Redskins Draft Derrius Guice in Round 2
April 27, 2018; updated 11:30 p.m.
by Steve Thomas
The Redskins drafted LSU running back Derrius Guice with the 27th pick of the second round of the 2018 NFL Draft, 59th overall. Guice, who stands 5’11” and weighs 218 pounds, was a First-Team All-SEC selection in 2016 and a Second-Team selection in 2017.
Guice, who originally hails from Baton Rouge, Louisiana, gained 3,074 yards on 471 attempts, for an average of 6.5 yards per carry, and 29 touchdowns, in 35 games over three seasons. He also had 32 receptions for 250 yards and 3 touchdowns, in 35 games over three seasons. In 2017, Guice posted 1,251 yards on 237 carries, for a 5.3 yards per carry average, and 11 touchdowns, and 32 receptions for 250 yards and 2 additional touchdowns. He was a teammate of Jacksonville Jaguar Leonard Fournette for two years at LSU, and outgained him by yardage in 2016 (Guice 1,387; Fournette 843) and by yards per carry in 2015 (Guice 7.6; Fournette 6.5).
Guice ran the 40 yard dash in 4.49 seconds, bench pressed 225 pounds a total of 15 times, and posted a 31.5 inch vertical leap at the 2018 NFL Scouting Combine.
Guice is Washington’s highest-drafted running back since Ray McDonald was drafted with pick 13 in 1967. The Redskins have not drafted a running back higher than the third round since Ladell Betts was drafted with the 56th pick in round 2 in 2002. Reggie Brooks was a 2nd round pick, 44th overall, by the Redskins in 1993, and Richard Williams was a second round pick, 56th overall, in 1984.
Guice joins a backfield that already includes 2017 rookie Samaje Perine, 2016 undrafted free agent Rob Kelley, third down specialist Chris Thompson, and others. Guice will compete to become Washington’s principal starter and hopefully solve the team’s long-standing production problem in the run game.
Redskins head coach Jay Gruden praised Guice’s ability, stating, “[t]his is a hard-nosed runner, plays hard, he can catch a football, he can pass protect, he’s got good vision and [he’s] a guy we really liked in the early rounds.” Gruden addressed Guice’s role in the running game, providing that “[h]e’s more of a first-, second-down banger….I think he can catch the football fine, but really, our role for him is quite easy to see. It’s first, second down. We have a third-down back. He’s not going to play on third down anyway. Chris [Thompson] is going to be out there, and Chris will be in there a lot, so I think the rotation that we will come up with will be quite beneficial to all the backs. ”
Guice was originally projected to be a first round selection, but dropped to round 2 for reasons rumored to deal with negative visits to other teams and a possible previously unreported altercation. Gruden addressed these rumors, stating “Yeah, we don’t know anything about that, quite honestly. These reports that come out after the pick, unfortunately we don’t get access to every report on the player so we’ll wait and see and talk to Derrius, but he’s assured us there was no altercation there at all.” Gruden was otherwise high on Guice as a person, stating that Guice has “some energy, now. He’s got some energy. Just bottle that up and let that unleash on Sundays, not so much on Thursdays and Fridays. But he’s a fun guy to be around and I enjoyed the small time that we had with him, but we’ll wait and see.”
Guice himself spoke to Washington-area media by conference call, and provided that he views himself as “a very physical, powerful runner that doesn’t shy away from contact. I like to compare my game to Marshawn Lynch a lot. That’s the big bro. I talk to him a lot and have gotten a lot of advice from him throughout this process as well. That’s who I put my running style towards.” He also denied that there was any substance to rumors of an altercation during his pre-draft visit to Philadelphia, and expressed surprise at the leaked rumors, stating, “It did surprise me because a lot of things came out of nowhere and weren’t true, and I just didn’t understand ‘Why me?’ out of all people because I’m great to everybody, I have a great personality and I just cannot understand why everything gets so hard with me out of everybody. Like I said again, I’m just thankful that this whole process is over with, that an organization believed in me and trusted in me.” He also expressed gratitude to the Redskins for drafting him, stating, “I’m grateful to be a part of this organization.”
Somewhat surprisingly, Guice becomes the first offensive player drafted by the Redskins in the second round of the draft since 2008. The Redskins have now drafted a running back in 8 straight drafts dating back to 2011. Guice is the 12th LSU player drafted by the team in its history.
We’ll have much more on Guice and the rest of the Redskins’ draft choices on the next episode of The Hog Sty.
I woke up expecting to read this breaking story about Guice that Mike Mayock kept reporting on during the draft. I can’t find shit so looks like all that talk was a bunch of crap just as I thought. I’m glad NFL teams fall into line like sheeps. We got a first round RN late in the second and picked up a 3rd round pick because of a coupe stupid rumors.
I’m going to play golf see you fools later.
We got 4,5,6,7,7 today there are still some very good players left.
Geez. Ravens building whole new O
Like Andrews. No drops
The Panthers just selected a douchebag?
Hill looked harder to move than Jones overall imo.
Nice thing is we still have picks throughout and all of next years picks, plus the comp picks.
I’m impressed with our FO. They played it cool. Stayed on point. Not sure about 3rd rounder, but if he’s a quality swing or better that’s a huge bonus.
I think they watched the OG run, then the DB run and expected the OT run, which just happened
Time to move along, again – new post: http://www.thehogsty.com/2018/04/27/redskins-draft-tackle-geron-christian-in-round-3/
This might be my favorite Guice run
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ODjgkzQmpU
If the East is brutal…we need more trainers, doctors and therapists.
Last year’s didn’t get it done.
Got a new hospital . The works. Get hyped dude.
https://twitter.com/YahooDrSaturday/status/990032173746049025
Some shrimpy white kid got polaxed…that’s racial violence right there.
Damn. Ravens gonna RPO
You reckon
RG3 leads the way. Lol
🙂
For one play… then off to the hospital
RG3 leads the way…
…to the trainers room.
The Olineman they got is 6’8” 345. That’s freaking unreal
He burned himself in the Combine. Would have seriously considered him at LG.
Held his own for Rodney Andersons pulverizing of UGAs defense
If Shaquem Griffin is there at 109 would you take him?
Yes
Yep… or Hurst, or Harrison
Def. Harrison
+1
With those oily hips you’re not afraid to put him on the back end.
………
Speaking of oil…
talk at me about nic vapes.
What’s good. What’s bad.
promise me you won’t do in public
It’s not for me. I’m hoping I can get her to switch. The stink of cigs sets me off. Not always, but when it does, it really does.
yes it does . Wife smoked for twenty years before finally giving it up.
Man, it’s the worst. I hate it.
I’d rather get a whiff of cat shit than cigs.
I’ve only ever used one brand: https://www.whitecloudelectroniccigarettes.com/
I used the Cirrus 3X batteries with the refillable tanks.
Familiar with any of these? Seen them on the shelves at least? https://ecigarettereviewed.com/best-vape-pen
Dude is getting whack….’look at that get off on him “…….
Why does stuff have to turn gay?
NFC showing out on RBs and OLs this draft.
Gonna be a black and blue conference this year
The East will be brutal
Like it
and brutal yes. No 2014 BS fo sure
That’s what football is supposed to be about
Yes. East being relevant again would be cool. As long as Skins can get some crowns !
No one seems interested in this Alabama safety that’s supposed to be pretty good.
I’d take him, too, in the 4th
More defenders please. Dline or DBs
I still want Maurice Hurst
Damn, I liked Gallup.
I’m gonna say something you’ve all heard me say already… if Hurst is there at 109… take him.
https://twitter.com/SCzardaRedskins/status/990046694162214913
Nice, Jay
The more it becomes his team, the better I like it.
Interesting…a 6’8″ G though?
Who is Ty competing with at guard? Kouandjio and a trash bag full of leaves?
I heard they restriped the parking lot
The sled was pretty tough in practice
Some other player named Nooshkie.
– JoeyT
Wasn’t happy last night but I’m really warming up to this draft.
What got your dress off, Guice, or the Tackle from Louisville?
A little Strawberry Boones Farm
Woowee
Hard to argue PONs….
Texans need that T…could be their weak link w all that talent they got.
Good offseason and like Skins w health in ’18 will rock. Book it.
What’s our next pick… 109?
TWill could extend his career by 3-4 years and book his ticket to the HOF if he would kick inside to G. I think he would dominate there. Not saying this year but not too far off
Well first we gotta see if this Christian dude can even play. Let’s not kick TWIll anywhere just yet.
Lol
Ty could play LT. I think the Skins best OLine configuration is with Ty at LT and TWill at LG. then we get our best 5 OLineman on the field
You don’t take an All Pro T and move him to OG
Vs. Wolfpack in ’16
https://youtu.be/d4cPzhLfrpM
I would have liked that safety Ronnie Harrison, but I won’t sweat an Oline pick. After last season we could use the depth, when basically all 3 of our tackles were injured.
And at least we didn’t so something utterly stupid like take a WR or a TE or a schmuck-QB.
We got players for the lines and the running back we wanted while trading back and recouping a 3rd rounder; I’m happy.
Hard to get too upset at this draft
Oh, I’m sure some of the numbskulls here will. When you don’t pick someone according to the numbers on their dumb little mock draft that no one cares about, they start getting all assy like “oh, why did we reach there!”.
Sure, sure… solve that problem by not mocking or acting like you actually know something.
pretty much
I think we expected them to draft a developmental swing tackle
…just not on day 2…
https://twitter.com/RobbieDuncanOL/status/990045749223280641
Compared to NO 3rd rounder. This guy is a great pick.
Plus we got Guice at 13! Oh, wait…We got Payne. Plus Guice. It’s a good draft.
unless Guice is going to prison
prison? do tell…
Twitter must have some info I haven’t seen.
We’re listening…
Tis.
the Giants have really won the draft so far
They rocking
Well…truth is that after last season, they have to be concerned about 2 things.
1)TWill’s healtth
2) Twill smoking pot
Nskehke ain’t no spring chicken, either, and was injured last season. Guess they are looking to cover their bases on the OL; which is fine with me.
Guy sounds silky smooth, plays left and right, weak.
“Will get manhandled in the NFL.”
-Squinns
Not real thrilled with the 3rd round pick
Seems like a project guy
Strengths
Flipped in-game between left and right tackle so he’s experienced at both
Extremely long arms
Rolls hips for movement on down blocks
Has athletic ability to become capable move blocker on next level
Former standout basketball player with leftover footwork to prove it
Sets with desired posture and smoothness in his slides
Upper body stays quiet throughout
Can transition feet back inside to catch spin moves and inside counters
Maintains balance when punch gets swiped away
Uses inside/out approach in pass sets to prevent rushers from accessing his inside edge
Athleticism to run edge rushers up and around the pocket
Doesn’t give away his hands early to counter-punching rushers
Weaknesses
Needs to do a much better job of utilizing his length
Fails to get create adequate arm extension to keep defenders at the end of his length
Catches rather than punches
Tape reveals significant concerns regarding functional power
Recovery strength when beaten is below average
Unable to press defenders off his edge when challenged
Lacks initial pass pro anchor
Bounced deep into pocket by surging ends
May take time to get comfortable working from three-point stance if asked to
Needs to get into his block fit more quickly on down blocks to improve timing of his work-up blocks
Inconsistent on aiming points and too content to use outside hands
weight room
Nice.
Wow. Rudolph no Ben .
Guy is a tackle. Heir to Twill and will be a backup swing tackle in the mean time
PON. Never know too. Nseke played some G
Yes.
However… TWill would make one der hecken LG to finish out his career
“This is one of the most interesting tackles because he has potential. Some of these tackles like the UCLA kid (Kolton Miller) they aren’t going to get much better. This kid just needs more experience and coaching and I think he will be a starter down the road.” — NFC team offensive line coach
https://twitter.com/RobbieDuncanOL/status/990044503464665088
Nsekhe at guard would be excellent.
The last time it came down to it, we moved Trent inside to LG and kept Ty at LT. Nsekhe won’t play guard for us.
This guy is a tackle. He ain’t a guard
Nope. Not lead in the pants enough to play G
Arie 2.0
I love how whenever they stack picks, they almost always reach with the next pick.
That’s my “Montae” pick of 2018. I don’t like it, but I’ll remember MN and hope it works out that well
PON, PON, PON, PON, PON, PON…
All
Day
Long
NNA?
Wow. And Nnadi goes next…
Like it. Maybe the Roullier type gem in the rough
Interesting pick, got to like that they went and filled all 3 holes in the top 3 rounds.
Not sure he’s a LG
Me neither . Don’t get it . Rather of had a TE .
Callahan cross-trains everyone.
Kinda, he’s not a G though
If it pans out in October….Nuts !
Interesting pick… honestly don;t know anything about him.
OK bed time got golf in the morning
Me too, wussy.
Needs to get bigger but he’s athletic and has the length your looking for. Developmental prospect
Unknown OL guy.
Is he gonna go G
G. CHristian OT
Ocala
There ya GO !! BEEF !
Skins being very decisive. Pick in immediately.
Who
O-line
OK got the o-line guy.
Darrell !!!
Harrison Philli
66
Yep. Also a great pick.
Hurst would be great too. DLine set for years.
4 picks behind on TV, the psychics are crawling out
Pretty happy with Guice where we got him…
Take Maurice Hurst here
Coulda had Connor Williams smdh
He sounds peculiar
Mason R. wouldn’t be bad here. Plenty of time to develop.
No thanks
No way. Wait til next year
Too much talent left
Are third rounders meant to be developed?
Just saying. I’d prefer Harrison.
Take Falk in the 4th
https://twitter.com/sportsfanman24/status/990033168706232320
After we pick I’m watching the Andre The Giant thing on HBO.
It’s good
What’s left for quality O Line?
We stole Guice. Thumbs up.
Shock felt ’round the Redskins Nation Demby, Maine
I’d grab Nnadi or Hurst. Philly has 8 or 9 Blue chippers on their D line rotation. Build the Wall. MWGA
Keep up w the Joneses
If he’s the last LG standing….get him
Somthing wrong wiht NFL.com’s code on my laptop. says best available for us is LaMar Jacskon or Allen
Well the good news is we seem to do really well in the 1st round. Defensive line is exactly where I thought we should go and Payne looks like another stud to me.
But we absolutely suck when it comes to the 2nd round. Holy Shit!
Jenkins
Amerson – Knucklehead
Murphy – Slow non agile defensive end playing outta position at OLB
Smith – Inconsistent
Cravens – Mentally unfit, too slow to play safety, too small to play LB
Anderson – possibly the least athletic player on the team
and now Guice…who has more red flags than a Chinese Military Parade! Really disappointing that we can’t do better with such a valuable pick.
Yeah getting Gice where we got him was a steal he has no red flags just a bunch of BS.
You in the minority. Come back in November
Really? smh
Smith is nasty you are tripping.
He’s the best we’ve done recently. But its no wonder we continue to struggle to win football games with such poor drafting in a premium round.
lol
Ok getting close….we going DB? Maybe a WR?
TE
LG
Who’s the director of this draft broadcast?
MaraJones
Scot
A’Shawn Robinson still around?
We took him round 1!
Ronnie Harrison is my guy if possible.
Yeah
Dang. DC’d
NOILRTCJS!!
I’m taking Ronnie Harrison here if he’s still on the board.
Yeah that’s who I want
Wouldn’t be mad at it. He can lay your ass out. Kam Chancelloresque
They really drag this shit out.
No shit
Coach X: “Guice… what if a teammate propositioned you in the locker room? What would you do?”
Guice hears: “Do you like men?”
Coach X: “Guice, what if an opposing linebacker called your mama a ho?”
Guice hears: “Is your mama a ho?”
I think it’s very, very possible it was a miscommunication.
Warner for SF is an interesting player
I think Suzy made me look away with that dude
understandable
Recap: we ain’t doin’ that bad
Even someone like me who wasn’t thrilled in R1, very happy now with R2
Look at the culture they’ve created up front, reach or not.
Those kids are part of that unit
You’ll be happy with R1
It’s fine, just not the kind of guy I was hoping for.
Excited rd1. What? rd2
Not at all.
He’s a good kid
Helps little old ladies across the street
Something like that
I’m going to tell you all the obvious…all those other RBs did not go ahead of Guice because of being dishonest with the media
You think teams would give a damn about that? Misleading the media?
Please.
Chill. Who you woulda picked at 59 or 44 better ? Cmon man
I’m chill. I’m also the opposite of excited about Guice.
Off field issues can be crushing to a team’s season.
I’d prefer to stay far far away from that kind of player.
I think they would . It’s weird and strange to make up that stuff , if he did in fact do that
Look I didn’t think Guice was the 2nd best RB in this draft, but then again, Kareem Hunt was a 3rd round pick last year, as was Alvin Kamara. If everybody knew who the best players would be the draft would be easy and it isn’t
Malik Jefferson would be good at LB, if you’re into sideline-to-sideline speed, TFLs, good vision, nice angles and sure tackling.
If Guice has a maturity issue, maybe the skins can recruit Clinton Portis to mentor him.
Yeah, Portis was a goofball, but he was a hard worker and wanted to play every second of every game.
I’m pretty sure the NFL can’t suspend you for anything you did before becoming an employee.
They can,
Np really don’t think so give me an example.
They didn;t suspend the kid for hitting the girl in the video.
They did investigate it, though. Also investigated Crowder, if you recall.
Yeah but if he didn’t get suspended for that I doubt guise gets suspended for lying.
because he didn’t do it .
He hit the girl I saw the video.
Crowder hit girls in a video ?
If it’s drug use they can start testing you right away I think
Pretty sure everyone has to pee at the combine.
They can and they have.
Really who?
Zeke Elliott
Is Malik Jefferson still on the board?
yes
Can’t believe Poona went No. 1 overall.
I think most of it was he lied about the teams asking if he was gay and if his mom was a hooker.
That could be and if so could care less.
He will learn.
He’s immature, had no male role model growing up. We put some strong vets around him and let him do work
Kareem Hunt is fast. I think Guice offers every bit as much as he does if not more in the sick moves department.
Smith and co gonna rocket.
….and bulldozer dept too.
Hunt’s 40 is not better than Guice. 4.53
Guice 4.49
That too
By the way, we’re out of pre-prepared draft selection writeups, so no more instantaneous service.
That’s cool.
Stanford, sick tackle numbers, freak production
That’s what to expect here on out
Fine by me, I’ve read enough on these kids
TMZ executive editor Evan Rosenblum tweeted the following in scream-at-your-eyeballs all caps: “NO, TMZ IS NOT HOLDING SOME CRAZY BOMBSHELL STORY ON DERRIUS GUICE.”
NFL Network’s Mike Mayock has since hinted at the rumor of a looming TMZ story.
If that is what Mayock is talking about he is a fool.
Damn PJ/BJ gone
Giants having a heck of a draft
Tyrell Crosby
The NFL is not good at keeping secrets if they had something it would have leaked by now.
Every team in the NFL knew about it or he wouldn’t have made it to the end of the 2nd.
As long as it’s not domestic violence or a murder rap I’m good
Yep. Can’t do violence against women/children or Ray Lewis stuff. fo sho
agreed.
I think it was the lies about combine questions, plus the media overvaluing him.
Alright… so I just got home from a destruction of the Packers to see we traded back and got Guice later in the second…
…anyone call out Steve and QGC yet?
Call out bro. No probs
Just checking…
Call me out for what? The fact that Guice had an interview/visit issue that caused him to drop? Okay, fine.
Just making sure…
Man, you search twitter, the rumors about why Guice fell are all over the place.
He could be gay, he want’s to kneel during anthem, literally everywhere.
Nobody has a clue. We’ll hear eventually, and I’m guessing it won’t be anything that will worry us too much
Exactly.
I’m guessing the opposite
We’ll be talking about that wasted pick for years
It’s what we do
Can’t be any more of a waste than the Cravens 2nd rounder.
Sure it can. Cravens reports show that we should have learned to know better
Or Taylor Jacobs!
(wait… he was a Gator… )
Noether of those things means shit I could care less about either.
Same. Unless he hurt someone, I generally won’t care
Skins have been against kneelers since beginning.
And who cares if gay… Skins get to be first who “integrate” for a change.
We were famously the “gay team” supposedly in the 70’s
The team that selects him will be embarrassed by the report
– Mayock
Are we suddenly okay if we had Peter Cheeks on the team?
Let me know if we’re going fuck it on being critical of knuckleheaded ningnongs.
Talk about it later
Yeah and Mayock is always right.
You sure are. Like a clairvoyant or some shit
Dude stop fucking crying.
Lol…shut up
Ouch. Carter’s a bad man.
Mmhmm
This is gonna get ugly
WOOHOO!! We got Guice!
Yeah I’m stoked
And picked up a 3rd.
Slick move. As long as Guice doesn’t get suspended for whatever the hell he did.
Sounds like crap to me if there was something it would have come out by now.
We got 2 Impacts !
Cool to see you stoked for the pick, DC! Guice plus a 3rd is hard to beat, eh?
https://twitter.com/JPFinlayNBCS/status/990036147232559104
I’m surprised he made the flight and was able to watch film without putting on the game console.
My thoughts also
I heard he beat the shit out of stewardess on that flight. Probably get a 10 game suspension
I bet we try to trade back again in the 3rd
Then we traded back. My son was like, “We lost Guice!”
I was like, “Be an optimist, bud!”
Lol. It turned out great. We were high fiving and stoked. Great Redskins family moment. (Sorry for the lame family story…)
dont be sorry
It was a seriously awesome moment. It was up there with when he was 4 yo and RG and Skins beat the Cowgirls on TG. (He doesn’t much remember that tho.)
We all talk about family here.
Would you take harrison if he is there?
I look OL
Yeah that would be a good way to go also.
Just not sure there are any worth this pick.
Hurst be my pick
and Mayock….
Was watching with my 10 yo. The whole time I’m going, Guice here. Guice here. He’s going., “He’s coming to us. Be an optimist, dad.”
Smart kid
He is a Hailer !
Skins met with Guice more than any other RB in the draft I believe
If the first interview went bad, they gave him a 2nd shot.
He is who they wanted the entire time.
PFF Fantasy FootballVerified account @PFF_Fantasy 32s33 seconds ago
Throughout his college career, Darius Guice was brought down on first contact only 60% of the time, top five in the PFF college era (min. 300 carries)
So which pick in the third ?
10th
thx
https://www.nfl.com/draft/tracker/picks?pick=31
Ronnie harrison or Justin Reid best S left
Character guys suddenly changed their mind about a kid with character issues.
Weird
This draft just got great!
All we need is an impact player on D or a great G, and we are golden!
Dudes!!
Guice and 10th pick in the 3rd? Awesome!
Best draft ever
Have we hit 91k?
What 6pack can I get you, bro?
lol….I’d like to try whatever these 32 ouncers Alex got hooked up with
I got you, dog!
32 oz all around!
Good call on the 7pm 91k! 🙂
Ever?
It’s worked out better than I’d have expected. Thought that Guice would have been gone before we picked at 44. But this round broke for us unexpected
Yes. I retract my earlier disappointment for taking a seemingly unnecesaary risk
https://twitter.com/JasonLaCanfora/status/990032079785201664
How far ahead is Twitter?
Not sure but pick 64 has not be announced yet on TV.
Yea
4 days
So it seems
Crosby or Teller at #74
Teller could be a good play, local kid
Hopefully. Be awesome
Benjamin AllbrightVerified account @AllbrightNFL
From a league source on Guice: “He got into an altercation at a meeting with the Eagles. He had several meetings where he came across lazy only wants to play video games. We caught a direct dishonesty from him in our meeting.”
TBF, try going to philly and not getting in a fight.
I stayed in DC and got in a fight with people from Philly
LOL yeah he didn’t seem to have those problems at LSU.
You don;t become a great RB by being lazy.
You don’t get better either
Well he’ll have a chip on his shoulder. Get DJ in his ear from the jump. He’ll be alright
Straight Up
Yep
OK CB or G in 3rd?
Guard
Wyatt Teller in the third
Here it is
https://twitter.com/ChrisLingebach/status/989993163166240768?s=19
we know
I just found out
Good lord
We want 2 1’s and a 2 for him
Guice 1st and 2nd down
Thompson 3rd down
Perine Goal line
Kelly spell back.
Think I’d use Guice on the goal line though
Kelley gets cut, Bibbs is the 4th back
maybe
They like Bibs a bunch too
Did u guys see the report that Bruce Allen might go to the Raiders after the draft?
Buh bye
https://twitter.com/ChrisLingebach/status/989993163166240768?s=19
Now get me somebody to block for him at LG
POOONNNNAAAAA!!!!
Would like that pick sometime tomorrow
LG must be addressed