’t be able to stay on the field.
What about Teddy?
Still looking for a few pieces of his knee.
^ I like Teddy better than most peeps, but coming off a major injury so who knows.
Anyhow
Big chance to make big strides coming up in FA and the draft
I can’t wait to get the first pulse of how Smith is working with the offense.
https://youtu.be/nauLgZISozs
Looks like I found our FO theme song.
Jk, well sorta
D_C actually played on of the Lollipop Kids.
You are hysterical sometimes
“I’d unravel every riddle, of Kirky Kirk-a-diddle….” – Bruce
PFF insider reporting that Butler missed curfew, was caught with weed by the police and then lost it on his coaches
That’d do it. Kudos to the Pats for keeping mum
what a f-ing idiot.
There goes Walter… insulting and making fun of people again…
Not very empathetic there Wiffer. Maybe the man is dealing with issues deeper than you’re able to grasp.
there are no pot-smoking “issues”. people do it because it’s fun.
More fun than playing in a Super Bowl?
No man, that’s a pretty big freaking issue.
well, yeah, that’s why he’s an idiot.
Rationalization in 3… 2… 1…
Scamp would never do such a thing!
Just mimicking his own sentiments to me this morning.
He has zero problem with hypocrisy
grasping at straws.
Wrestling with reality
are you seriously trying to equate that comment with your daily insults of people posting here?
Insulting people is insulting people Walter… you’re either doing it or your not. I’m sure you’re trying to rationalize it to make yourself feel like you’re better than everyone else… after all, that’s what you do.
speaking of rationalization….
What am I rationalizing Walter? Having trouble with vocabulary?
there is a difference between you and me posting comments to one another and having it devolve, as always, into you insulting me or others, and my calling a guy who apparently got caught smoking pot the week of the super bowl an “idiot”. is that distinction really lost on you?
Don’t worry Walter… God forgives you… even if I couldn’t care less what you think.
hahaha…. well, apparently you are fixated on what i think.
and, i’m pleased that in your eyes imaginary god forgives me.
Fixated?
Someone needs to get you a dictionary.
“fix·ate
ˈfikˌsāt/Submit
verb
past tense: fixated; past participle: fixated
1.
cause (someone) to acquire an obsessive attachment to someone or something.
“she has for some time been fixated on photography”
synonyms: obsessed with, preoccupied with, obsessive about; ”
———————
yup. pretty much perfect for what scamp feels about walter.
If calling you out as a hypocrite certifies as fixating in your world… then I’m sure you have hundreds of people fixated on you… cause you are a HUGE one.
you are rationalizing your constant, daily, argumentative, insults of people.
I never rationalize anything. I don’t try to make excuses for my actions… that’s all you do.
He is entering free agency too
All because he wants to get high
And then has the nerve to say after the game that the Pat’s gave up on him
SMDH
Let’s keep in mind that this is a PFF story… not exactly verified reporting
WTF, scamp?
i make a comment about butler being an “idiot” for getting caught smoking pot the week before the super bowl and it becomes an opportunity for you to insult me. i’d say “fixated” is the perfect word. and why are you so angry and mean?
I made a comment this morning about Kelly being a bitch… had zero to do with you… and you took the time to make a whole post about it. Why are you such a bitch?
are you proud about calling kelly a bitch? make you feel big and tough? kelly is a regular poster here. butler is not.
and i still maintain that a player being caught smoking pot the week of the super bowl is an idiot.
Oh… so it’s cool to make fun of people as long as they don’t post here…
Whatever makes you feel better about yourself.
what a shallow and transparent “comeback”. like you don’t insult posters and non-posters every single day. must be awful to be so angry all the time.
It’s very clear you aren’t intelligent enough to get the point. You are a dolt. How awful it must be to be such a bitter and jaded bigot.
Wait, I thought they wouldn’t keep him off the field as punishment in the SB?
Markets are hungover today. After a short-lived Opening Bell rally, Dow is down 375 (1.47%)
Profit taking. Still over 25k. Smart moves as the market levels out and stays on an upward trajectory, just not the hockey stick we’ve seen for the last year.
Markets are just pulling back to fair value.
Leveling off. Certainly not going down below 25K. No one thought that 12 month spike was going to continue to spike. So yeah. Makes perfect sense to everyone.
There’s a major level of support around 24775, so yeah.
24774.6
25,102
we’d be digging mass (suicide) graves outside of Wall Street
8675.309
the markets will do well for the next few months as the tax refunds roll in and people pump money into IRAs
and then
usually the markets are kinda flat last six months of the year, not always
Jacksonville will trade for Foles. Booked.
I think the team that trades for Foles is gonna be who comes in 4th in the Kirk/TeddyB/Bradford chase.
unless the Vikings sign Kirk. then that puts all three Vikings QBs on the market
Why would Foles be behind ANY of those guys?
only reason I can think of is it’s going to take some fairly high draft picks to get him; I mean SB MVP
value isn’t enough, then they keep him another year
I’d love for a draft review as a post hint hint
Things are in the works.
Nick Foles’ father, Larry is a homegrown success story. Grew from an assistant manager at Shoney’s into a very successful restaurant developer. One of his concepts, Eddie V’s Prime Seafood Grill, with multiple locations, sold for $59 million.
He is now an active investor in several other casual/upscale restaurant concepts, including Cover 2 and Cover 3 Sports bars, and Hopdoddy, a burger concept. All of his properties are excellent.
Foles is an easy guy to root for
Yea… but the Eagles aren’t an easy team to root for.
Hop daddy, sounds like a classic burger and brew type combo. Those always work.
They make one juicy, delicious burger. Meat is ground on premises. I would go there more often, but there’s always a wait to get in.
why wouldn’t you just go to the local butcher and grill out at home, whole six pack of good beer for the price of 1.5 beers out; grass fed organic beef, maybe a slab of havarti. boom
I do that already. But sometimes I like to go out. No shortage of great eats in Austin.
So right now there are still what 6 teams who probably want to upgrade QB this off season? Jags probably debatable because of the run they had this year even with QB issues. But adding them to this list.
Bills, Jets, Browns, Jags, Broncos, Cardinals
There will probably be 3 FA QB’s who will get starting jobs, 2 of the guys from the Vikings, and Kirk. Someone could potentially trade for Foles if they are foold into it I guess.
That could amazingly leave only 1 QB needy teams in the NFL draft, which seems really low.
https://twitter.com/Steveospeak/status/960570069926498304
Already seeing mock up of a Nick Foles Browns jersey.
Browns can’t use him.
does the emergence of nick foles diminish kurt cummings’s value?
Yes
Maybe only a little bit, IF a team really thinks “we could trade for Foles and win” But I don’t think other GM’s in the NFL will think it.
the draft value for him is much higher because of his contract, so it will cost more in that regard than Kirk
I would think Foles would want to be the starter somewhere, this is a big opportunity for him to cash in on a decent contract.
the two places where he prob fits the offense best: KC and Philly
You mean where he is and where he was?
Got to be some other Andy Reid coaching tree guys out there.
I agree, but any team could insert the RPO into their offense and attempt to make good use of Foles
We say that but in 2-3 seasons RPO will be a fad, that just influences playbooks a little. like the zone read.
RPO is just another name for zone read (right?), but I think it’s what we were talking about, less that the QB is running, the option is more QB pass or RB run with less QB run. basically it’s just a quicker version of play action passing that gives the QB a better look at the field.
How many Philadelphians does it take to screw in a light bulb?
20. 19 to rip the lamp post down mid riot and 1 drunk girl to puke all over them as she rides around on top of it. Then they don’t actually replace the bulb as they get arrested by the cops.
Don’t forget Mikey, Mikey eats glass……..and batteries.
It’s funny because I know a carnie who eats glass.
As opposed to the c-level executive who eats glass?
He does shows at the Ren Fair. Good dude. Also does the bit where he sticks his hand in a fox trap.
..
If I was opening a new pack of smokes, I would pull the cellophane off the box, set it open-end-down on the bar and point and say, “Hey Philly fan……looks like your trophy case!”
I’d be prank calling every Pats bar I could find trying to order Philly cheese steak.
While talking like Rocky Balboa.
YES!
Dammit, I can’t use my Eagles “no ring” cell phone joke any more.
Yes, we are gonna have to get all new jokes. It’s a sad day for easy punch lines, almost as sad as when Ted Kennedy died.
What is a Philly Superbowl casserole made with?
Burnt turds?
It’s a blend of fermented oats, alfalfa, and 10% sweet feed.
Meaty, wet and an fresh out of the chute, dark brown horse turds.
I’m sure you’ll fine tune that into a good joke.
Hell had to make sure a large chair meant for two old fat guys and a young waitress was available when Ted Kennedy died.
Growing up in DC wasn’t easy, this town’s streets were full of drunks vagrants. I couldn’t go more than a week with out tripping over Ted Kennedy passed out on the sidewalk.
If there really is a hell, then Ted Kennedy is a charter member.
Charter Members would have to be around when hell was invented in 300 AD.
Oh, he was there. He’s always been there.
TheHogSty @TheHogSty
2m2 minutes ago
Super Bowl LII pulled a 47.4 overnight rating nationally, which is 3% less than last year & an 8 year low.
–
Those 3% missed a great game.
On the way back from the gym this Pat’s fanbase is roiling
I can’t get enough
When Patriots win, they say “Brady is the GOAT!”
When Patriots lose, they say “It’s a team sport, Brady doesn’t play defense”
Reality: Brady lost the game. His fumble basically sealed the deal. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f9c9245c52055ab2bb0fa00d9011fe99cf03d3ee54350aa83c0db5940d3fb8ab.jpg
You don’t wanna know where he sticks the thumbs
If it’s somewheres on or in his wife….
No, it’s somewheres on or in his coach.
Oh…… nevermind
That’s just wrong
Love it!!!
Anyone that you particularly dislike? Send them a cheese steak sammich, delivery….
Hypothetical: Let’s assume Kirk really wanted to iron out a team-friendly LTD (which is far from the case). Do you think he is the franchise QB who would lead this team to a Superb Owl?
Here is my highly nuanced and technical response:
No
Kirk’s a pussy.
Agreed, which is why I get annoyed watching all of the hand-wringing from the KSFTG fan club.
I’m inclined to believe our chances are better with Alex over the short haul.
I don’t think you can really build a team with a time horizon longer than like 5 years
and Alex Smith looks to be able to fit that for now
You build for the next 3 seasons. But at the same time you need to be looking for those as many of those franchise cornerstone guys who will lock down 1 spot for 10+ seasons, as you can find.
He had zero interest in that
Furthermore no
Barn owl or screech owl?
African or European?
Both
Well then he can just grip it by the husk.
Ha
If it’s a team friendly deal, we can build around him at QB and not have a season like this one where he’s got no weapons? I think you are looking at least at a playoff team, I don’t know about SB, but as they say, got to make the dance first.
When you watch his highlight reel, almost all of Smith’s deep shots go to Tyreek Hill. Without Hill, I doubt Smith has 4k yards and he probably checks down a lot more. Hill is waaaay open on most of the shots too.
The ball being on time had a lot to do with that.
I mean Hill was 105/75 T/C, for 1183 yards, clearly the biggest threat they had in ypc, at 15.8. Odds are even if you distributed those passes to the other players on that defense the impact wouldn’t be the same, it would be close to 4,000 still but probably just under, 3,800 ish range, just my guesstimate.
For me the jury is still gonna be out on if Smith is really Jay’s QB or no, I think the match will be okay. But I don’t know if Gruden’s the kind of coach who will ever find a perfect fit at QB for himself. Its that whole thing where ex-QB’s turned coach all really just want to be out there tossing it themselves.
I think that Smith will listen to Jay and let it rip, instead of trying to protect his stats.
I’ve always found its generally more fun to have someone else toss it.
Yeah. Smith is a surprising choice in the sense that he is very conservative with the ball and not a risk taker.
Meanwhile, Gruden was just on about Kirk taking more chances.
Smith was MUCH more of a risk taker/playmaker this year than he’s ever been. What I’m interested in seeing if this was an anomaly or if this is the new Smith.
I think if we get him some deep threats he will be willing.
To go deep
We need a guy who can take the top off no matter who the QB is.
Nothing epitomizes it quite like the back and forth they had in the media where Kirk said, “If I listened to coach then I’d throw 20 interceptions a year”
And Jay said in the media, “yeah but he would also have about 60 touchdowns”
But in a sense maybe their contrast in play was what saved them both from failing.
We didn’t fail?
I feel like we kinda failed…..
Go root for some other team you whiny crybabby!!
— Koolaid Sippers
“oww, Okay…..” *picks ball up, shuffles away
^ Kelly?
And mediocre….
well…. of course the “jury is still… out”. haven’t played a game together. i imagine jay is happy to have a solid, proven qb for the next few years.
and, buys us time to find the next guy.
I went to middle school with this dude who LITERALLY got a new starter jacket after every Super Bowl. Whoever won it was “his team” until the next contest was decided. And once he switched, he acted like he’d always been a fan of whatever team. It was crazy. Did the same thing (maybe not a Starter jacket, but hoodie, jersey, some kind of gear) for Men’s hoops and baseball too.
All the Eagles Bandwagoneers today brought that dude back to mind. He’s like 43 years old now, and almost certainly just dropped his Patriots jacket off at Goodwill.
Some poor bandwagoneer just hit the jackpot, circle of life.
Flounder should swoop by and pick it up.
Shake some fiberglass dust on the inside lining and an extra helping around the under arm areas.
FWIW, if you don’t wash clothes you get from a thrift store, well….
You’ll begin to smell like Chris Chester?
HA!
4 chances to get that Buffalo Bills jacket.
No dice.
Where was the father in this picture. Can’t imagine letting a kid get away with that. Not only is it bad sportsmanship, civic pride. But the money we are talking about, those starter jackets are always overpriced.
Also, who wants a kid like that?
The dude was weird and annoying. He had a killer jump shot though (which he shot from the chest, little kid style) that was accurate from all over the court.
Daddy was convinced the kid was going D1 on scholarship and spoiled the dude no end.
Kid ended up 5’4″ and still shooting from the chest in high school. Never made varsity—at a hillbilly wrestling school where the bball team sucked. smh
Lol, first day of practice, guard slaps the ball outta his hands.
Probably someone like MAster….
Kevin Hart getting the Heismann from the security guard while DG28 was bringing the Lombardi Trophy up to the stage was just terrific.
https://sports.yahoo.com/kevin-hart-made-fool-celebrating-eagles-super-bowl-win-043823956.html
Understand the move. Have to get something done ASAP at the QB position assuming there is someone out there you really like. I’m just not enamored with trading for older players regardless of position. And Alex doesn’t jump out as a THE guy at this point in time for us. But i hope I’m wrong.
Me is a mediocre QB. Perfect for Jay’s team!
man, oh, man. that’s why they play the games and why sports are great. best reality show ever.
Wasn’t it the concussion that allowed Kapernick to takeover at QB?
Can’t recall.
-Ajax
Dear Redskins:
Just let Kirk Cousins go.
Sincerely,
All smart people
Can’t… do… it. He’s just so… cute. Can’t… keep… my hands… off… of him. GRRRRRRR!
-Hope
Unfortunately, Kirk has a new Beau… https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/84196f4ed282c785661e86f8aec309055727a3a2da08d64c75a5c159f6b860b7.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2mQIr6oNaA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_utP1mGoutQ
We now go to Skins twitter for rebuttal:
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PLEASE
Different_Cat • 15 minutes ago
So the “important dates” calendar lists today as, “Waiver system begins for 2018.” Not sure what that means, exactly.
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i sure wish they’d speed up the replay process. i, and probably most of us, can tell almost immediately what the right call is. they spend another minute or 2 on it. frustrating.
The only one that needed a few looks was possibly the TD where Ertz bobbled the ball after falling.
Even then I was able to figure it out after the 2nd or 3rd viewing.
if’n it would be travelling EVEN IN THE 3-4 step NBA, then he’s a runner, and it’s a TD
that’s a rule.
Yes that is the thing that like I said, needed to re-check. Live I’d not noticed if it was more than 1 step.
“loves strike zone replay, hates football replay”
zig,
not at all! i always want to get the call right. i love that nfl does replays. but, they just do it so poorly it hurts. note i said “speed up” not “eliminate”.
That was just a random file from last year, just messin’ around.
Best TV add IMO, Peter Dinklage raping about Doritos.
There’s a pretty big difference between “raping” and “rapping”.
depends on who you ask.
I would totally rape a bag of Doritos – Reid
Big Ben’s agent is taking notice.
you’ve kinda got to have a rapists wit about it
I think this sign an trade is more made up media crap though.
Well there were rumors that someone heard something from another owner that he thinks this could be some idea that Bruce Allen could possibly have.
So, cold hard fact.
Yeah
I mean of course they would look into you would be stupid not to but I don’t think it is guaranteed.
Thin K was highly regarded in the draft.
This would send the wrong message to other FAs who would think about coming to D.C. Who would want to join an organization that treats its players that way?
100%. Great point.
KC would have to be a willing participant in this process for it to work.
Yes, that’s how it would work. He has the leverage that he can screw the Skins, Skins have leverage in that if he doesn’t play ball they could revoke the tag well after Free Agency starts and have 2-3 places already find their QB; if he were to not play ball BUT sign the tag before a deal, the Skins could then trade him to Cleveland
Game of chicken. Skins aren’t good at these types of things.
mmm…. chicken skin…
I think these things keep each side in check, they’re boundaries. Both sides know it, and it then becomes just Kirk going out and finding a deal that works for him and the Skins. The place where the Skins could screw this up is thinking they have more leverage than they do. It would be minor compensation. We’re not talking like a 1st and 2nd round pick. If it were Denver, it might be something like a 2nd round pick swap and maybe a conditional 2019 pick.
So all this risk, when if you do nothing, you likely get a third round compensatory pick in 2019?
New remix coming, “burnin’ down the Ritz”
The shocking thing, never would have thought a cloth awning could hold that many people to begin with.
“never thought”
Actually a sign and trade would help a team like Denver who doesn’t have the cap space to get into a bidding war.
Yes, but absolutely no incentive for KC. None. Zilch. Nada.
he gets free agency early. for this to work he and his Agent have to work out the deal first.
not unlike the Smith trade between KC and Washington
KC was definitely hitting FA; KC had much more control over AS. A sign and trade for KC makes zero sense- eliminates bidding war.
no it doesn’t. the bidding war happens NOW, and he presumably is only interested in a few teams that are set up to win
So the “important dates” calendar lists today as, “Waiver system begins for 2018.” Not sure what that means, exactly.
I mean come on, it’s self evident isn’t it?
Today is when guys are wavers
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Dilly Dilly ole’ cow!
That’s one thing I won’t miss about moving east… late games
When is this country going to get with the program and admit that Super Bowl Monday should be a national holiday?
We’re due for a new holiday. Or, if they want to be stingy about it, just bump MLK day back.
I’ve said move it back to MLK day forever. Start the regular season in late august.
Or they could move the game up by 2 hours so it ends at 8/9 PM EST not 10/11 EST
The NFL likes stretching the season out to February. They have no incentive to end things early.
My argument would be that starting a month early is better because more fans will show up for games in better weather in the regular season than they will in the end of the year when the weather is bad. If you start the season 1 month earlier that means better turnout early.
They like starting in September because it coincides with the start of the new TV season, and their big kickoff Thursday thing and the start of Monday Night Football are major advertiser things. The NFL doesn’t care about fan attendance in better weather because the games are going to be sold out no matter what.
Why should they do that?
Learn how to act accordingly on a work night
Lol.
Greg being Greg!! Love it, man.
And PS I did act accordingly (except for staying up till near midnight, which is rare for me).
I got a little wild and crazy, even had a 2nd helping of dessert.
Chris Larry mentioned this on the last It’s Just Business show. That’s a great idea for workers, but a terrible idea for private businesses, which would lose big bucks with the banks, feds, and local gov’ts shut down, even if private industry wanted to stay open. No thanks.
You don’t lose that much if you’re not paying workers. I’d be up for having everything shut down 1 day a week.
Then you’d know who your friends are. You want to hang out on (whatever day it turns out everything is shut down). No. I’ve got to go to work!
So your friend would rather spend 2 days in the stocks than hang out with you.
Super Civil Rights Day
What incentive does KC have at all in cooperating with a sign and trade?
If he goes to FA, the bidding will begin (in a sign and trade, reduced bidding war, if any) and he can choose among the teams. I don’t see any advantage for KC to cooperate in a sign and trade. It makes absolutely zero sense.
The ONLY reason would be to avoid spending a year sitting on the bench, but I think he’d do it if BA fucked him around by tagging him.
No he wouldn’t.
No? Collect $34 million to hold a clipboard and start fresh next year? That would totally suck.
So the NFC East becomes the first division to have all its teams win at least one Super Bowl.
Also, for those of you who didn’t notice, we updated our roster chart, our salary cap projection chart, and added in a free agency signings tracker and a Redskins free agent status tracker. It’s in the “Roster/Cap/FA” tab at the top of the page.
Before anyone says it, I can’t do anything about the fact that the later years of the salary cap chart run into the sides. It’s a function of the website.
had a little party last night. my wife made philly cheesesteak sliders. bunch of people brought over a bunch of other stuff. as usual…. too much food.
Imagine being a firefighter in Philadelphia today
Like I have to risk my life because of your inability to control yourself
I have zero sympathy for any morons who hurt them selves in the name of celebrating
They still have a right to their services
Agreed but you know what I am saying
I was being childish
Tell ’em to eat shit and die.
Sincerely,
Mounted Police
Lucky no one got killed when this happened:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/05/sports/football/philadelphia-fans-celebrations-eagles.html
I’d say act like you’ve been there before, but philly hasn’t.
Love looking at white people in the streets last night throwing up gang signs whenever the cameras were pointed their way.
The Southside Cheesesteak Gang is dan-ger-ous
The Van Buren Boys!
– Costanza
It’s Philly living up to its well earned Cro-Magnon reputation.
If there was ever a fanbase that deserved to NEVER have a championship that was the one
https://twitter.com/amfmpm/status/960355625355145216
Lotta discussion on Twitter about how Bruce is gonna tag Kirk for spite.
Seems ridiculous
I for the life of me cannot see that happening
The backfire is too risky
Bruce may be arrogant and petty… but this would be a career ender
KC would sign here and we’re stuck
Not happening
You give permission to Kirk to talk to other teams
He gets his free agency early
He works out a LTD to his liking with Other team
Other team offers something in return
Then Redskins Tag Kirk first moment that it is allowed
The deal is executed briefly after 4 PM ET March 14th
Why wouldn’t he just wait for FA then and NOT hamstring his team with the loss of a draft pick?
It is ridiculous. Way too much risk and consequences just to maybe get a draft pick.
Guess you could try to trade Alex to the Browns?
HA!!
it wouldn’t be spite. it would be business, and there might be good reason for the Other (team) to want it to happen so they could complete the deal (in principle) before free agency
Not gonna lie
The misery around me is intoxicating
Ha!
Sipping tea?
Spoke to a Vikes fan this morning. Saying that Vikes are very much in the KC race. Keenum not under contract, Bridgewater is up in the air and on ones interested in Mr. Glass.
Interesting. Hadn’t though/heard of that angle before.
I mentioned that 2 days ago… the response from someone was it’s only the Viking fans that want Cousins
Maybe that’s true. But it certainly makes sense. They’re a contender.
To me, I think it would be smart. Keenum is a one year wonder and the other two are one hit away from having their careers ended.
You mean Noone
Sounds right… I couldn’t remember who said it
Certainly possible. A lot of discussion about ‘which UFA QB will the Vikes bring back’ and the answer might be: none of ’em.
I’m a bit surprised that they aren’t more in on Keenum.
Things changed a bit with Shurmer moving on.
One year wonders…
you drop kurt into that vikings team and, oh, man. them or the jags.
Spoke to a Pats fan this morning. He said Foles was targeting Butler’s replacement the whole time. Doesn’t know why Butler didn’t play, but says only way that happens is if BB is benching him out of spite for something.
You don’t do something out of spite that could cost you a championship….
Its Bellicheck.
Bellicheck does things on the field to win games not personal spats
Sat Welker for the first four drives in another SB. That’s not likely to help win games either.
Spite for what?
That’s the biq question.
articles are saying that butler was sick all week, but are also saying it was for “football reasons” – like he forgot how to play CB. maybe hard to parse, but they appear to be making it out like it was not a disciplinary reason. we will never know, because, you know…. partiots*
Colt under contract for next year for $3.6, then a UFA. Sounds affordable for a quality back-up.
I’m confident that Smith will bring a sense of quality and stability to DC, and I think he did open up his game at times last season. There were a couple of games where he looked like a totally different guy. I think bringing in a high-end veteran WR – pick one: Landry, Robinson, somebody – is going to be a must, along with finding a better running game.
The stability at QB for the next 3 years, at least, will be awesome.
I like his mobility and if I’m being honest, idc who our qb is as long as we win.
I’d bring in Paul Richardson as a deep threat. We need someone who can take the top off the defense
Landry = slot; Crowder = slot.
We need an outside receiver opposite Docston.
Very true.
Jville doesn’t tag Robinson and he needs to be on Redskins1 immediately
65, watch these guys.
https://www.premiershiprugby.com
Thanks BC!
No problem
BTW the US national team I understand is gonna start playing at the new DC United stadium in the next year or so I think.
Our Sevens team is doing much better than our 15’s. I’d go watch them both.
Like 65, I’m still trying to learn the game in some ways, but I like the pacing and the vibe of it becuase it’s very football like.
Some teams are more methodical, slowly working up the pitch to get in good position to get a try. Some are run and gun, dumping the ball down field and using a fast wing to score. There is way more to it than first meets the eye. Enjoy
It’s hard to belive that Smith played just as long in KC as SF, feels like the first 1/2 of his career was much longer.
He played 8 years in SF, 5 in KC.
I happy with him as our QB.
But 75 starts in both?
That was because he didn’t play much in his first year in SF, and then split a season with Kaepernick in 2012.
if the eagles and pats* were to play next weekend, who would you pick to win?
I still probably pick the Pats, think they win that game 75% of the time, last night was in the other 25%
yeah… i’d pick the pats*, too. but, good on the freakin’ eagles for out-smarting and outplaying the pats*. happens very rarely.
Good read Steve.
Yes, Mr. Steve. TY
Scamp, are you talking about the Hamster Kelly?
I thought Kelly was female? Shows how little I know.
LOL I did to at first.
Not that there’s anything wrong with that at all. Just my dumb assumption I guess.
Let’s just say he’s an interesting guy, hence the “Kelly” name… and we’ll leave it at that.
Its complicated. Transgender. Started off male; switched (or started the process of switching to) female. Depends on which gender s/he is associating with more that day.
I respect that! Live and let live…
He’s a good dude generally. One of the few hamsters that’s been to my home
They got in some debate about universal healthcare on Twitter, started getting childish. Scamp is now arguing about the fight over here.
Whole things pathetic really.
So fighting with Kelly, the hamster, correct?
Yes.
The only way it got childish is when he took his ball and went home. If you can;t handle your own words being brought up to you… so much so that you have to block someone… maybe you shouldn’t be on Twitter. I didn’t say one nasty word to him until he got so far into his feelings that he felt the need to take a parting shot and then block me so I couldn’t respond.
I’m strictly talking about how you were acting on my website. Which is pathetic and childish. Lot of internet bravado which is unmerited.
Just because this is “your” website doesn’t make you God hermano. HE was acting childish on Twitter… you stuck your nose into a conversation that had nothing to do with you and whatever you were blabbering on about. I guess that’s what adults do…
Yes… he’s generally a good dude and usually has no problem with a political argument. We’ve had plenty… he must be stressed out over the move.
I know you two are generally friends; that’s why I was confused.
It’s all good. It wasn’t even really that big of a deal. Alex thought he should interject for some reason… but hey, it is what it is
I was just pointing out that you are acting like a child.
again.
Actually that’s simply not true. You started in about “what about cops and firefighters.” You felt the need to take a side. It’s cool… it’s Twitter, it’s a public forum. But that’s not even what the discussion was about… The ONLY point I was making, and he didn’t like, is that we had a discussion on WaPo right before we left… and he plainly said that healthcare was not a right. He said the exact opposite this morning and I reminded him of that.
Technically It does make me god on this website, or more like a co-God with the other guys who drive this thing. We just try to be hands off with censoring.
And I simply pointed out a illogical inconsistency in your argument, on twitter. Because unlike you guys, I can debate politics for hours on end with out getting upset, because political debate it’s something I enjoy doing.
I didn’t get upset… Kelly did. Simple as that. It wasn’t even a debate on politics. It really helps to know what you are talking about before getting involved. But hey… you do you. If you wanna get into an argument that you are clueless about and doesn’t involve you that’s your business.
…and if you think you’re God of anything… well, I must laugh at you
Crap what did I miss?
Literally nothing.
Poo
Yeah, I guess that’s something. Eagles fan eating a horse apple.
From Tide pods to horseshit.
2 girls and a cup….still have nightmares
I can’t even figure out what Scamp is even talking about?
Mr. Steve be like….WTF!??? Rugby? blog fight? Ummm…….Alex Smith? Nice read, Mr. Steve.
lmwao!
great! scamp’s up here insulting and name-calling. always such a joy.
It’s real easy Walter… if you don’t like it block me instead of whining on like some little girl. You cry more than anyone I’ve ever seen… except maybe Kelly
….or… you could just stop insulting and name-calling and behave like an adult.
Or you could just block me and stop crying… thing is… you like to cry in public for some reason
Scamp, Kelley who?
aka… the Urban Meyer Utah
Yes.
I don’t always get blocked on Twitter…
But when I do it’s because Kelly is a bitch boy
What’s his problem this morning
He didn’t like being shown his own words… which contradicted whatever rant he was on about this morning
You are up here complaining about him disagreeing with you makes you just as much of one dude.
Act like a man.
I didn’t block him fuck boy
…and show me where I cared that he was disagreeing. All I did was remind him of what he said a few weeks ago… which directly contradicted what he was crying about this morning… because he can;t stop blubbering over Trump. I swear, you libbies need to stop blowing each other and think for yourselves.
No you are just complaining, about a political fight on twitter, on another blog.
Which you didn’t “win”, no one “win’s” a political fight on twitter. Anyone with brains can see it was a stalemate at best.
It sad, and frankly beneath you that afterwards you felt like you need to try and do some half assed victory lap on another website.
I wasn’t trying to win… I let him have it. I didn’t take some parting shot and then block him. Simple is that. I posted it here because I knew he’d see it.
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I don’t get the joke. the face lighting doesn’t look correct, so is this one of those different head on body photoshops?
Crying MJ
HTTRsince65 • a minute ago
saw
some rugby on Saturday, no idea the rules, but those guys are insane.
all that hitting, no pads..no sllding to avoid contact etc…
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I love watching me some Rugby, casually. Supposedly a US league is been trying to start up for a while now. https://www.usmlr.com/
I am gonna try and figure out how to catch a game or two on TV, if one of the teams is close enough next year I may try and catch a game.
those guys hit and hit and don’t seen to get concussed, or come out of the game. Insane…but I couldn’t stop watching..
no helmets makes a guy much less likely to lead with the head….
true
Plenty of concussions in Rugby, they even have a protocol.
i would think so, but obviously I haven’t watched enough to know better. Thx
Do you have that soccer channel, beIN?
There’s a soccer channel?
Yeah
honestly, i do not know. i’ll check though
They show all the Pro league games from England, Australia too, but that’s not as good.
US rugby, years from good, decades maybe. Premiership League is where it’s at.
They’re playing a lot of it on SoCal
That’s good, it’s what it’ll take to become a serious contender.
Wif
The Philadelphia fan eating horse dung is legit
Google if you want
Foist.
One thing I like about Alex Smith is that he looks off a lot of plays downfield, and uses the pump fake often.