Round one selection should be a dynamic player over positional need
April 26, 2018
By Jamual Forrest
Washington Redskins senior vice president of player personnel Doug Williams believes the Redskins roster as it stands is already good. For some who have may take it the wrong way may have perceived that statement as Williams as being content and not believing that the team needs to improve. That is a huge misconception with this roster, and I am very confident Doug himself will tell you he and staff are not content. However, once essential players on the roster are established, the next thing needed in order to build a contender is to draft dynamic playmakers with early selections regardless of position. Obviously, it makes sense not to entertain drafting at a few positions early in the draft like quarterback, offensive tackle, and special team positions. Is any other position off the table for their first two selections? Absolutely not.
The issue at hand is not exclusively an issue for the Redskins, as a few teams are lacking dynamic players, but the search never stops to find the next Tyrann Mathieu or Tyreek Hill to bolster each side of the football. Looking at the Redskins first two selections as “this is the only position we need to draft” is not the way the team becomes better. However, if the position of need happens to have the best player available at the time of their selection, it benefits both the positional need and possibility of having found that dynamic player. Williams’ philosophy revolves around best player available, so I don’t believe the Redskins are excluded from drafting at crowded positions like wide receiver, running back, cornerback, or edge rushers. When the draft finally arrives on Thursday, we will find out how the Redskins will play their hand at the 13th pick. Will they deal? Will they select a quality player? Or reach on a player that may have been available later? They aced the first round last year; we will find out Thursday if they can do it again.
Is it the bow tie or the green jacket?
Looking at the draft board, Steelers or Pats pass on him and Jackson ends up in R2
Something else that has to be said…
two consecutive years, the Jay Gruden led Redskins went Dline in the 1st.
Is it the bow tie or the green jacket?
I’m liking Steve Smith’s contribution
Thought I had already moved along…
http://www.thehogsty.com/2018/04/26/redskins-draft-daron-payne-in-round-1/
Sean Lee gonna pass off to Vander Esch
Martavis Bryant traded to the Raiders
Try it this way…think of Payne as a missing piece to the puzzle. You know how that is. You’ve got most of it put together, but are missing the one piece that completes it.
We had to get better against the run.
It’s a good pick
Bruce has to go. That was a piece of shit pick if I’ve ever seen one.
I hope I’m wrong, but I don’t think so.
It’s not a bad pick. I do think theSkins could have gotten some value out of 13, with the way the draft played out.
I swear Bruce couldn’t get the Saints to move to 13?
Who the hell that’s last against the run wants to fall back to 27?
I know I don’t.
Because Payne is the only run stuffing DT, not really a NT, in the draft. Granted moving to 27 seems a deep drop, but having 2 1s next year and an extra 3rd could be a nice consolation
Keep them spoilers going! I get a good laugh at ’em !
And of course. Saints trade up one pick later.
Can we get a do over?
Lol
Ok. I guess. We need all the help we can get in the middle. Bottom of the league in rushing yards allowed last year
Payne a good player. All pro ability is the question. I like. Would loved Tony have had trade back and still get a few picks later.
Hope he turns into an All Pro. Not sure how big an impact he makes on Day 1 though and I think we needed somebody who can make an impact from the jump.
Move along – new post, kids: http://www.thehogsty.com/2018/04/26/redskins-draft-daron-payne-in-round-1/
Better than Ridley!!
Right?….
Lol. For real
i would have gone crazy out in the street if they had done that.
Oh hell yeah!!!!
well, we sure as shit needed a premier run-stuffer, Payne is that. not so worried about reach at 13, rookie pay scale helps with that. i liked DJames, but this works really well. i’m happy.
Do they do the 2nd round tonight?
no
Tomorrow night
Don’t think so
No, can you sleep through the Payne?
Not worth 13th pick
Bit of a reach. With Derwin James and Tremaine Edmunds still on the board.
Yeah. That’s where I’m at. Why skip on James?
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKK
Too many bama’s on our d-line now…
Don’t forget Ryan Anderson
Why couldn’t we get that trade
They never are effective at trading down.
#Opportunitylost
We need to stop the run. And disrupt on the other side of the line.
This is not a reach.
The Washington Crimson and Gold
It was always Payne (Allen hint hint)
That’s probably true
meh
Exactly
Hell hath no wrath like DC scorned…. Let’s hope he pans out. Lol. 🙂
No doubt
We just solved our Dline and Redzone problems
So you fucked it up Bruce.
James was there!!!
My God…………
Reach
Interesting
Alright
Reach
Okay
Fuck you hankins
F Dallas
hernanzez
OMG
Pick is in.
Shut up Alex
D_C is rubbing his pud.
Tearing the skin off of it
Small job
Don’t post spoilers assholes
Get off the blog
Whatever that means
Lamar Jackson, following a trade.
Take that clock to Zero.
Think skins clearly looking for a trade
and the pick is…
Payne is still a good player guys. If Allen holds him to the standard of his final 4? He’ll be an All Pro.
Here we go bitches
Been a year.
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKK
It’s Payne?
The first time Vita put in in……
tmi
Nah… he’s used to it
That’s not what he’s whining about
Derwin James or Tremaine Edmunds.
Joins you in FL at least
Gene Simmons’ roided out son.
Kirk Hammet’s fat son!
That’s it!!
Don’t screw this up Bruce!!!
https://media.giphy.com/media/xX8jOgoBnVrY4/giphy.gif
It’s going to be Payne
Reach…. but yeah
If you can move back with Bal, LAC, or Sea I’d do it.
James or Edmunds. Sorry BC. I like James. Dynamic
Trade down. Or James
like i said, Tampa was going to sting us. hell with ’em, we got plenty still on the board that will work nicely.
NOoooooooooo-dc
Buck……………
edmunds
Gobble Gobble
They could trade back here as well
Please don’t take Payne or Guice.. do. not. reach.
Go get James
Trade back I’d say
Vea. Yep.
James or Payne.
I want James. Either way is good. Not Guice. Wait on RB.
James or trade down
Sweet, come on home Danville Virginia
Gotta be James.
Hernandez
Fuck
OOOOOOOOHHHHHHH
Fuck Vea.
I wish
-DC
Well
Wow. Who we got ??? James or Guice ????!!!
Ohhhh
Payne or Vea. Either way Allen and Ion have a serious player working with them.
Seeing Tampa taking Vea on twitt
So it’s Publix?
Stop it
Why are you posting spoilers asshole?
Dude
So… Vea?
Guess so
Yea… me too
With P. Cheeks and S. Barkley… better load that line
Bingo said as much earlier
Who’s bingo?
Sherm
He’s back?
Oh for fuck’s sake
Pants down – dc
Bucs go edmunds
James
Doctson gonna torch him
On the stationary bike.
Well well well… I made it back in time
Some surprises so far… hate that Barkley went to the Ginas.. but who’s gonna block for him?
Eli
Eli can play fullback
Kicking net
K. Net
We gotta go Guice ! Get Vea rd 2 !!
Bucs go James.
Everything I’ve been talking about like I know what the fuck I am talking about is coming to fruition.
– D_C
Bucs need to go Vita Vea
Lets hope
They need O line pretty bad but so do most teams
Ouch, that was my first choice.
Good pick
DaMNIT
Yep. Saban’s son. Going to be an All Pro.
And he would have filled a huge need for us.
Eats Little Debbies.
Fucking pussy.
CB S RB will piss me off
Damn
Picks are flying off the board.
Miami goes minka
Damn Butter
You on the twitter?
Nope
Great !
Aikman ain’t missing any meals these days.
Joe Buck keeping him fed
Man… it has to be tempting to trade back if possible.
James/Fitz/Vea all there.
I’m thinking they still go Payne. Or Guice.
Not unless it’s a juicy deal.
Dolphins go Vea or James
Edmunds
What a scenario if they take Edmunds.
Don’t want a cb s hybrid
Rosen is picked Top 10 and acts pissy. dooosh.
“Josh you have a look on your face….” – Deion
Josh, you just lost more money in the last 30 minutes than Charles Barkley does in 3 holes.
– Prime Time
Rosen is Brandon Weeden 2.0
I think Skins like Minkah the most out of those left. That would be my guess if he’s still on the board
Word was he was top of their board at some point
He’s the top of my board, atm.
Trade back for Payne would be great.
Fitz, James, Edmunds, Vea at 13 would be great.
next three picks Vea, James, Fitzpatrick
That would be a kick in the balls
Ruined the suspense. Thanks Twitter!! 🙂
Good pick for AZ.
Skins +6 talent wise at this point
James Fitz or Edmunds are now in play for the skins
Don’t want any of them
Them Vea or payne and I’m happy. James has been compared to ST21. Works for me.
All in for Edmunds
Third and a fifth for two spots.
Man, it would be great to see the Skins move back two and get that much.
We need a future, perennial All-Pro.
Agreed. But if we could get a 3rd and an All Pro…
Why did the cards see the need to move up?
True that
NFL mandated drama?
Maybe Pats trying to move up?
Matriculate.
D R I N K
Wonder what Oakland got?
It seems like teams picked their stop gap QB to align with who they would draft.
Drop back to 15
Raiders want what we want
Rally Bowl
You better save some for tomorrow dude. Its a 3 day deal fwiw !
Really lining up for us here is Rosen goes at 10
Wow, looking good. As long as Bruce doesn’t screw it up.
Ridley at 13, haha
NOOOOOOOOO!!!!
Cards moving up for Payne
Wow. A lot going to be left on the board for us. A trade back, maybe, if someone wants Jackson. But some really good choices.
Damn Skins not quite high enough for trade up. Kirk really screwed Washington every way he could.
He sure did.
Snakely. He and his agent
Rosen to AZ.
Gotta be.
No doubt
Cards want Rosen
Got a sinking feeling, though, that we’ll have one of the 4 I listed, and end up going elsewhere.
I’m still ok with Payne. Just think he’d be available later.
Surprising yet not really. SF will go RB next pick
Good lord, that video of Mike McGlinchey on NFLN, dude looks like he’s already 30
Played in a bar league.
Where sunblock was outlawed as performance enhancing
49ers selection is a +1 for us right?
Bingo
So worst case we get a shot at one of the following:
Edmunds
Fitz
James
Vea
the McGlinchey pick helps us a lot.
Looking really good for Skins
Solid pick
Thanks.
– Booger
Now eat it! Hahaha!
That kid’ll eat anything.
Go BTG! Nice call
R E A C H
I feel like it’s Christmas and I sort of know what I am getting but AI am not totally sure so I wait for my little bothers to open their gifts and then laugh as each one is shit……until I get to mine
That was like my anniversary gift, the wife just gave me. I knew it was gonna be one of 2 or 3 things. Ended up being a smoker. And I’m like, yay, a smoker!
Niners go with Fitzpatrick
Not
4 guys off the board who I think we fans would have loved to get. But plenty left over at this point to make us happy right?
oh yeah.
Sf goes mcglinchey
Please!!
I’m thinking Edmunds.
Boom
Good call
i’ll go on record, subject to ridicule if i’m wrong, that RSmith will be the next great Chicago MLB.
Possibly, Chi town’s kinda known for great LB’s aren’t they.
I agree. Good point.
He will grow. No doubt.
I like Smith better than Edmunds. Good for Bears.
Four picks left… James, Fitz, Vea all still there.
Skins are going to end up with essentially the 6th pick in the draft when it’s all said and done if you remove QB’s and a couple “reaches”.
Fuck moving back. We are going to get a transformative player mother fuckers!
There were 12 non QB’s I’d be very happy with, so I’m not overly worried about who we get at this point.
Transformative, word of the day
Future pro-bowl player that Transformer!
– Theismann
Yes
Wow. Pace w Smith over Edmunds. Interesting. Edmunds instincts do lack….
Nice back rub
Small
Crazy quick though
Will get ragdolled
Manhandled……
Will ragdoll KSFTG
Would have been hilarious if Dieon was like, “So, I heard you callin’ people n—–s! WHat’s up with that, dawg?”
Deon doesn’t have those kind of balls with out pads on.
He wasn’t that much of a ballsy tackler even with pads.
yes but wasn’t he a known trash talker?
Good trade for the Bucs
Tremaine Edmunds to Bears.
Boo
Yah
Bummer
Im guessing……
Oh, thought you heard something
Dieon Sanders talks like the dude on the ‘cona askin’ you for a smoke as you walk by.
Keep sliding Rosen
Edmunds/Smith to Bears?
or McGlinchy…
Agree
So fair to say so far L- Cle, Buf?
Rosen to Miami?
? mmmmmaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyybeeeeee???
Barring a trade they are the next team rumored to be interested in a QB
Mayock’s mock last night had him going to Arizona
Yes, please.
Man, I live right between old Cleveland and new Cleveland (Buffalo)… lol.
And I prefer both Browns and Bills fans to Stiller fans. Ugh.
Fortunately, I was smart enough as a 6 y/o to ride with the Skins. And pick none of the above among those three.
One more for us, yay!
Tampa’s going to pick someone that i really want that’s left at that 12 spot, i just know it.
They better inspire the publix.
Vita
Allen = Dalton
Allen – Drukenmiller 2.0
Yes !
The new Cleveland
Gutsy on Bills part.
But dumb.
Buffalo, upstate…….fuck some tweets.
FAIL trade up.
What a shitty move for a dude with a 50% completion.
OMG
he’s going to get the Bills GM fired.
Can’t believe Arrington doesn’t deliver Troy some smelling salts at the desk.
jackson
Bills go for Rosen. Or Jackson.
Rosen or Allen.
We are taking Payne.
Do not book it.
Lol
Oh it’s booked
We are taking Josh Allen.
No trades yet, kind of surprised
No one has been right so far.
– Football Universe
Ahwell
Least Mrs kon doesn’t have to worry about me fapping in the middle of the room now
Tbay goes minka
It’ll be James next, right?
I’m not allowed to say
Dline or Tackle
Say
trade
Which division?
Guice!
Lol
Twitter has the picks 2-3 mins before the TV
Post em
thanks for not spoiling.
Nelson is a Bad Mother Fucker.
– Jules’ Wallet
meh
Chubb will be a good one, shame he has to go the Browns. like others said below, it’s gotta be Nelson for the Colts.
Nelson to Colts is a waste
^ D_C?
Nelson to the Colts?
Colts didn’t take long. Run up. Gotta be Nelson.
Yeah. Luck should walk that pick up personally.
Take Guice if he falls to 13!!!!!
– Steve
ME !!!
Allen will fall.
Nelson next?
Definitely a nice move. Bronco D is going to be after QBs.
Good Pick Broncos.
Great pick for Denver
Chubb and Miller yikes
Should have gone to Denver.
– Kurt
This is the kid Eisen ran for at the combine
Browns fans….OOOOHHHHHHH YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
https://i.imgur.com/WWEByFc.jpg
Hahaha, lol
Notice the dude, bottom right with the beer laughing about it.
Nelson falls to us
Please!!
Never happen tho
Free lunch and Cleveland just puked on their shoes
That’s my move.
– Mc5
The Browns are making everybody throw out their mocks
Broncos go Rosen ?
That would be a good pick for them. No way you can rely on Keenum repeating 2017.
Im passing…and go w Chubb or Nelson. But they not sure at QB I thinking…
Redskins move up and take chubb for 3 first rounders
Scot gets fired tonight
Man… if I was a Browns fan, I’d be annoyed. Two picks that were definite reaches.
I’d be wondering why they didn’t trade back.
And… wondering if it wasn’t because Scot was too drunk to man the phones!
I’m still hoping for Fitzpatrick or James but I’m really warming up to Vea.
That’s where I am.
We kinda need to stop the run. Payne or Vea would be good with me.
Chubb slips to 5… someone has to trade up. Or the Broncos put Chubb near Miller.
Chubb still in play!
I was close….wow Ward over James
Wow
What!!! Love it Browns
WOOT!
wow, that’s a reach.
Ward!
Glad we won’t grab him.
Dick = Stepped on
Chub
not .
Someone smoke a bowl with me.
Ok
Activating
Bay 11
I really do like Dieon.
Dieon is my least favorite player to EVER have worn a Skins uni….
Anyone else?
Haynesworth
Stubby
Shutting up now.
Still, at least Haynseworth went away. and never was a Cowboy.
Hi there- Albert
Yes Chubb prob. They have a surplus of ends though. Maybe they go Derwin James
Other three teams in the division have great run games
If we want to have a chance gotta counter that
Chubb next.
No doubt
Where does Cleveland go here?
Josh Allen.
IKR – Steve Smith
Courtney Brown.
Wherever it will be wrong
Trade out?
That would make too much sense, so, no.
Cleveland goes QB 2 with Allen!
Don’t book it.
it’s interesting. we’ll face Elliot, Barkley and Ajayi in the division. stop the run, or try to match the other teams’ rushing attacks. i’ve no opinion, just i think it sets up an interesting dilemma.
Stop the run
Wait until Philly takes Guice….
Guice can’t read.
Neither can Philly
Perfect for Philly
Darnold a better Kirk. Will break Yorkers hearts.
Better Kirk? You think?
Kinda. All the homework and better laser arm. He may step up tho. I dont count him out….in the clutch
Todd Bowles scares the living shit out of me when he’s smiling. I know dudes like him. I steer clear.
101 Mocks
Vita Vea, DT, Washington 41
Derwin James, S, Florida State 15
Minkah Fitzpatrick, DB, Alabama 10
Denzel Ward, CB, Ohio State 9
Roquan Smith, ILB, Georgia 7
Da’Ron Payne, DT, Alabama 7
Tremaine Edmunds, LB, Virginia Tech 5
Derrius Guice, RB, LSU 3
Calvin Ridley, WR, Alabama 3
Marcus Davenport, DE, Texas-San Antonio 1
Some say DT may not be Skins 1st rd pick, but in the NFC East stopping the run is a must! However they structure it, that has to be a top focus this draft
We gotta GO Guice to keep up ! Got to.
Can he stop the run
Fat Rob can.
This !^^^^
Man we gotta get him. Rare chance to keep up w Jones
He wont be there for us in the 2nd
Here’s your get out of ban free card 🙂 – Mr. Steve
Loser gina fans. As if they didn’t finish next to last in the league.
Cleveland should have grabbed Barkley
SM strikes again haha
Tweet that you drunk
Vhhkf! Hhkhgsrgbhj
hahahahaha
That’s for you for your birthday
thanks, bud, i about choked on my dinner, haha.
http://i.imgur.com/2LQZAD2.png
HAHAHAHA. “Look at my red face”!
Maybe we get lucky and Chubb falls to us
Chubb doesn’t get by Colts or Bucs
Genealogy Websites Were Key to Big Break in Golden State Killer Case
so smart, now when criminals and their relations do 23&me, catch some new charges
Wow. About right. How about Rosen to the Jets ? My guess. Man if Chubb falls……
If you have a Chubb, how can he fall?
Ha !
I knew if he was there ny would grab him
(insert transparent Capt. O sticker)
Maybe this means the Gints don’t get a replacement for Eli for 25 years or so.
Plus, PSU RBs have been cursed at the top… so there’s hope.. :/
I won’t enjoy watching that guy in a Giants uni.
Fucking Browns
I curse you!
Jets are loving this. They take Darnold for sure.
Darnold or Rosen
Could be Rosen.
I’d be a little scared of his injuries.
Jets are fapping like D_C with a photo of Bob3 in the bathroom.
Wow. So far so good. How bout Rosen to the Jets ? Maybe Darnold not all that w GMs ?
Gotta go dL now
That’s what I said.
– Sam
Feces
Scat
stool
BM
Turds!
– Spaulding
#2
DOODIE!
This ain’t yo Mama’s TI
Damn
damn. wish the Browns had taken him instead.
Barkley doesn’t scare me.
The Ginas have ZERO o-line.
Barkley will be 2nd and 14 so many times.
They do have great WRs. It will be tough to put 8 in the box
Fuck need a DL for us now
Barkley eh? Sucks
Fuck
Shit!
Don’t be Barkley
Don’t be Barkley
DOn’t be Barkley
Go PUNTER!
Remember early on they had the skins picking Mayfield?
well no mock draft I saw had Baker Mayfield as the #1 pick
Some real early ones, when he was hot.
Lot of people were saying Mayfield over the last few days.
Coach JS No Punt Intended • a few seconds ago
At least one is his mom, I think…. but whatevs! Lol
–
Wait. At least 1? How could it be more than one?
1 down 4 to go
Cleveland being Cleveland
Yep. That’s what I was thinking as I shook my head.
add Mayfield to the Jersey.
McClue getting called “highly respected”… ok
Scott will be on the floor by the 4th pick!
I mean… at least they didn’t go Josh Allen
Allen would have been good for us, imo. But let’s go Darnold to Gints
He’s a certain bust. Mayfield at least has a chance.
Lol. Called it NPI. Nice.
Scot is sipping strong!
Shotgun Scot!
McGlue barely holding up in that chair
LOL
Scott M is slouching so far down in his chair
LOL!
What they hell?
-NFL History
Scotty M….really
was not expecting that…good call, QGC.
Yea man liked him for a while.
https://twitter.com/ByKimberleyA/status/989659059568742400
He’s fucking every one of those chicks tonight.
https://media.giphy.com/media/7jnPjsh3L7WHm/giphy.gif
At least one is his mom, I think…. but whatevs! Lol
Lol, QGC fucking nailed it.
Dummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmb
Here we go.
vita vea!
lol
Guessing Darnold.
Baker.
Pay me.
ha, steve smith suggested cleveland take two qbs with 1 and 4
Cracks a heck of a drug
Shut up Aikman
“I live in the past.”
Do the browns need the full clock? theyve had 8 months to decide.
Who’s going to leak the picks prior to the announcements?
Jasno…
always Jasno
Comey.
Lotta basement dwellers
Hey.
Yeah I’m in my basement, that’s where I put the TV
I’m in the “play room”… kids are in bed, so I’m cool with that. 🙂
2 spaces in the house are “mine”.
Basement and my office, I don’t keep a TV in the office.
Also known as….bloggers.
Greg’s in his garage, don’t know what he’s trippin’ on….
Tripped over his empty cans of Rogaine.
Oooooooo
it’s my birfday. get me something good, Redskins.
Happy B day KING!
Happy Birthday you sonofagun!
Happy Birthday, King!
Happy birthday
Cheers! It was my brothers as well.
give him my best.
Will do …when I die !
ah shit, i’m sorry man.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iH3oOVKt0WI
hahahaha, that’s great.
El Presidente!
Also, Im taking the Montae Nicholson pledge: If they pick someone we all agree is a bad selection and the entire draft community says sucks, I’m remembering Montae!!
They keep doing the draft in towns with no class, Goodell will keep on being boo’d.
I mean… there’s not many NFL towns WITH class.
Got a cold Southern Tier, and the draft! Life is good.
Cleveland selects Ty Detmer
How would you rate McCloughan’s buzz, visually, on a scale from 1 to 10, 10 being “snot-flying drunk”
What color is his face?
Based on the red tint
3 beers
Shit faced
“let’s trade up!” – Scot
Scot front and center of the Browns war room.
Browns select Tim Couch!
wtf…I just had to captcha
For fuck’s sake….get on with the draft, stop with all the hoopla
Rodger Goodell is to the NFL front office what Bruce Allen is to the Redskins.
No. Roger is a good earner.
– Tony Soprano
TBF, we could put DC in charge of the NFL and it would still earn money.
No one would ever draft a guard.
They would automatically start as UDFA’s
Steelers pick Staubach
LOL
Alex Zeese @Alex35332
2m2 minutes ag
George Preston Marshall vs Dan Snyder. Who would win in a fight?
—
Rick Snider @Snide_Remarks
1m1 minute ago
George easily.
JKC woulda kicked Snyder’s ass.
With his tweed fedora.
JKC would open the fight by shooting Dan in the face with a double barrel shotgun, then shooting him again to be sure.
Ha.. Booing the Cowboys!!
https://cloudfront.sportsgrid.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/CRniefN-628×471.jpg
Aikman … one of those Big 12 QBs who can’t win.
Yeah, he just won rings bitch.
Can the fans give the booing a rest? Thats so 2000.
BBBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!
Here we go folks. My man Baker goes #1.
Goodell getting boo’d.
So fucking stale.
Get a life you loser fans.
Josh Rosen looks like a younger goofier version of Eli.
ZigZag’d lol
haha, didn’t see that. Just confirms you’re not the only one to see the resemblance.
I love it, first thing that crossed my mind.
Less tongue-hang-out but yeah. He looks a little mentally sluggish.
Crazy because supposedly he had a 4.3 GPA in HS.
He’s Chuck Norris.
Minus the standing bitch face.
Just gotta hit him – shitstorm
Its a lock that the Giants will draft him then.
Based on multiple sources, the Redskins’ realistic top options at 13 are Fitzpatrick and James, if available. As for the defensive tackles, multiple sources state Washington prefers Payne over Vea.
-Ben Standig
https://thesportscapitol.com/2018/04/25/redskins-and-rumors-final-pre-draft-thoughts-on-13-round-one-nfl-buzz/
Would be fine with any of them. Skins in a good spot
I think they like the idea that Allen prefers him.
Make Payne happen
Come on… you had the easy win right there with Bring the Payne
Or at least, “my prediction: PAYNE!!”
King of Payne
Predictions?
Payne.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSPNQ82Sq4E
0 minutes to the NFL draft
Boom!
Quick pull from a fresh bowl of some choice lettuce.
I need a G Y R O !
ha!
When I was in Thessaloniki 2 years ago, I had what was probably the best gyro I’ll ever have.
It was pork, with fries, tomato and tons of sauce.
@ DC…. missed it. Why did you say Skins will take Payne over Vea? Was source/leak/report?
I’ve been doing family stuff all night. Just got kids to bed.
I think he’s just jibbering
Thanks, Alex
Was just reading something by Ben Standig and he claimed he heard the Skins prefer Payne from multiple inside sources.
Why don’t they ever show the redskins’ “war room”?
We go live to the Redskins war room
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Oh shit……….
HA, this is why they should show the war room!
Because it’s just Doug Williams and Bruce Allen in suits with Dan Snyder serving a tray of cold cuts in a french maid outfit.
hahahahahaha
And lots of boxes of tissues and crates of Boy Butter
What’s up, guys! Happy Draft night!
Draft!
– SM
I picked every possible scenario!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
– D_C
Ha.
I laugh because I’m fairly sure I’ve done it too
Sam Darnold
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Good luck Redskins, HTTR.
ZIGZAG non-syndicated: day 1
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Defense
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2 • Bradley Chubb, DE, Wolfpack
4 • Minkah Fitzpatrick, CB/S, Alabama
5 • Tremaine Edmunds, OLB/ILB, Hokie
8 • Derwin James, S, FSU
7 • Harrison Phillips, DT, Stanford
9 • Da’Ron Payne, DT, Alabama
11 • Leighton Vander Esch, ILB, Boise State
12 • Roquan Smith, OLB/ILB, Georgia
Offense
________
1 • Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State
3 • Quenton Nelson, Guard, Notre Dame
6 • Will Hernandez, Guard, Texas El Paso
10 • Isaiah Wynn, Guard, Georgia
13 • Derrius Guice, RB, LSU
This the new hamster cage?
This is the most current.
Put out new newspaper and everything.
Now I’m hoping we get Minkah or Derwin, because I think the Redskins would take Payne over Vea if they’re both there, and that would make me lose my mind.
Deep breaths.
Yeah, smoke a J or somethin’ to calm down kid!
Ahma find something to break.
Don’t break things
break dance
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I’d break a lot of body parts if I attempted that.
How long will the orange hats take to make pick 1?
They’ll take the full time.
Speaking of the Browns and their orange helmets
I’m not looking forward to seeing them go to a white helmet in a few seasons like they plan too.
Rosen…the new goofball Eli
Getting old sucks
Softball starts next week, did some hitting tonight that’s gonna leave me aching tomorrow
Don’t get old. Old is a mindset. Instead, age.
And, do a lot of stretching before activities. Also, put you some Advils in a Pez dispenser.
Drink water, take really hot showers, or buy a hot tub, you’ll be fine.
Cryotherapy!
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I can get a hot tub, ice machine, and pool for the same money, right?
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Nice
Get a few stingers?
The QB selection at 1, will be there at 4 dammit.
Select Barkley ffs.
Sounds like they are hell bent on trading out of 4 for some reason.
Well fine. Still…they have Tyrod. Get Barkley.
He’s too much BPA to go skipping for a frign QB.
I’ve said all along Barkley and Nelson are the two best players in this draft and they can get both
If they decided they didn’t want to go QB in either spot they would be locked into 2 blue chip guys either at RB, G, or DE.
Ham’s American Bar and Grill, Danville, Va. The Edmunds family draft party.
Caps scored 17 seconds into 1st pd.
Vita Vea looks like a fat version of Troy Polamalu. Huge head!
You know what they say about a man with a big head
tough to find the right sized hat?
If by hat you’re talking about his _______
Lamar Jackson has a big noggin also, but there is nothing inside of it.
Heading off to flag football practice…
Thank God for Twitter
I got a 32 oz beer ready 2 go.
The draft is here!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHZR9SA5pOg&list=PL1zhKJR4a_DHLNxknoz9zkDjzSrBkkFxh
Sam Darnold has a block head.
…and is a super nice guy
Grew up in your old neighborhood, right?
Went to high school here in town. Met him over at the high school a few times when he came back to visit the coach… whose office is right next to the wrestling room. Took time out to talk to my son. Nice guy
Cool.
Seems pretty mellow, down to earth
61 minutes to the draft
https://twitter.com/PFF_College/status/989632969609564160
PFF is a fraud. And, you’re not allowed to post anything by them.
You’re welcome.
-Steve
Problem with Vea … too tall.
I ever didn’t say you couldn’t post their stuff.
Just don’t expect me to find it credible.
If you’re going to bash me, pls get it right.
Oh you said it. Not in so many words. But…we all knew what you meant.
Right D_C?
That isn’t what I said or what I meant.
What’s Payne’s
Round 1 Pick 23 (N.E.): Hernandez, Will, OG, Texas-El Paso (A)
Round 2 Pick 12: Evans, Rashaan, OLB/ILB, Alabama (A)
Round 2 Pick 16 (LAC): Goedert, Dallas, TE, South Dakota State (A)
Round 2 Pick 22 (K.C.): Johnson, Kerryon, RB, Auburn (A-)
Round 2 Pick 32 (CLE): Hill, BJ, DT, North Carolina State (A-)
Round 4 Pick 9: Dawson, Duke, CB, Florida (A+)
Round 5 Pick 5: Moore, JMon, WR, Missouri (A+)
Round 5 Pick 26: Igwebuike, Godwin, FS, Northwestern (A+)
Round 6 Pick 14: Ford, Poona, DT, Texas (A+)
Round 7 Pick 13: Wims, Javon, WR, Georgia (A+)
Round 7 Pick 23: Senat, Greg, OT, Wagner (A)
That Johns Hopkins penis/scrotum transplant that happened the other day is nuts.
Literally
Funny enough, they didn’t do the testicles.
The reason…donated testis will always produce the donor’s sperm. The thinking is, the donor submitted to donate organs, not their genetic offspring. Somehow, it’s taking without consent.
I wonder though, what if the donor had a spouse and she’s not done with him?
Did you see the oil gushing in that refinery pic you posted?
Yea. I reckon #6 fuel oil.
Yes sir, it’ll ignite and catch the world on fire. Burn on water, whatever.
Bananas
Whacked
Recap of Today
Jags to London
Mayfield is short
Big 12 QBs suck
Mockers pick Vea to Redskins
White people are racists
Buy gas
I’m white and I’m not racist. Wtf is that about?
Dig it
You’re white and you deny it. Definitely racist.
Prolly a grand wizard.
Hate the wizards, like the bullets
FWIW, apologies if this was already discussed
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2772658-report-shahid-khan-in-wembley-stadium-sale-talks-could-move-jaguars-to-london?
The Londane Jaguars
The London Monarchs
Three times already today.
Do you even scroll bro?
Well, I don’t read the articles… so… guess…
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Quit yer fap’n
Ah we can fap if we want to, we can leave your friends behind
Cause your friends don’t fap and if they don’t fap
Well they’re are no friends of mine
might want to go out and buy gas now
What happened?
explosion at refinery in Superior, WI
The refinery looks to be intact. It’s the one tanker that had the problem.
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I did happen to fill up earlier. Yay me.
so long as they didn’t actually shut down (because it takes awhile to start up)
and the upper Midwest would feel it most
That’s #6 oil pouring out of that ruptured tank.
Nice thing about my new ride is that it can use regular gas. Been paying for premium for years due to previous cars’ turbos.
used to be that the price difference was 10 cents between grades, so that was no big deal, now… it is
I’m done debating the height of Baker Mayfield. All points on both sides have been made, and there’s nothing left to say.
He’s from OU, so he sucks.
That I can get behind, too.
Dude sucks. Will get manhandled in the NFL.
On this we can agree. 😀
he can look Drew Brees straight in the eye
Speaking of chairs…
I want one of these in the office. And one of everything on that desk there.
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https://twitter.com/TheHogSty/status/989621225247903744
That covers two of the chairs in their section.
Well, Darryl, too, so 3.
He’s tomorrow
You’re welcome
Too bad the dude was too short to play CB in the NFL. 😉
Good sized section. Looks like four, maybe five rows.
Should have snagged the hogsty a seat.
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I thought about it, believe me, but that would’ve required one of us, probably me, to take off work and go up there for at least a day, assuming we could get credentialed. The Redskins would credential us, but I’m not totally sure how the draft works, press-wise.
A day off to cover the Redskin’s draft? Well clutch my pearls!
Shew that’s good yesterday Daryl was going to announce the team’s third-round selection. I was just happy to hear that we had our 3rd round pick back
Mike Bracken?
The same guy who used to do (when he felt like it, apparently) movie reviews on Big O and Dukes (when they were on the radio)… because based only his is time on that show, I wouldn’t trust that guy to wash my car.
Zero idea.
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lol. took me a sec
Case Keenum … also 6’1″.
Funny all the short guys coming out to short guys defense. if you owned a football team you would not want a short quarterback has your first choice.
I’m a short guy and I don’t want a short guy for QB
I’m only 6 feet tall and I don’t want a 6-foot quarterback
I’m 5’8″. NFL QBs ideally should be fairly tall.
All else being equal, you’d want a taller QB, but all else is never equal. I honestly don’t think being 6’1″ as opposed to 6’2″ makes a damned bit of difference.
Well, the history of the NFL says that your view is the minority.
The fact that Mayfield is going to get drafted in the top 5 picks says that your view is the minority.
That’s factually inaccurate. Very, very few short QBs get drafted that high. You just have a weird fetish for guys named Baker that grab themselves on national television.
no on the contrary it speaks to the dearth of talent at the quarterback position
You mean the history of the NFL … like over the last 15 yrs. Except for Matthew Stafford (6’2″) who was the first overall pick in ’09. And Vick (6′), who was the first overall pick in ’01.
Matthew Stafford…6’2″. Like I’ve said twice now, Vick is a really bad comp.
Mitch Trubisky, 6’2″, second overall pick last year.
Mitch, Trubisky…6’2″.
Yes, 1″ taller than Baker.
honestly most don’t care what you think.
Obviously most care enough to respond.
the irony here is that the algorithms and models show (the data) show that taller QBs tend to perform better
it prob makes a difference, but a guy who is successful at high levels of college prob matters more than his height
ESPN radio just had a bit about Mayfield and (lesser extent) Rosen and how both of those guys are teetering on the razor edge of confidence and d-bag cockiness.
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The Redskins sent us a press release with the names of the guys there for the team. I’ll have to dig it out.
did we sign Hankins yet?
Yes.
I already told you we did…
…he just doesn’t know it yet
I thought that was yesterday my friend
Let’s play guess the QB:
Both QBs are 6’0″ and between 210-220 lbs
QB #1
Played in the Big 12
68.9% completion percentage and a collegiate QB rating of 164.1, and won the Heisman
QB#2
Played in the Big 12
68.5% completion percentage and a collegiate QB rating of 175.4, and won the Heisman.
Based on these stats, both should succeed, because height doesn’t matter.
Kind of a weird assumption, right? Or do you think because height DOES matter all QBs who are 6’3″ – 6’4″ succeed in the NFL?
I’m guessing Russell Wilson is one of those
No, it’s Johnny Manziel and Mayfield. Wilson played in the Big 10.
Oops ty
Safe to say that Manziel didn’t bomb out because of his height.
NOILRMOT DC!
Baker Mayfield is 6’1″ — not 6’0″.
No, that’s incorrect. Mayfield is a between 6’0″ even and 6’1″ even.
Dude … he measured at 6′.9″…. He’s listed at 6’1″.
^That’s 5’11’ in Steve Thomas Math.
We should trade for Brock Osweiler, because … 6’8″!!
One of the 7th rounders
Could use another camp arm
At least Flacco (6’6″).
Fewer QB’s over 6′ 6″ have succeeded than 6’0″ and under. Pretty much none.
True. The sweet spot for QBs in the modern era is between 6’2″ and 6’5″.
I’m thinking a big part of that is because those are the guys who tend to get drafted high … as opposed to shorter QBs who got drafted high didn’t pan out.
You could probably throw in a ham sandwich and get Paxton Lynch (6’7″) too.
Ruh, roh, I see a DC math debate going on below…..
Mayfield is now up to 7 feet give or take a foot.
Apparently 72 inches = 74 inches. That’s what I’m getting out of it.
Yep… that’s D_C math…
111=250
miles to kilometers?
111% =250%
I guessed you missed that argument
probably, not here too many evenings, and if it was today, I just got back to civilization half an hour ago.
Maybe a month and a half ago
Duh, typo.
Apparently 61 inches = 60 inches, according to Steve.
And 62″ is WAAAAAY taller than 61″!!
I mean, that’s like 1.6% taller!
60/62 inches? Mayfiled is at best 5 feet 2 inches? Even I agree that that’s pretty short.
Love when I can succesfully throw gasoline on a fire.
Bobby Belt @BobbyBeltTX
Let’s take a brief brief break from draft talk for some odd #Cowboys roster news. I’m told the team has asked defensive tackle Lewis Neal to convert to fullback.
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Umm, 6′, 298 lbs.
Well let’s see that and raise with 347 lbs of Vea.
NFL Draft - 2 HOURS: 54 MINUTES
Have we signed Hankins yet?
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This afternoon is crawling. Ugh
Much like NPI’s dates when he takes them home….
Hey-oooo!
Opening day roster in 2017 Power 5 College Conferences (SEC, ACC, Pac-12, Big Ten, Big 12)
the Big 12 conference ranked 5th in number of players on rosters
or last with 148 players
SEC 359
ACC 267
Big Ten 267
Pac-12 250
the AAC was closer to Big 12 than the Big 12 was to Pac-12
so from an NFL perspective it is really Power 4 Conferences
Here’s to dropping back a few for some Payne
I’d like to see that to draft Guice.
Steve Thomas Team Captain Coach JS • an hour ago
Any time I hear about a QB’s intangibles being his best quality – “he’s a winner; he’s competitive” etc etc, that raises alarm bells. Tim Tebow was all of those things, too.
Mayfield is too short and the history of Big 12 spread QBs in the NFL is pretty awful. He may work out, but I think he has several strikes against him to the point that I wouldn’t take him at the top of round 1 just because I needed a QB.
https://twitter.com/PFF_Cam/status/986346986025693185
First of all, I have very little interest in PFF. I believe them to be frauds. But taking their crap to be true for the sake of this argument, none of those numbers take into account that Mayfield was playing in the Big 12 conference, facing no defenses of any note at all. It all sounds wonderful, to you apparently, but I don’t believe that Mayfield is going to translate to the NFL very well.
And you shouldn’t just ignore the fact that there’ve only been a small handful of short QBs in the modern era who’ve succeeded – Wilson, Brees, Vick, Flutie. Wilson=back of round 3, good gamble; Brees=top of rd 2, fine; Vick=round 1, pick 1 but was thought of as a revolutionary talent; Flutie=11th round pick in 1985. He’s not as fast or athletic as Wilson or Vick (plus Vick had a stronger arm), and there’s no basis to think that he’s going to become one of the most accurate QBs in history like Brees. Flutie was a long time ago.
Mayfield is being considered as a top of the draft pick. As a lower pick? Sure. But at the top of the draft? No way, no how, never. It’s too big of a risk Rosen and Darnold are better, cleaner prospects, to me.
best stat
List of Big 12 QBs with big success in NFL:
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Close calls
Sam Bradford, RG3, Landry Jones, Kliff Kingsbury, Michael Bishop, Vince Young, Seneca Wallace
I thought Kliff Kingsbury was a weatherman in Toledo…..
he makes $3.7M/year as Texas Tech head coach which is way more than his NFL salary
You could add Troy Aikman, Ryan Tannehill, and Kordell Stewart. Or if you want to go back farther, Steve Grogan and Lynn Dickey.
Crickets…..
Baker Mayfield in the eleventeenth!!!
In this case PFF is simply ranking QBs based on their completion % and passer rating on various throws. Silly to take issue with that.
The truth is that Mayfield has the best stats of any college QB in NCAA history. Of course you do have to take into account the level of competition and the type of offense he ran. I’m still high on him because he’s deadly accurate, has a good arm, and he takes care of the ball. Apparently he’s also pretty bright and he’s a rare leader.
If you’re going to knock him because he played in a spread offense you’ll have to apply that same criticism Sam Darnold and most of the QBs coming out of college these days.
It would be nice if he was a little taller, but do you honestly think being 1″ taller would give him a totally different view of the field? Because there are a bunch of 6’2″ QBs who are pretty good, starting with a guy named Aaron Rodgers.
In terms of physical traits, I’d take Mayfield’s lack of height over Rosen’s penchant for concussions and other injuries any day of the week.
Mayfield is Rosen’s bitch.
Rosen just got another concussion putting his helmet on. Out 6-8 weeks.
Meanwhile, Mayfield won’t be sitting for quite some time.
On height, you’re ignoring the historical record. He’s too short.
I do knock Darnold for things, mostly the fact that he makes more than his share of dumb decisions. Rosen is the guy who’s most pro ready and has the best chance to succeed, to me.
You’re hyper focused on college stats. I appreciate the numbers, too, obviously, but it’s not all about that. Mayfield is pretty clearly a risk.
The reason Big 12 QBs don’t succeed is the offenses they run, the poor defenses they face, and the huge talent gap between the haves and have nots that they face. Mayfield might make it, but the odds are against it. I’d draft him, but just not at the top of round 1.
Sonny Jurgensen, 5’11”, Joe Theismann, 6’0″, Mark Brunell, 6’1″
…when the league was shorter…
Sonny Juergensen played in the 1970s. Joey T. played in the 1980s. Mark Brunnell, 1990s. What does that have to do with today’s NFL?
You said I was ignoring the historical record.
Sure, if you want to go back 40 or more years, you’ll find lots of 6′ QBs. You’ll also find 250 pound, 6’2″ tackles.
Brunnell is your best argument, but even then, he was a 5th round pick. Good solid risk, there.
Doesn’t matter where they were picked. It only matter how they play.
Fine, let’s look at the recent NFL. Two of the more recent Super Bowl winners were Drew Brees at 6′ and Russell Wilson at 5’11”.
I already addressed both of them above.
And Aaron Rodgers at 6’2″.
Now you want to say that height doesn’t matter except when it comes to Mayfield? lol
Once again, you’re ignoring the record.
Wilson
Brees
Vick
That’s it, in modern times. 3, including two with other-worldly ahtleticism. that Mayfield doesn’t have. I’ll even throw in Brunnell for you if you want, so 4.
You could also throw in Aaron Rodgers, Andy Dalton (both 6’2″), and Doug Flutie (5’10”).
Mayfield doesn’t have the physical ability to play in the NFL like Russell Wilson, and anyone who’s banking on any college prospect to be as hyper-accurate as Drew Brees is a fool – he’s a HOFer.
DC 2″
It’s the Big TWELVE!
I’m a MAN!
Twin Peaks waitresses in the Chicago area say they were forced to line up for weekly body evaluations, wear lingerie that exposed their buttocks and change clothes in full view kitchen staff, according to a complaint filed with the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission.
a breasturant did some funny, who would have thought it
Nerd Alert
A new anime-inspired series will give fans a window into the history leading up to The Force Awakens.
Star Wars: Resistance will focus on Kazuda Xiono, a young pilot recruited to help spy on the First Order — coming into contact with such familiar figures as X-wing hotshot Poe Dameron and the menacing Captain Phasma.
A debut date hasn’t been specified, but Lucasfilm says the new show will premiere in the fall, airing first on the Disney Channel and then on Disney XD.
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Disney is going to make back the billions it spent on buying LucasFilms
I was bitterly disappointed in The Last Jedi. It sort of ruined the entire saga for me.
Luke Skywalker should have not ended up a whiny bitch Jedi
“not ended up”??????? Was he ever anything but?
Yeah, that was my biggest problem with it. They totally changed his character. And since they killed him, none of the original main characters who speak in something other than grunts or squeaks are alive.
Luke was a whiny bitch in the original trilogy, as was Anakin in EP.1-3
Tell him
Alone, with a bunch a midget nun caretakers….you’d lose your marbles some too.
I thought it was just okay. Not as godawful as the Phantom Menace/Clones/Revenge of the Sith but not nearly as good as the original 3 and Rogue 1.
I’m starting to realize that we’re all probably trying to relive a part of our childhood through the Star Wars movie; recapture that joy the movies gave us when we were children.
Fact is, probably can’t do that anyway. As much as I have always looked forward to them creating new Star Wars movies, they probably should never have done them. The only one that’s been worth a damn IMO has been Rogue One, probably because it followed its own storyline.
Han Solo – May 25th
Clearly better than Luke
Looking forward to that one.
The clone wars was a good show
Rebels also.
who is Dallas looking at for #19:
Leighton Vander Esch, linebacker, Boise State
Harold Landry, defensive end, Boston College
James Daniels, guard, Iowa
D.J. Moore, receiver, Maryland
Calvin Ridley, receiver, Alabama
Here’s hoping it’s Landry
Dallas may take one of our DBs in 3
Wonder if any player wears a clown suit [Zeewok] tonight?
All right. Later, peeps. I’ll catch you around 8pm. Should be interesting.
Make it a great one!
My God, what a gorgeous day in Austin. 72 degrees with a slight breeze and no clouds. Had to bug out and hit an emergency 18 holes with a good friend.
We’re going to get a player in the 1st round. I’m feeling it.
Keep that voodoo rollin’
Same here. Superb weather this afternoon.
Spotted a Beto sticker a bit ago.
They’re everywhere. That and yard signs.
No they aren’t
Not around here
As nice as the weather is……the fish ain’t bitin’
Getting warmed up around here
Gonna try it again this weekend
No luck with the Crawfish colors?
Not yet
Was slow rolling the spinner last weekend
Slowly
Slow is good, get that color right.
I got black and white
Need to extend the colors
Yeah, match the Crawfish color where you are, or as close as you can.
Bold predicton: we trade Kerrigan for a 1, 3 and next years 2 and 4
Fine by me with that return
13. Washington
Best case scenario: A top-five quarterback falls, allowing for a lucrative trade down
Worst case scenario: Quarterbacks and defensive talent fly off the board quick
Washington’s terrible defense could use playmakers at every level. And the team hasn’t made much effort to hide the fact that it’d be interested in scooping up more draft picks to address that problem multiple times.
“Depending on where the quarterbacks start to go in this draft, there will be an opportunity to move around in this draft to make sure we get maybe extra picks,” team president Bruce Allen told NBC Sports Washington.
There’s no easier way to pull off a blockbuster trade in the NFL Draft than to leverage a quarterback. If the top five are all off the board, Washington probably won’t have much luck moving down. That’d be a truly unfortunate scenario if it also coincided with several of the top defensive players going in the top 12.
Who knows how Washington ranks the defensive talent in the draft class, but if Bradley Chubb, Roquan Smith, Tremaine Edmunds, Minkah Fitzpatrick, and another defensive player or two are gone, it’d leave the team with few options.
Take a WR, then!
I think we may have to trade down at a minor discount, because so many other teams want to do this too.
But it could still end up a great deal for us.
If the Browns are that dumb to go qb at 1…and the ginas land Barkley, I’m cursing the the Browns with the curse to end all curses. The burning itching seeping crotch curse.
They had better like all 3 QBs equally then because after passing on Wentz, Watson, etc. and missing so many other times their fans may burn down their HQ if they miss out on the top QB again.
Between 1 and 4, he’ll still be there
The woman Cosby assaulted is incredibly unattractive. Wow.
Lol, you’re so polite.
Yes only pretty women should be raped.
— Misogynists International
It’s called an “observation”. Do you think she’s attractive?
Yes – No one, and Noone
It’s a non sequitur vis a vie sexual assualts
Just squint your eyes…
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Janso Canofsoda throws his mock out
#13 – De’ron Payne
I’m good with that
HTTRsince65 Back to the good ol daysBruce • 6 minutes ago
or a guy that uses a branch to whip, welt and bleed a toddler even on his genitals, after having stuffed his mouth full of leaves to muffle the screams!
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AP, right?
yes. he’s a pos
Sure is.
Fucking deplorable person. I hope he gets his.
Yep
Yea
All these qb’s seem like flawed one’s. Would anyone here trade AS for one of the college qb’s in the draft? If so, which one?
Heck no…proven high level vet for one of these rookies…heck no.
well some seem enamored with these guys. i don’t like any of them all that much. If we did that, we’d get a young qb and more picks tho….we’re not SB bound this year
Trade AS to Cleveland for their 2 first round picks…lol. I’m serious. Then we can trade one or more of those first rounders for more 2nd and 3rd round picks and truly do a rebuild and fill holes. We could roll with Colt until the rook is ready.
All of them are flawed. I think Rosen is the least flawed, and Allen is the most.
Rosen – attitude, injury risk, slim build
Darnold – in-game decision making
Mayfield – too short, Big 12 guy, from a spread, can’t use his athleticism in the same was as he did at OU
Jackson – accuracy, footwork, slim build
Allen – very inaccurate
Rudolph – spread system, Big 12, accuracy
How many more picks? I didn’t see that part of the deal….
My problem with it isn’t that Smith is so great. He should be pretty solid for a few years, but who can tell?
His floor is probably McNabb/Todd Collins/Mark Brunell. His ceiling is Brad Johnson/Cousins….
But, if you trade for a rookie and start him, we are likely going 5-11… 6-10… then Gruden is getting shown the door.
Then the new coach is going to want “his guy” so it was a waste all along.
I think he’s better than you do, apparently. Numbers-wise, he’s been playing the best football of his career over past couple years, like top 5-10 QB numbers.
he had a MUCH better team around him and a rushing attack
Well, hopefully we’re about to draft an elite RB and fix our LG hole.
still…
Floor-ceiling?
I think if he plays like Cousins/Johnson that will be awesome. And I think he can do it. But I also think he could be more pedestrian. Like 2007 level Collins. 05 Brunell. Maybe McNabb wasn’t fair.
But last year he had some serious weapons and several years in the same system. Expecting that out of him, while wearing a Redskins uni, with an unproven cast, in a new system, is a setup for disappointment, imo.
Well we’re paying AS a mint. Question is how much longer does he have and are we close enough to compete for a championship? If it’s under 3 yrs than you have to consider a replacement very soon.
i thought we didn’t overpay??
Overpaid is relative. Useless if we’re still 3+ years away. Same way I feel about norman. Good to great player but totally unnecessary at this point in time
Sorry, I’m taking a rookie over a 33 year old, and I’d make that same call at every position on the roster. Give me the guy who can potentially be the starter for the next 15+ years. I really like Rosen and Mayfield from what I’ve seen.
I think Mayfield is going to end up being not nearly as good as everyone seems to think.
i dont like him
Schlereth (i think) likened his attention grabbing to RGIII. Immediate red flag.
Mayfield can thrive with the Saints, IF he is as driven as people say, and less petty than people indicate.
He has a Brees-like quality. But if he is really keeping all these “grudge lists” and stuff, he’s a head case and that doesn’t work well at QB, generally speaking.
Any time I hear about a QB’s intangibles being his best quality – “he’s a winner; he’s competitive” etc etc, that raises alarm bells. Tim Tebow was all of those things, too.
Mayfield is too short and the history of Big 12 spread QBs in the NFL is pretty awful. He may work out, but I think he has several strikes against him to the point that I wouldn’t take him at the top of round 1 just because I needed a QB.
I see his accuracy as his best trait. But I would put him behind Darnold and Rosen for sure.
I was never a fan, pre-AS, when folks were mocking him to us.
If, (and I know this would be impossible) you told me the Redskins could trade away their entire roster for the top 15 draft picks, and do a start from scratch rebuild. I’d take that deal.
gotcha
UDFA’s
Remaining vet FA’s to fill it out.
But I’ll take young talent over vets any day.
Fun idea. So… in no particular order…
QB of choice
Barkley
Nelson
Fitz
James
McGlinchy
Smith
Edmunds
Ward
J. Alexander
Chubb
Vea
Payne
Hernandez
Ridley
Landry or Davenport
Can we keep TWill, Scherff and Kerrigan? Pretty please?
Could you imagine if the NFL would let a team go nuclear option on the roster? Lets say you have to go 0-16 like the Browns. Would be a lot of fun seeing that change the game.
I think the speed/strength/football IQ adjustment part would make the team really, really bad for at least a year, maybe more.
Plus, some of them would get injured or be busts. Probably wouldn’t work at all. But it’s a great, fun idea. In theory.
Obviously there would be some busts and growing pains.
But probably would be easier for Cleveland to re-build that way than to build with what they had.
In no particular order:
QB Rosen
RB Barkley
RB Guice
G Nelson
T McGlinchey
G Hernandez
DE Landry
DT Payne
DT Vea
DE Chubb
LB Smith
LB Edmunds
CB Ward
S Fitzpatrick
S James
Yes I go 2 RB’s, because why not if we are making up a crazy silly hypothetical.
No WR in a passing league?
That’s why I took two CBs and Ridley. But just from a BPA standpoint, yours is probably better.
so an 80 year old facing 3 10 year sentences (can be served concurrently or consecutively)
life expectancy is …
idgaf
white female is 9 years
white male is 7 years
so less than 7 I’m sure
I think the court needs to ensure that he dies in prison. I don’t want to hear about him getting out and having a good last few years.
instead of prison how about a really shitty nursing home in South FL that is not air conditioned and all he gets is Medicare to live on
medicaid
Same way I feel about idiot terrorist shooting up waffle houses but walking around on bail..
or a guy that uses a branch to whip, welt and bleed a toddler even on his genitals, after having stuffed his mouth full of leaves to muffle the screams!
Well, that guy might get the death penalty, which is even better.
If death penalty is a remote possibility bail shouldn’t even be on the table
Bail in multiple homicide cases is very rare.
Cosby found guilty of 3 counts of aggravated indecent assault. Max 10 years on each count, so I’m rooting for 10 years on each, consecutive.
I doubt he would make it past the first 10 years.
Good.
He’ll get a split, concurrent sentence, 4/6, or 4/6+20 consecutive. Why? Cause money talks.
If he’s really got the juice, 1 year county, life on probation.
CHOMOs and Rapists often get off easy.
Money talks a whole lot less post-verdict.
I hope you’re right.
@mlombardiNFL
Hearing Browns will trade 4, but only when they are on the clock, not before the pick and they don’t want to go down too far.
If Rosen’s available at 4, Skins should trade up.
pot stirrer
Probably already posted, but…
PFT Mock from last night has us taking Minkah with Vea and Payne on the board still.
Payne goes first, fwiw, Vea goes to Dallas….
If you are the Browns, which QB do you take?
If I’m the browns, I take the RB at #1, grab a QB at 4.
Personally my order of the QB’s: Rosen, Mayfield, Darnold.
I think their order sounds like it’s Allen, Mayfield, Darnold.
That’s interesting. I’ve thought that the Browns might do better if they just sort of let fate decide it.
Take BPA–Barkley or Chubb, depending on your POV–and then BQBA at 4.
I think Rosen is the safest bet, and probably who the Browns should take. They can’t afford a full bust. Kerry Collins/Blake Bortles they could withstand. Akili Smith/Jake Locker might break the factory of sadness.
Exactly my thinking too. Rosen at worst looks like a guy who has a so-so, up and down 10 year career.
I think both Mayfield and Darnold are safe bets, both are gonna probably be more turnover prone, but you can still build around them if you know what you’re doing.
Basically grab one of those 3, and take a year, figure out what they like to do, are they going to the TE more? Chucking it deep to a WR on the edge? With any QB I’m a big believer in finding the kind of receivers they have comfort with.
My order is Rosen, Darnold, Mayfield, Jackson, Rudolph, Allen.
Barkley and Nelson
You’re really nailing the part, fwiw
Which part?
Rosen
So glad I’m not the car behind the 40 year old who just got to Earth and can’t figure out the gas pump.
Hey, he may have been from New Jersey.
True
Or an space alien in a skin suit
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That’s a grade a backside
Even if we draft DL I still want to get Hankins
So if Saints sent 27, next year’s 1 and a 3… would you take it?
PFT reports they are looking to move up for QB.
yeah
Absolutely
Without thinking twice
For 13?
I probably would, unless a guy we love is there. Got to think big picture with any trade offers and having 2 1st round picks next year would really let this team get right long term.
Two firsts
Three thirds
Is Mike Ditka back in N.O.?
Yes… immediately
No
Any reason? Too little return? Too big a drop? Just curious.
Too big of a drop. I’ll worry about next year’s draft next year.
What would it take for you to move back to 27?
There should still be a good G or RB left at that point.
I wouldn’t move back to 27, period, at least not for any offer that would actually happen. I’m not a big trade back guy for a team like the Redskins – we need talent.
Cosby found guilty
Stick that in your pudding pop Bill!
Puddin his fingers where they shouldn’t be
zippy bobbity bitty zappyidy zoo
“At one point, Smith said “they” (presumably, Allen’s agents) sent Smith a clip from Modern Family supporting Allen’s view that he wasn’t speaking in his own voice but making a reference to the TV show.” — PFT
Looks like CAA (Allen’s reps) made the case that the old tweets were just Allen alluding to Modern Family jokes.
Still very dumb jokes to repeat, and a reminder of the permanence of stuff on the internet, but should help mitigate his slide.
Who his agent be? I need to write that shit down – Bree
Well, now I wouldn’t draft him because he watches Modern Family.
p1funk
an hour ago
What’s your favorite form of draft-dooshery?
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I don’t feel like any of the networks have enough scrolling text, side bar graphics, screen in screen shots or other data on the screen during the draft. They need to add more! Also-I hate how all the talking head analysts are so respectful and never talk over each other. I’d like them to be more boisterous and loud.
If they sign Hankins, I would think it’d happen after the draft.
If, say, Minkah falls to them in the first, Guice in the second, and then a quality G in the fourth, I could see them overpaying Hankins to fill that need.
I think that’s the case too. Why make a move on a guy when you might draft someone beforehand.
Safe to assume, if they don’t take a G or DT early they will need to go to the scrap yard.
I see that- but from Hankins standpoint I could also see wanting to get a deal done before the draft lest his bargaining position be diminished should a team interested in him draft a stud DL.
On the other side, though, Hankins would potentially be able to leverage whatever teams still had holes at DL.
Or, see where he would be a sure starter vs a backup.
Have we signed Hankins yet?
LOL- Nothing better than bad lip reading videos
https://youtu.be/_zCDvOsdL9Q
Bring your kid to work day here
coworker’s kid: Dad, why don’t you have any markers for your whiteboard? [he hid them]
Noone: Because we took them away because he kept getting marker ink all over his hands and face
coworker’s kid: Wow, wait until I tell Mom. Can I use one of your markers?
Noone: No
coworker’s kid: Why?
Noone: Because we’re afraid the marker thing is genetic
coworker’s kid: What does genetic mean?
Noone: Means, you would get maker ink all over yourself just like your Dad
I’ve been genetically profiled!!
— Kid
5pm today
Noone- how did all four of my tires go flat?
I told him my car is the white Corvette in the parking lot
that’s the big boss’s penis car
he wanted to go for a ride in it
the kid evidently wants to be computer hacker who drives a Corvette when he grows up
Yep, Tyktw day. Or as the other AV guy here called it, the best birth control you can get.
Colts wanna trade up for Chubb.
Walter Cherepinsky
@walterfootball
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They shouldn’t have traded down then.
LOL right WTF
Do the Colts even know what their new scheme is……
Do the Colt’s know anything?
Seriously, a terribly run front office.
That’s just not how you do business!
— Charlie C.
Can’t see how y’all would think Earl Thomas to Dallas for a 2nd rounder would be a good thing. He’s 28, one of the best safeties in the league, and has shown no signs of slowing down.
I don’t like the idea. That seems too cheap.
I want Dallas to get raked over the coals. Two 1sts and a 3rd sounds right.
Correct. Also, I don’t know how they can sign him with their cap issues. He’d have to give them a pretty big break for 2018.
Six time pro bowler, including last year … three time first team all pro. One of the best safeties of all time, in his prime. No thanks.
29
Do you understand how age affects these things
He’s getting long in the tooth and wants a new contract
It’s a deal Vinny would love
Turns 29 may 9th
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No thanks
Dianna Russini
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The Giants are still meeting this afternoon in the draft room but what is going on as of now?
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Bustini covers the Giants now. Wonder if Gettleman is getting his junx ready?
She’d ESPN general coverage, but she spends a lot of her time on the NY teams.
Graziano is the Giants ESPN guy, Russini is general NFL coverage like Squinns said
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NOOOOooooooooo
Do it
Defensive player about to hit his 30’s
Yep. I’d be good with that.
Turn the big 39 tomorrow. Any advise for the last year of my 30’s from you old geezers?
Don’t start doing meth
haha I won’t. I value my teeth!!
Weed and hookers?🤷🏿♂️
Nice..
Don’t be depressed about it, you’ll feel the same at 40……. I’ll give you an update when I’m 50.
I feel great. Not sad at all.
It was all good for me until I hit 55 — like the warranty ran out when I hit 54.
Oh I’m thinking long before that
“I’m thinking”
Obvious error in your response.
Don’t drink any water before going to bed
Refine yourself and your tastes
Keep learning
Get more sex than you did in your 30s
Happy Birthday in advance.
I’m 43 and I can run farther faster and do more push-ups than I could at 19, 29, or even 39.
But then my habits are also way better than those ages too. That’s the key, because if I lived like 29 now, I’d be a hurt piece.
my wife’s 39th was yesterday, we went out for drinks and a nice dinner, got tired, one friends stomach was upset from too much rich food, so we called it a night, everyone was home by 8.
our anniversary is Friday. We went out last night at 5 to celebrate, just in case.
LOL.
My anniversary is Sunday.
We are going to an Amusement Park and staying in a cheap hotel.
AM or PM
PM
Sorry Doug. The Redskins roster is not already good. As compared to the opponents on our schedule there is significant work to do…
Think Raiders game roster, not Chargers game roster. It’ll make you feel better.
Will anyone’s wife watch the draft with them?
Mine loves the Skins and rarely will miss a game (unless it gets late and ugly–she fell asleep on the S. Moss Dallas comeback, ya’ll…. SMDH) But for the life of me, I can find no way to get her interested in the draft. Not a bit.
Not a chance I told my wife I’m having a few buddies over to watch the draft and Caps tonight cause tomorrow is my Bday and I took off work Friday. She was not happy. She said “make sure your not loud cause I HAVE TO WORK FRIDAY”
Mine will. Or at least she’ll sit in front of the TV reading her iPad while the draft is on. She’ll even sit there on day 3, having serious questions about my mental stability as I rattle off facts about players being drafted in the 7th round.
Will she be fully inflated?
Not by day three!
Depends on whether we draft Vea.
My wife is making nachos for the draft. She will tolerate me watching the draft. Best I can expect. She’ll occasionally try and chit chat during the show when I would prefer to watch it quietly and maybe blog with y’all.
Arizona traded up to get LAMAR. Final Mock of the year. Good Luck Skins.
Your score is: 21753 (GRADE: A-)
Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 15 (ARI): Vea, Vita, DT, Washington (A)
Round 2 Pick 12: Michel, Sony, RB, Georgia (A-)
Round 3 Pick 15 (ARI): Jewell, Josey, ILB, Iowa (A)
Round 3 Pick 33 (ARI): Teller, Wyatt, OG, Virginia Tech (A)
Round 4 Pick 9: Cain, Deon, WR, Clemson (A+)
Round 5 Pick 5: Hill, Holton, CB, Texas (A+)
Round 5 Pick 26: Adeniyi, Olasunkanmi, DE/OLB, Toledo (A+)
Round 6 Pick 14: Ford, Poona, DT, Texas (A+)
Round 7 Pick 13: Watts, Armani, FS, Texas AM (A+)
Round 7 Pick 23: McDermott, KC, OT, Miami (FL) (A)
Holton Hill
Saved my best mock for last. If this happens…I’d be stoked.
I like it.
What’s your favorite form of draft-dooshery? Here are a couple of mine:
*the talking heads acting like their projections matter and what they do is important
*Mel Kiper publishing a mock draft for next season the day after the draft
*the talking heads publishing a revised mock draft every week for 6 months leading up to the draft, thus giving them an opportunity to say that they “got the pick right in one of their mock drafts” about virtually every pick
Folks say so and so has a marginal arm. Then they become a star, and everybody is like “Oh, what a cannon.”
Or the reverse.
D) all of the above
E) Fuck Dallas
F) Mara
I must say one of my favorite parts of the draft is watching Roger Goodell endure a hearty round of “boos” when he takes the stage to kick things off.
Regardless of geographic location
Steve, bro, what does it feel like having to play the role of “mod” up here. I forget the WaPo mod’s name – it was a woman, I think – but we used to kill her for deleting comments.
Teddy Amenabar was the grand poobah
I remember Ray Maluga was who we were supposed to get one year. Cinci took him and he had a good career as a MLB….kinda under the radar but pretty good. If we get Vea and he turns out to be like Peko or Hgnata….then we did good. Solid 8-10 year player at a huge PON.
My final mock draft of the 2018 season:
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Walton is a sleeper.
Thing I like about Walton and all the smaller backs is pairing them in rotation with CT, thus allowing him more touches on 1st and 2nd.
I don’t know if Gruden would view it that way though.
I liked that he could take over for CT if CT got injured, but can also be lead back. Tough choice between him and Freeman at that spot.
Doesn’t Freeman feel a little like Perine 2.0?
Lots of production, but also wear on the tread. Marginal burst/athleticism.
Having a second Perine could help though in case of injury.
You’re reading my mind, JS. STOP IT!
Ya’ll are the same dude – NPI
Lol. That went on for weeks.
I thought you were Disco for a bit.
Griffin?
Lotta heart in that kid. I’d not frown that selection.
Love his heart, but he can also play his ass off.
Still pulling for me, eh, DC? You rite. You rite.
–RG
Side note: every player selected in rounds 1-6 except Shaq Griffin is in Mayock’s Top 100.
No Skylar Phillips
Fail
I think this year…the top guys won’t really fall. Grant and Danny had a scout on (forget his name) and he said he doesn’t anticipate any of the Chubb, Barkley, Nelson, James, Smith, Ward, Fitzpatrick’s to fall. Said McGlinchey is def in play for a top 10, then it may happen. Said it’s Vea or Payne for us.
If that run on QBs happens…
Well that’s 8 names including McGlinch….so that leaves us….Vea or Payne.
If the 4 QBs go. I;m hoping for the Pats to jump to 13 and snag Lamar before Baltimore can.
Is drafting vita worth dc up here crowing about it every day??
Even if he becomes the greatest DL in history I’m not sure……
What’s that you used to say on TI? “The ignore feature”…
Might have to go full, Block User if that happens.
Would you rather we take Payne and he busts?
Personally, I’d love to see you and DC high fiving each other for the next 12 years as Vea leads our D to a renaissance on his way to a gold jacket. That would be a sight to see! 🙂
I just ate lunch, and I’d appreciate keeping it down, thanks.
Think how much fun you’d have if he turns out to be a bust!
That’s it…….sell it, c’mon, seeellllllll iiiiitttttt.
You’d just lie an deny everything
So, I’ve realized during the pre-draft process that last year spoiled me.
After getting such a great talent to drop to us, I think I will be somewhat disappointed this year unless it happens again (Nelson, Barkley, Chubb, and to a lesser degree Fitz, James, Smith).
That’s irrational, and I admit it, but I think it’s a real phenomenon. Last year was just so cool. Allen was pretty much at the very top of my board.
Ironically, this year, J Allen, is one of my “throw a shoe” picks at 13.
The odds of it happening again aren’t good, for sure.
All irrational people are racists!
2nd rate comedians as well!
What about fourth rate like myself?
Free beer
Good deal.
Bet
My first deleted post
Why did you delete your post?
I deleted it.
I realize you were joking, but we can’t have stuff like that here.
BAN HIM!
Way to pop that cherry, rook!
Welcome to the club!
I don’t discriminate; I hate all of you mudder fuggers equally, whether you’re white, black, purple or orange!
I think “ethnic group” is a made-up thing without any real meaning. It’s a stupid way to look at people. The fact that somebody’s ancestors come from some certain part of the globe is irrelevant.
Re: Racism
I recall sitting in the back of a limo in NYC on the way to my grandfather-in-law’s burial site after his funereal a couple years ago. The driver was a “local” chatty fella with all kinds of things to say about all kinds of things. At one point, he started up on race/ethnicity – the blacks, Italians, Jews, Arabs, Chinese, Russians…you name it. No one was off limits and he was stereotyping them all. My sister-in-law and I were in the waaay back looking at each other trying not to totally crack up. After getting dropped off at the burial site (as well as being privileged to a brief informal tour of all the mafia-family tombstones in the graveyard, courtesy of our friendly driver), my wife, sister-in-law and I posed a question:
If someone is an equal-opportunity across-the-board racist…are they actually racist?
Discuss.
yes if you hate everyone equally, you cannot possibly be racist and you qualify for the lifetime Archie Bunker achievement award
But Archie loved him some white Protestant guys.
To be fair, our driver was not “hateful” in his words, per se. Just very plain and matter-of-fact in a NY-kind-of-way about some massively sweeping insulting stereotypes.
So true in NYC. Funny part is that they really believe those stereotypes, and they don’t mean anything by it; just the way it is.
When he started piping up about the Jews, my mother-in-law let him know that he had a “Jew-girl” in the car (herself). He smiled and said that he used to date one himself. He was as friendly as ever. But yeah…it was very NY. You can’t get away with that stuff around DC area though. The PC-culture is quite widespread.
Funny, growing up in DC there really weren’t a focus on those different ethnicities. In NYC, its really diverse with different ethnic communities, the Irish, the Itelaians, the Russians, the Russian Jews, the Orthodox Jews, the Indians (not to be confused with Pakistanis), etc. Really a very different world. At least when I was growing up in DC, there weren’t all those ethnic communities.
MoCo to PG stretch was like the poor man’s UN as I grew up in the DC area. I’m not from the city itself though…kid from the ‘burbs.
Yes, but not distincty cultural/ethnic communities in NYC. Very different. In MoCo and PG, just a bunch of po folk, regardless of race. I mean, where they all kinda live in the same area.
Very true that in NYC the neighborhoods and communities retained a very insulated cultural/ethnic feel – moreso than in the DC area.
Where I was, regardless of ethnicity…the social classes were rednecks, burnouts, nerds, jocks, skaters, bikers, and jews.
Nothing about anyone’s ethnicity came up until we got out to the sticks.
I guess it depends on the era, in Arlington by the 90’s we had 100’s of nationalities and people were clear about what ethnic group they belonged too especially first generation kids.
Prejudice is not racism.
Okay, how about this: give me a specific player, not just a position, who you’d feel the need to throw a shoe over if the Redskins drafted him in the 13th spot.
Albert Haynesworth
Anyone last name WR
Sony Michel
Calvin Ridley
Josh Allen
Josh Jackson
Lamar Jackson
reading comprehension 101 – give me a specific player, not just a position
a player would be 1 person and position would like WR
but we peeps are total rule breakers
Comprehending sarcasm 101 – I’m not telling, this is too much fun.
Easy answer.
BRIAN ALLEN MICHIGAN STATE
If they pick him at 13, I’ll be really upset.
Any of the QB’s after just acquiring Smith. He’s up there in age but this isn’t the year to do it IMO.
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How the hell is a word taboo?
Makes no damn sense.
What makes even less sense is the politically correct equivalent used on TV. Which means the exact same thing.
Fuck sake.
^cracker ass cracker
All words have a meaning to them.
There is a societal component to all language. It can tell us not just what someone is saying but who someone is, things like education, class, where in the country they are from. A single word change in a sentence can take you from being eloquent to being a guy who speaks at a 3rd grade level.
In the case of slurs it tells us what you think, and tells us a lot about your beliefs, about who you are as a person and how you were raised.
↓ see below
Context is everything.
Casual use is neither racism nor is it hate speech.
It’s patently absurd to make a word….a word for fuck sake, taboo.
Not if you seek control, if you are desperately grasping as euphoric academia slips away……..
This is rather pompous, and easily defeated. A person can inject all sorts of words, expressions, and mannerisms into their speech, or writing, to send you down the wrong trail. I know, for a fact, that you are not Clarice Starling, nor are you Dr. Lecter.
Sorry, guys. I don’t want to sour draft day with social discussion on a difficult subject. I hope my good intentions were clear in the careful way I tried to word it. And I hope no one thought I was trying to excuse and/or minimize any racism or racist behaviors. I know no one here knows me well, but I take the subject very seriously, and care very much about finding ways to bridge the gap among the many cultures in our country.
Back to football!
damn you, you racist bastard!
lol
You’re two for two
The only thing I hate more than racism is Mexicans
lol
Alright kids… duty calls… see ya in a bit. Solve this racism thing will ya? Tired of hearing about it…
Solution we’re gonna send all the racists to live on the trash island in the pacific
Make sure you load their pockets with plenty of plastic eating enzymes first
Just for the record, I consider “racist” to mean you don’t like people of another heritage type and/or think they are genetically inferior to your heritage type. (I agree with Te-Nehesi Coates when he says in “Between the World and Me” that there is no such thing as race. Just the human race.)
What that means is, no matter how a person acts, if they are a certain heritage type, you don’t like them or think they are genetically inferior. I think a lot of people who are careless with language or joking in poor taste or angry at a given person or group in a given moment, say/text/write things that could be construed as racist, if we wanted, as a society, to go on a witch hunt. And we may.
However, I don’t think inattention to linguistic detail or poor taste or humor or anger or use inappropriate appropriation of slang words qualifies as a reason to cast such a blanket character judgement on someone as to call them “racist.”
I hate racism. And I purposely work in a school with poverty and cultural/ethnic diversity to, in part, help bridge the gap between cultures and help provide a good education to the kids trapped in our inner city district.
I don’t think true racism is as widespread as it is made out to be, and I similarly don’t think our society should be so quick to label people, especially kids, racist over a few discrete instances of indiscretion.
Sorry for the long rant. I’ll shut up about this now, and admit that I could very easily be wrong, but prefer to err on the side of giving people the benefit of the doubt.
if you’re white you are a racist by definition
well that’s what some people think
That’s racist
To be clear, the origins of that claim are that we should all be aware of the advantages to being white that still exist to this day, that we get some advantages. So you as a white person can’t help it, but you’ve probably taken advantage of those things even if not intentional, IE, you’re way less likely to have had a cop harass you because you’re white.
Now, some folks have oversimplified it. But the origins of the argument are valid.
The astonishing thing is that LOTS of white people think just the opposite: whites are disadvantaged and blacks are getting all these benefits that aren’t available to whites.
I’ve never met a white person who thinks that
they usually think that blacks are lazy and work the system to get free things
but not that whites are disadvantaged
Surprised. I have. They’ll point to affirmative action programs which actually do give blacks some advantages. On balance though, I don’t think there’s a black person in Ameria who wouldn’t switch places, advantages-wise.
so you’ve met white people who would rather be black so they can have the “advantage”
I don’t see that
No, not saying they’d rather be black, but they legitimately feel that whites suffer more discrimination.
I also don’t think that blacks would rather be white … but they do feel that they (blacks) suffer way more discrimination.
You’re a poor white. You’re constantly left out of the conversation because…you’re a poor white.
Meanwhile, poor blacks lack opportunity and a means to climb the social ladder and should be focused on to help them achieve.
There are people who I think are racists because they *generically* hate or look down on people of a different race, even if they are able to overcome their generic response on an individual basis (the, “I have a black friend,” or, “our lawyer is Jewish!” defense).
Sure. But just because someone has a black or Jewish friend, doesn’t make them racist.
Well no, of course not.
Watch out. This is not draft talk and is definitely political.
not sold on Dunbar
4 starts in 2017 – 17 tackles, 7 PD, 1 INT
I really like what I saw from Dunny
Dunbar and Norman on the outside will be fine
I don’t know if Moreau can play slot or if that is what they signed Scandrick for
also we will draft a CB at some point, and draft is pretty deep in CBs
Holsey is another unproven guy who showed some potential.
I think he has real potential, but agree that’s not enough of a track record to count on. And he’s a grizzled veteran compared to Moreau.
Yet not so veteran at corner
Dunbar has played in 40 games in 3 years and we just resigned him
so they coaches must like him some
…but he just started learning corner 3 years ago… I have a feeling Moreau has been playing it longer than that
Not much longer, Moreau was a RB/WR in HS, so he didn’t move to defense till College. That’s what his wiki bio says.
Gotcha
I threw open on our THS Twitter feed my comment about it being dumb to draft QB, T, TE, WR, CB in rd 1, but everything is fine as long as they hit. We predictably got a whole bunch of responses, including some who were advocating that the team draft Josh Rosen if he falls to 13. I don’t understand that logic.
Rosensquinnamania will be running wild, brother!
At some level I do understand it.
It is the whole “if you have a shot at the best QB in the drat you still take it” idea.
Yes it means you have to move Smith in a year or two.
I don’t understand it on any level this year.
it’s one of those mantras that some fans and even GM’s get stuck in their heads. I’m sure you know that.
It’d be idiotic, to me. For the Patriots? Yeah, I’d understand it even though Brady wants to play several more years. For us, it’d be incomprehensibly moronic, in my opinion.
Makes perfect sense to me IF you think Rosen is going to be a top 10 QB down the road. Personally I think he could be, but his history of injuries would keep me from pulling the trigger at 13.
I don’t think it would be dumb at all to draft a CB in round 1. We lost a 1st round quality CB in the Smith trade and the only proven slot CB we have on the roster is Scandrick, who isn’t very good. Beyond that we have Dunbar with 8 career starts and Moreau who’s completely unproven.
It’s not that big of a need at all, to me. I think it’d be a waste.
This just in… Steve is a needs based purist
The Redskins are going to draft a CB at some point…they historically draft a ton of DBs. But 1st round CB isn’t a good idea.
I know you think that, but it makes no sense to me. You want to have a least 4 quality CBs and we have Norman and Dunbar, who I’m not totally sold on. The rest are JAGs or question marks.
Moreau is the farthest thing from a JAG. He was a 1st round talent. He’s good.
Moreau is in the question mark category considering the fact that he’s never started an NFL game. His total NFL stat line reads: 1 PD, 4 tackles, 3 assists.
Yeah, he was supposedly a 1st round talent, but about 1/2 of your first rounders turn out to be JAGs.
If we are talking about Minkah, then by all means grab him.
But, imo, Ward is not that kind of sensational talent, just the “best” at his position, this particular year. His value is high because positional value at CB is high, and he’s the best of this batch. He still has flaws and is far from the prototype.
I am not sure Ward will end up better than Alexander or [insert top 5 CB name here].
Thus, grabbing him at 13 would be less pleasing than grabbing a similarly flawed high-PON guy.
I consider Fitzpatrick to be a safety who can play some CB.
My priority list is below — Fitzpatrick above Ward. But I do think Ward is worthy of the 13 pick if he’s the BPA.
D_C’s 1st Round Priority:
Sam Darnold
Baker Mayfield
[because you just don’t pass up a franchise QB if one falls in your lap]
Bradley Chubb
Roquan Smith
Vita Vea
Derwin James
Minkah Fitzpatrick
Tremaine Edmunds
Quenton Nelson
Denzel Ward
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[Try to trade down if none of the above are on the board]
Isaiah Wynn
Will Hernandez
Harold Landry
DaRon Payne
Frank Ragnow
Josh Rosen
Derrius Guice
I have it on good authority that the Bucs will be targeting a RB with the 2nd round pick not the 1st round unless somehow Barkley falls to them
What about us?
We’re taking Vea — everyone knows that.
Smokescreen!
Draft day…why are we still calling it, draft day?
It’s draft night!
And I’m having beer and chips for dinner.
Speaking of TVs.
If the draft were a big deal and worthy of being on 19 frign broadcast networks (slight exaggeration)…there would be big time TV set promotions happening with retailers.
From the tweets, I’d say Josh Allen is the millenial.
Young white people these days use the “a” ending N word all the time. And young black people, generally speaking, have no issue with it. Personally, I think it is dumb for a white person to ever play around with that word–whatever the ending letter. But it happens all the time.
But that’s not the way it’ll play in the media.
I would end my kids’ lives if I ever heard them speak like that.
Maybe I didn’t see the same tweets. But what I saw was used playfully and probably directed at his white friends.
I would never let my kids use that word “a” ending or not, for the record. But there is a definite distinction, based on ending, and most young people–white or black–know it and acknowledge it. (Except extremists on both sides.)
No, I’m sure you saw what I saw. I just don’t see a distinction, and I hold it against Josh Allen as a character flaw.
My son recently got asked to be followed by a division 1 school who’s hopefully going to pay for his schooling
I told him this is why you can’t put moronic things on instagram
His is clean so it wasn’t an issue
What sport?
Track and field
Justified filicide?
“Young white people these days use the “a” ending N word all the time.”
Only the racist or at least dumb ones.
And even if you forgive the use of the N’a word
The “white is right” stuff? In 2012?
You don’t know many urban young white people very well, I assume. Which makes sense. But as a HS teacher in an semi-urban setting, I see it all the time. And they aren’t the racist ones.
The “a” ending word pretty much translates to dude these days.
I wouldn’t say it. I wouldn’t advise any white person to say it. But that is how it is used.
I don’t know what to make about the “white is right” stuff. That is the worst of it to be sure.
The kid was dumb to ever post that stuff. But does it make him a racist? Probably not.
Also, in 2012 he was 15 yrs. old.
So it probably makes his parents racist
Which is exactly the age this kind of stuff is most used. And the time when it was at peak popularity among young white folks.
The “white is right” thing was flat-out racist, and I wouldn’t draft him because of it.
that’s mighty white of you.
Inappropes
alex,
just pointing out another racist expression that people might use w/o even realizing it’s racist.
I don’t think that’s an expression dude. Or not one anyone has used in the last 50 years.
I’ve never heard that expression anywhere, ever.
50 years? really? i heard it as a kid and more recently that even that.
I googled it, only thing that comes up, Clint Eastwood’s “The Enforcer” (1976)
2018-1976= 42 years ago… so maybe 50 I was stretching it.
And maybe getting our political correctness from Dirty Harry isn’t advisable.
I’m not sure what you mean by that.
No, other than my younger cousins I avoid high school kids generally speaking.
And if I heard my cousins say that I’d slap them upside the head.
The JAllen tweets could cause him to fall means he might be there at 13 means someone might come up to get him
Josh Allen isn’t worthy of being drafted in round 1, tweets or no tweets.
A responsible TV set owner never throws anything directly at the TV.
Also, the surface directly behind their TV is layered with cork.
Steve won’t like this pick of Boris
32. Philadelphia Eagles – Derrius Guice (RB, LSU)
Yeah, I hate that.
It won’t happen. He’ll go before 32.
The moment Barkley is gone, Guice shoots up in value. Depending if PON wins out over BPA, he could still be a top 10 selection.
If the Redskins are okay with his character issues, then I strongly approve of drafting him with our pick. It’s just tough to know without having met him. The Redskins have spent alot of time with him.
Guice ain’t gonna go top ten
A lot of people have Michel ahead of Guice. I don’t think he’s the clear cut #2 back anymore. Especially with the loony stuff.
Ernest was a bit down on Michel on our show, at least compared to Guice. He was big on Guice.
I heard that. And I agree with him. But I’m talking about looking around at big boards all over the place. I don’t think most teams view either as a clear cut, head and shoulders “next” guy after Barkley.
His only mark on Sony was him needing to learn to protect the ball. Which of course is huge, but…can be fixed.
The Bucs…have no RB
So… Josh Allen tanking his draft status with high school tweets?
I read the tweets this morning. Usually I’d think it’s dumb and roll my eyes, but they were pretty bad, in my opinion. Pretty racist.
I didn’t read them… just heard about them. SMH
Jason Boris (the #1 mocker last 5 years) picks are in
#13 – Vita Vea
so that makes it an even 100 and 41 votes for Vea
Boris article link
https://www.tnonline.com/boris-selects-darnold-barkley-go-1-2-his-mock-draft
Well hellz, might as well not even watch now.
I don’t know if 99 is a large enough population size but the theory has it that if you have enough samples the results tend to clump around what actually happens because human brain patterns tend to be similar
so if true that would mean our pick would most likely be from this group
Vita Vea, DT, Washington 40
Derwin James, S, Florida State 15
Minkah Fitzpatrick, DB, Alabama 10
Denzel Ward, CB, Ohio State 9
99 is a valid sample size, but the fallacy is that all of the people you’re sampling are just guessing. None have any real knowledge of what the Redskins are thinking.
yes guessing but “educated” guesses
and some subset will hit on the same path as the Redskins brain trust just because nothing is ever totally random
if it is totally random they we will pick Guice, Wynn, Davenport or Ridley at #13
From your deliberately calculated selections?
least chosen paths by the mockers
I don’t think too many of those educated guessess are any more educated than mine.
Group think is a thing
So is 99 luftballoons
NFL Draft – 09 HOURS: 25 MINUTES
Have we signed Hankins yet?
Yes.
Amen already!
Chubb it out…Bradley and Nick, 1st and 2nd round picks…
there would be more than two chubb’s if that happened
My opinion – drafting the following positions in round 1 would be dumb and worthy of throwing a shoe at the TV: QB, T, TE, WR, CB
I can live with pretty much any other position in rd 1 as long as they hit on the pick.
Agreed
I’d be okay with Ward or Fitz (S/CB) but agree on the others at least being uninspiring.
I wouldn’t be okay with Ward…I think the need just isn’t there considering that they drafted a very highly rated prospect last year who (to me) looks like he’s going to become a legit starter. Fitz, sure, he’s more of a safety anyway.
ZIGZAG non-syndicated: day 1
_____________________________
Defense
________
• Bradley Chubb, DE, Wolfpack
• Minkah Fitzpatrick, CB/S, Alabama
• Tremaine Edmunds, OLB/ILB, Hokie
• Derwin James, S, FSU
• Harrison Phillips, DT, Stanford
• Da’Ron Payne, DT, Alabama
• Leighton Vander Esch, ILB, Boise State
• Roquan Smith, OLB/ILB, Georgia
Offense
________
• Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State
• Quenton Nelson, Guard, Notre Dame
• Will Hernandez, Guard, Texas El Paso
• Isaiah Wynn, Guard, Georgia
• Derrius Guice, RB, LSU
I like your boards, except I don’t understand Phillips in Vea’s place.
Other than calling to mind Paea, what are your qualms with Vea. And why so high on Phillips? Just curious.
I’m very high on Phillips…impressive dude.
Production, attitude, durability
Will Hernandez. Run blocks. Pass blocks.
That’s plenty dynamic to me.
love him! Mean too
Winner!!!
He’s a beast, certainly.
He cray-cray.
-Aaron H
kon, Trump wasn’t yelling or losing his shit at all. NOILRMOT DC and….Kon?
It’s draft day. Politics is banned today.
Roger that Mr. Steve!
Dude, they cut him off.
For a reason.
And it wasn’t to talk the draft.
Wrong.
Right AF.
They cut him off. There’s no denying it.
Now stop. Even though I reserve the right to reply in kind, Steve has banned anything to do with politics. And I don’t want to have to keep saying that you dudes are wrong. Just, accept it and have a wonderful draft day! 🙂
Take a Midol , its gonna be a long day for you if you get worked up over a phone interview . It’s TV , they have timelines and commercials . Your making ridiculous assumptions . Not screaming . Certainly you know what real screaming is .
Who’s worked up? Who made an assumption? Who said screaming?
I’m trying to focus on the draft here. Please stop derping in my general direction.
Hey…enough. I said politics are banned today, and I was serious. It’s Christmas morning; don’t mess it up.
I didn’t start this conversation . Have a great day .
sleigh bells ring, are you listening, in the lane, snow is glistening….
If written by Steve, article would read: “Round one selection should be a Running Back over positional need.”
That’s not close to what I’d write.
True. It’d be.
‘Round one selection should be Derrius Guice’
The latest in the past 2 days about his interviews has bothered me a bit…..tough call now.
I’ll make it easy….
He appear, for now, to be headed toward the same sort of negative attention Elliot brings to Dallas.
wish he were the runner elliot is
I think he is as talented as Elliott.
really? we need him then…i’m not as sure as you.
Yeah I’d have to agree. For the first round anyway. If he drops to the second…..
Yes, second round, I’m fine.
Sacramento County Sheriff Scott Jones said the task force had been conducting surveillance on DeAngelo and secretly retrieved his DNA from a discarded item, such as a soda can. The DNA matched the samples left by the killer. Authorities would not say how they initially came to see him as a potential suspect.
I find that last part interesting. I wonder if they did some large data mining effort since the FBI had built a profile of the guy. Built a list of suspects and then collected DNA from a bunch of people to start ruling people out.
That’s what I’ve found interesting about the whole thing, too. What caused the authorities to focus on him in the first place.
The profile was white male, age 60-75, with police experience who resided in the Sacramento area during period x to y
then you look at the dates of the crimes and start eliminating people who were not around or at a different place
but I’m sure that pool of potential suspects was in the hundreds
AND, they’ve had that profile for over twenty years….
Something happened that caused them to take a look at him.
They’re also being intentionally silent on that point.
I think all the media focus made them go back and review everything and someone was able to come up with a pool of say 15-35 people
Could be, but culling down to 15-35 people takes a lot of information.
also they may have been able to pull additional info from the DNA with newer testing
like blood type or genetic background which helped them narrow down the list
^Now, that could make sense.
Vea has been the overwhelming pick for the skins based on the mocks. Any worries another team sees that and trys to jump ahead or just take whoever else falls to them? I heard last night that Green Bay was interested in moving up, little chance it is for a QB I’d assume. I think they have enough needs that missing out on Vea wouldn’t be that big a deal.
40 out 99 mocks I tracked for Vita Vea
I still don’t see the Redskins drafting a NT in rd 1 just one year after drafting a DT. Plus, aside from Brandon Scherff, the Redskins do something unexpected in round 1 more often than not, it seems to me. I think they go in a different direction.
Well going in a different direction would certainly fit with the Redskins tradition as going in a different direction would be the wrong direction.
I think there are enough needs that they can skip DL in rd 1 and still be right. DL isn’t the biggest need anyway.
Except their run defense was awful once the injuries started to hit, showing that they sorely lack depth.
Totally agree, but depth isn’t a 1st round pick.
Most of the starters we have on the DL are depth. We actually lack a really good starter other than Allen.
No you make him the starter and push a guy like Hood back for depth.
^This!!!!!!
Talent on the roster should be priority #1