Post Draft Breakdown
Jamual talks about his experience at the teams draft day celebration on Saturday. We go over the teams draft picks, un-drafted free agents, and give our thoughts and analysis.
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Time to move – very short roster moves post: http://www.thehogsty.com/2018/04/30/roster-moves/
RIP actress Pamela Gidley, 52
According to the Redskins they have released DL McClain, Francis and Hughes
waived TE Brazile, LB McKInzy and DB Sample
Bye Felicias.
Let’s get the hashtag going – #Kiperretirement2018
https://twitter.com/TheHogSty/status/991042055068700673
Was that your pull, Steve?
Yes. I think Kiper is a complete and total fraud, and I have no doubt whatsoever that any of us could do better than Mel if ESPN wanted to pay us 7 figures to do nothing but draft analysis.
That’s a wicked pull man. There’s no way that tweet isn’t racing around the world right now.
Bad ass.
I think the original pull was SB Nation’s. look at the bottom.
Confirmed, SB Nation is the one calling Kiper out with the original pull.
Oh. Okay. Well wicked retweet nonetheless.
Yes, I just pulled the SB Nation story, to be clear. I was aware of this and tried to find it on Youtube (couldn’t) but found the SB Nation story.
It’s their story, my tweet.
and take McShay with him
noonefromtampa
if you can hit 30%+ over a several year period you’re one of the top mock people in the country
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“…One of the top mock people in the country.”
Think about that statement for a moment.
Mr. noone, what you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on Walter’s soul.
Steve Thomas Team Captain noonefromtampa • 14 minutes ago
Kiper and McShay both suck.
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Confirmed. But, in my defense, I was drunk.
-Scot
noonefromtampa Steve Thomas • 43 minutes ago
Silva got 28/32 1st round picks correct and match 10 picks to the correct team
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I don’t view getting 28/32 1st round picks as being with a darn. Matching pick with team is a win.
I promise you he did not get any of the QB’s right so who the fuck is supposed to be impressed with this congratulatory bullshit?
Wow, he’s a talent/personnel whiz!
(not)
A lot of good things coming out of the weekend.
Skins looking like they finally have young, quality talent in the trenches on both sides.
Finally have a grade A talent at RB to pair with CT and the thunders (Kelly/Perine).
Tons of options at WR to develop, including a handful of those big guys we used to just dream about (Doctson, Harris, Davis, Cobbs).
We have a QB and a backup who are both very capable and shouldn’t (shouldn’t anyway) do a lot of boneheaded things.
Doug Williams seems like the kind of competent, well spoken (in his way), football man with a vision who can make our front office look respectable again.
Skins traded back and recouped picks and still got what they wanted.
The draft and free agency added up to a quiet, low drama, high substance offseason that coupled with some health and lucky breaks could be the start of something pretty good for us Skins fans.
Did we pick up any 2019 draft picks throughout the wheeling and dealing?
meh, the trade back was swap 2nd rounders, 3rd round pick but gave up 5th round pick
could have really used that (much earlier) 5th round pick
Yes agreed, we should have drafted Guice with our original second round pick and kept the fifth round pick over the third round pick.
lol
that’s dumb af
Sarc font is in play, I’m pretty sure.
I know, just wanted to pile on…
that’s all hindsite.
they moved half a round back early in day 2 for a +3rd and minus 5th
According to the charts, Skins got good value in the trade (got more points than they gave up). And hindsight, they fucking killed it.
the charts are based on what?
clearly not first-pick magnificence
Well, true. Should have gotten a 2018 first in addition to the 2018 3rd. You’re right.
a 3rd AND 5th FROM SF! And their first born son!
Okay
What happened
??
What happened to everyone
Ah. I’m tying up some nymphs for the next trip, leaving this post up.
Wrists sore from flapping over our draft (switched to other hands and now that wrist is sore from news that Bruce Allen may be going to Raiders). Sorry, but its difficult for everyone to type with such sore wrists.
5 year average total winners
1 Forrest N. Long – The Huddle Report
2 Kevin Hanson – Eat Drink & Sleep Football
3 Jason Boris – Times News
4 Ryan McCrystal – Draft Ace
5 Ben Standig – The Sports Capitol
6 Brian Johannes – NFL Draft Geek
7 Shawn Baptist – Draft Preview
8 Mike Loyko – Boston Sports Journal
9 Mike Mayock – NFL Network
10 Peter Clarke – WBLZ Media
11 Walt Deptula – WCCP-FM
12 Brian Phlipot – The Football Hub
13 Matthew Jones – Draft Examiner
14 Matt Falk – Draft Season
15 Mark Niemi – The NFL Draft Guru
Jason Boris has been dethroned
2018 Mock Draft Winners (top 15)
1 Evan Silva – Rotoworld
2 Ryan McCrystal – Draft Ace
3 Brendan Donahue — Eat Drink & Sleep Football
4 Mike Campbell – NFLMock
5 Jason Boris – Times News
5 Lance Zierlein – LZPodcast
5 Matthew Jones – Draft Examiner
5 Mike Mayock – NFL Network
9 Brian Phlipot – The Football Hub
9 Daniel Tobon – Fantasy Life App Blog
9 Ken Zalis – Press Box Online
9 Kennedy Paynter – Draft Tek
13 Xavier Cromartie – College Football Metrics
13 Forrest N. Long – The Huddle Report
15 Brian Johannes – NFL Draft Geek
15 Kevin Hanson – Eat Drink & Sleep Football
15 Mauricio Gutierrez – Estadio Fantasy
15 Peter Clarke – WBLZ Sports
15 Rob Rang – NFL Draft Scout
15 Walt Deptula – WCCP-FM
Congrats to all the lifeless losers who made the list.
wonder if any of them turn a website profit
It’s impossible…OK maybe this NFL Network thing does.
….hmmmm…making significant money on a non-national media site. No.
each of those sites would sorta be akin to 32 of these Hogsty sites; since they cover each team, so they could each easily have an order of magnitude more traffic
Did any of them get more than 10% right?
Silva got 28/32 1st round picks correct and match 10 picks to the correct team
So 10 of 32, really. In other words, he was at 31%.
So, a good batting average
if you can hit 30%+ over a several year period you’re one of the top mock people in the country
what is funny is that ESPN made the remove Kiper and the other guy from their list
mainly because they sucked so bad
but you know for “copyright” reasons even though they do not show the picks only the results
Kiper and McShay both suck.
So Chris Sims liked our draft and thinks if we can stay healthy we will be in playoff contention at the end of the year
that’s the best write-up I seen about us for next season
Chris Sims rocks!
you could have said that about this team last year
if they stayed healthy, they probably make the playoffs
Chris Simms is an idiot- kon
Eh… I’d actually say the popular opinion is that Chris Sims is an idiot. Him liking our draft not withstanding.
So ISIS has new trick in Afghanistan
second bomber came in as disguised reporter blew himself and killed 9 reporters
Not so much a new trick
Just a new costume
When ISIS finds out about monocles watch out.
So, had an errand to run, took 2 hours off. Guess what? 395 all lanes blocked. So, traffic was actually worse that the peak of rush hour, even on the side streets. It really is true. Nobody really works … least not on Mondays and Fridays.
Mid-day beer runs man.
Friday about 50% of my site does WFH
I like to come in nice and quiet plus I get a great parking spot
Also only takes about 15 minutes to get to work, very little traffic
we need a smarter traffic light grid with smarter, if unfair, heavy traffic algorithms and sensors
What they really need is to find a way to build some more thruways in the city. DC needs to do something similar to the big dig in Boston Not sure where I’d go from/to, maybe something going east-west underground from Roslyn to somewhere north of RFK stadium?
how that works is you turn the lights green on a few major roads and that’s that
between hours of X and Y, that road becomes a thruway. people will adapt and plan around that
so for example
Rt 1 through Old Town… you’d flip a switch that basically turned the lights green 3-4 x longer from 7-9 and 4-6
stinks if you want to go to Washington Street on Duke, but people will adapt; and those that do night, we send out neighborhood patrols to drag them out of their cars and beat them with a bag of door nobs. goal is not permanent damage, just a permanent shame memory
Have you ever driven on 93?
Boston traffic is a fucking disaster.
In Boston? Yes.
Bostin’s a disaster because of a lot of things. Mostly because there is no order to their traffic patterns the roads are a total mess.
I was simply saying we need a 2nd highway but it would have to be under ground because of the infrastructure that’s already in DC.
the metro trains already have tunnels. betcha you could leverage that, and almost certainly more people would use it with vehicles than use the trains; averaged out over the entire day
Hard to do that.
Metro train moves something like 1 million people a day. Also the tunnels as they are would probably only be 1 lane each way.
probably they would have to dig out the middle and then they could have HOV 2 lanes in, 1 lane opposite way; the magic is getting the cars out; prob would not allow any form of commercial vehicles, but even above ground, taking the rails out and putting lanes in is the easy part, it’s creating the ingress / egress that is the problem; but it is probably cheaper than starting new
It would just be faster to build a new tunnel, not to mention if you took out the metro rail you’re probably increasing the number of cars on the road every day buy something like 25%, I don’t know the exact numbers but just a guess.
East DC is the worst, right? (It’s been awhile) the whole 395 mess.
Rush hour I’d say the worst parts are getting out of downtown NW / K street area. 395 is usually slowed but always moving, so getting to the SE/NE parts of the city aren’t nearly as bad.
I remember catching Key bridge (I think) at the wrong time was bad, everything collides on the north bank of the Potomac
Oh, I don’t understand how people live in VA and come into DC every day. Seems like it would always be a nightmare.
That’s the same problem we are talking about with Boston. Large bodies of water becoming choke points because you can’t build 10 bridges across every river.
Driving in Boston is cutthroat. Only person that can kill you is a Statie, no one else cares what happens.
I spend 3 hours at day in a car Monday – Friday here in Houston.
Yes but you’re driving 2x as far for that 3 hours, that in a bad day in DC would barely get you across town.
can you imagine getting into a car, living just north of Richmond (prob equivalent for Steve), and then to beat some of the traffic, getting to work at 7 AM? (I do that and it takes me 45 minutes, but statistically, the worst traffic in the U.S. is that stretch between Frednecksburg and Fairfax County, and that’s just an awful way to live. If I lived in Stafford/Fred I’d take the train in 3 days a week, and hopefully have a boss that’d let me telework 2.
Excuse me, 14th Street bridge, that’s the bottleneck from hell. Key bridge fed Georgetown.
in part because Boston is a spiderweb with not much of a grid at all
go to any city where you can time 1-ways on a grid even out to the suburban area of the city and it makes a huge difference
So, I thought some of you might be interested in this:
https://www.amazon.com/Chris-Bachelder/e/B001HCXBJC/ref=dp_byline_cont_ebooks_1
It’s a novel about the Theisman injury. The guy who wrote it went to the same grad program as me, and he is a really funny, if a little bit strange, writer. The book was nominated for the National Book Award for fiction, so that’s either a plus or minus, depending on your POV.
Anyway, it’s about this group of dudes who get together every year to re-enact the flea flicker bone breaker that ended the Joey T. era. The characters are Skins fans.
I just got the book, so I can’t vouch yet, but it looks pretty interesting and I thought I’d share.
Really hope Bruce Allen is going to Oakland. Man..I can’t stop thinking about that.
Lol
Me either.
-Vinny
Ask for a pick in return
2nd round, we’ll pick like 38th
https://twitter.com/Redskins/status/991002626106982400
Yay!
Alex Smith throwing motion looks a bit long, he better work with the QB coach lol
Actually, you are correct. When reviewing his velocity metrics on PFF, I noticed some alarming shortcomings when held against RG3’s numbers – D_C
lol
He was rated 33rd by PFT in the Load to Delivery metric. Not good.
LMFAO
alex getting ready to “wipe the windshield, then flick the booger”.
So Mclain and Francis cut huh?
Yes huh
Who’s shocked?
Does happy count? Yay, it does!
Ran into a fellow Skins fan today that played ball with the Edmunds brothers in highschool, funny to watch his reaction as he was both sad that Tremaine didn’t come to the Skins, and happy for Terrell for going in the 1st round.
Fun fact about Tremaine, he was not nearly as big in highschool, not nearly.
At 6’5″, he eclipses my friend now, who’s still the same 5’6″ he was in highschool (think of a smaller, but proportionate Chris Thompson). He knows all three brothers, Trey, Tremaine, and Terrell. Can’t tell that kid shit right now, lol.
Fun fact: Tremaine and Terrell Edmunds are the first set of brothers to be drafted in the NFL’s first round.
Tremaine as a junior
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Night before…
Me: Better get to bed. Got to wake early and get to the airport. You got everything packed?
Her: Don’t tell me to go to bed. I’ll pack in the morning.
Next morning, at the terminal….
Her: Oh fuck! I forgot my purse. I need you to run back to the house and get it!
Me: Are you serious?
Her: Yes. I forgot it.
Me: No I mean, I have to go get it?
Her: Well what else do you want me to do?
Me: Well, next time I’m saying make sure you have everything packed….
Her: Fine! Just go get it.
Me: You know this is some serious bonus blow points yea?
Those kind of points are a thing?
Next time you’re counting your blessings, bro, don’t forgot that one. 🙂
Relationships, come with conditions. So yea….bonus blow points are a thing.
or on the flip side one of the first time we traveled together
I had my carry on wheelie bag packed and she has this huge suitcase
no need to take two bags when I can carry one for the both of us
except for some reason my underwear, toiletries and socks did not make it into new bag
it was because I did not pack them
except when we got home there they were on the bed next to my suitcase
what’s worse is getting home and realizing that you forgot to repack one of the hotel drawers
3 of my fav shirts and some other stuff gone forever
some son of a maid in Central Cali prob wore those out in high school
Payne is built man. He ain’t fat. He’s like all muscle.
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Skins Fans i promise you @tim_settle and @IAM_GSIII are BALLERS🔥💯
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2nd sentence is whack but I get the first sentence and it makes sense.
I love it that Fuller still seems to care about the Redskins. And it’s cool he’s endorsing these picks.
Yeah I mean he played with these guys so he knows them. That was the reason I posted this. Vick is also all over Strohman
re vick and fuller endorsing settle and stroman:
vick never played with either. did fuller? i mean, as a VT fan, i’ll endorse the picks.
Our friend Adam Taraschke played with Stroman and endorses him.
re Walt, whatever
I can remember the details but I do remember the event and argument
some show we both watched was having series or season finale and I have set VCR to record from like 8:58 to 9:02 so as to not miss anything
well the President makes unscheduled address to nation at 9:00 to 9:15 and they started the show right after and it went to 10:15
so did not get the big reveal at the end
Mrs Noone was so pissed at me
and I’m like why me blame the President
because YOU set up to record
and I did based on the announced schedule not my fault the scheduled changed
no win scenario for me
+- 30:00
2 hour tape at normal speed so that would be a 25% waste
but that’s what she said I should have recorded longer
but now with the DVR she does the one button record off the guide menu and has missed endings of things a couple of times
I just yell at her you should have recorded longer
I feel like George Constanza
or maybe his dad
I’m sure she really appreciates that, Noone….
I freely admit I’m an asshole
We freely acknowledge you’re an asshole. But, that’s why we like you.
Lol
I did that for her for the Super Bowl episode of This Is Us. Except, plus 1 hour.
The next several weeks I’m being asked why every episode of This Is Us has an extra hour added to it.
Sat quiet and shook my head every time.
Mrs Noone filled up the DVR months back because somehow it picked record every episode of ER, and then they went and had a 72 hours marathon of ER episodes
I got up next morning to strange screen when I turned on cable box
had to delete stuff to be able to watch TV
Here, she records a show to record on all channels. All episodes. So, we get the first runs on the network channel. Then, we get the reruns on the syndicated channel. Bonus, we get all the on demand stuff that directv puts on in the middle of the night.
There really is no balance between me not wanting to set the dvr for her and her doing it so that we don’t end up with a crap ton of repeats.
I LOVE it when she’s feisty and is all…”Leave them alone! I’ll delete my own shows!” Which somehow, never seems to happen. Days later there’s a…”What happened to my episodes of Trading Spaces”
‘Oh sorry. They showed as having been watched. I just figured…’
“….and I have set VCR to record from like 8:58 to 9:02 so as to not miss anything.”
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those would have been a very important 4 minutes of the show?
mainly in case the clock on the VCR was off a little
from 8:58 to 9:02 is four minutes (or is it 5…?)
Well, it is anywhere between 3 minutes and infinity.
— you know who
(I kid, DC. I kid.)
Think he probably mean 8:58 to 10:02… I used to do that same trick.
oops sorry yes 10:02
I can definitely relate to this story.
Sometimes there’s no winning.
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.@MichaelVick approves of Greg Stroman.
And Vick’s NOT the ONLY Hokie star to praise the Redskins’ seventh-rounder, either: http://bit.ly/2KpcIEZ
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AJ Francis also cut. That’s a surprise, thought he could stay on as a reliever
He’s a $705,000 savings.
He was not on my 53 so I approve
LOL
It’s interesting to me how the Skins sometimes seem to be a team that drafts on measurables (Nicholson, Apke, Christian) and other times seems to be really much more interested in getting football players, even when they lack measurables (R. Anderson. SD Hamilton).
All teams must do this, but sometimes its seems like our philosophy varies from pick to pick.
Wonder if the combine got Apke’s 40 time wrong too. lol.
McClain gone, eh? Can we just fast-forward things and cut Orlando Scandrick while we are at it?
Or do we have to go through the charade of acting like he has something to contribute before a lengthy injury layoff and eventual release having contributed little else besides a few camp jogs and a few passes surrendered in the first couple games
@ Squinns:
I definitely have had similar things happen and they are so frustrating.
One year it was the Super Bowl. I had to get the kids to bed and they were restless natives (still young) and all. Finally after I got them to bed, it was a blizzard outside, and a pizza delivery guy (not mine) got stuck in the snow in front of the house.
I was like, tough break for him. It’s time to crack a beer and watch the Super Bowl. But wife was like, “Oh really, you aren’t going to help him? He looks like a little old man.”
I’m thinking, Little old man needs to upgrade his career and leave me alone!
Anyway. I get him out of the snowdrift, and then he tells me he’s basically out gas and can I run him to the gas station and back.
By the time I get back inside, it’s 3rd quarter and somehow me walking in the door wakes my son. Now I’m back on tuck in duty. And also, I’m a little bit pissed. Then wife is pissed at me for being pissed and I’ve got to put that fire out too.
Anyway, by the time I hit the couch the game was nearly over and the night was essentially shot.
And, because I was irritable for a few curt words, instead of getting the “oh, my hero” when that comes up with wifey, I get the stink eye. smh.
I’ve missed I think 10 Super Bowls over the years courtesy of the U.S. military.
Worst part is, you did the good deed (albeit reluctantly, for good reason), you still get looked at cross-eyed for the event. That’s tough…. Don’t think they quite understand how important some of those things are to us.
JS,
so this was before VCRs and DVRs, etc….? no way to record it?
It was after VCRs, and I still to this very day do not have a DVR (that requires cable and I haven’t had cable for 15 years or more now.)
DVR + cable = not really anymore with all the new services
alex35332 Team Captain Squinnsamania, brother! • 3 minutes ago
$1,250,000 based on Steve’s chart
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You’re reading the chart wrong. $1.2M is the post-June 1 dead money amount.
Savings is cap hit – dead money, and this is a pre-June 1 cut, so $4.6M – $3.6M – $937,500 savings.
I thought his new dead cap amount was like $3.75 million (basically left over signing bonus) after he re-worked his deal
against cap hit of $4,687,500
Yes, $3.7M and change. That’s what my math above indicates. $1.2M that Alex cited is the post June 1 dead cap number.
so we have to wait and see if they used the June 1 designation on him
Yes. I’m not sure it they can right now.
Okay, yes they can, so we’ll see.
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Redskins Also Cut DT A.J. Francis, Per @JPFinlayNBCS http://bit.ly/2KoJNkl #Redskins
He was decent. JAG, but decent.
LOL AJ…your a decent Just A Guy.
What if Phil Taylor picks up where he left off and balls out?
Pigs will fly?
Keep him until he goes on IR
Move him to LG
Me: Will this team ever learn about signing castoff FA’s from Dallas?
Scandrick: Nope.
Was it a cap savings or a cap hit releasing him?
didn’t they just restructure his deal to reduce the cap hit? that’s cold-blooded.
Yes, a few months ago.
Nature of the beast
MWHAHAHAHAHA!!!
-BA
seems like if you do that a lot, guys won’t restructure.
Hence BA’s sharty reputation around the league.
That’s not just a Bruce thing. That’s an NFL thing. It’s presented like, “here’s your new contract. Sign it.”
Cap savings. $937,500 by my math.
So long McClain. See you in McHobotown
So my 53 man projection is still golden then
LOL
“still too early”
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4AnTe663mrY#
https://twitter.com/john_keim/status/990990421915504646
About time. Would it have been better from a cap standpoint to release him after June 1, or just cut bait now?
Think that Settle sealed this
So it’s Settled then.
What’s the cap hit?
$1,250,000 based on Steve’s chart
No. See above.
Squinns don’t what cable/satellite service you have
but a lot have apps for your phone I know Spectrum and DirecTV do
for me nothing like putting sports on the phone, use the ear bud and just nod at Mrs Noone saying uh-huh dear
All to result in… “What did I just say?” To which, I have to give the duh, blank face…..
The Sam Darnold pick will get a GM fired.
The Josh Allen pick is pure gold.
Darnold and Jackson were the only QB’s I liked this year from a personality standpoint. Mayfield may end up being good but seems like a big risk at #1. Allen sounds too immature to lead a team at this point. Rosen seems kind of whiny.
There’s an area down in Baton Rouge they call ‘The Bottom.’ Very few young men come out of ‘The Bottom.’”
If there was an area down in Baton Rouge that was called “The Vagina” would young men come out of there?
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Hey, guys, heard there might be an opening soon?!?!?
-Vinny
I was so friggin’ pissod off Friday night. I had to tape the draft and sat down at 10:00 on Friday night to watch it. I had stayed off social media, etc.
I had taped it on ESPN. Right after the Skins traded down in the second round, they moved covereage over to ESPN2. So FUGGIN pissed. Too late to switch over really. Was so excited. Had gotten my wife to go to bed. Sone was asleep and it was just me with some Bourbon.
And then I found out about all the excitement with the Skins picks. SO FUGGIN PISSED!!!!!!
Sorry man, they couldn’t give a shit less about the Redskins.
Seriously. My wife talked through the first round. My son wouldn’t stay asleep. Had to turn off after the Skins pick so the apartment was silent.
All set to just relax by myself and enjoj, and then they fugged me at the drive-through. Went to bed after catching up on Twitter. Wife asked why I had gotten so upset out there….
Think my son may have learned a word or two if he’s absorbing anything he hears while he is sleeping.
Lol
It happens, that happened to me on Sunday. Bad luck comes in groups. Look for the upswing soon.
Thanks for the psoitive, BC!
I got over it, but man, just when you think you can sit down and enjoy something to yourself….
I know all about it, took on the mother-in-law last year, 2 kids and a wife.
^My prayers are with you (good person taking on your mother-in-law – I love mine, but man I don’t want her to live me, although I know that will happen some day when my father-in-law passes away).
Yeah, I do it for my wife, and for her, but when it’s every single day………..just gotta do it. Lol, NFL players don’t know shit about a grind, would get mother-in-lawhandled!
That sucks. How old is your son?
Three and a half. We did watch part of it together (that was fun). He kept saying “He got tackled!” He was wearing his Redskins pajamas.
My oldest is 10 now. He used to mess stuff up that way a lot when young.
But now, it is so fun watching stuff with him. He was more stoked about Guice than I was. And more crushed when we traded down and lost out on him (or so we thought!!)
Of course! That’s why I was so bummed Friday night when I thought I had it to myself (and did, and then ESPN screwed me). I don’t many moments like that right now….
You can Livestream the draft from NFL app.
Problem was that I was on tape delay (having dinner with family, playing with son, putting him to bed, etc.). Arrggghhhh….
Gotcha
We needed some quality OT depth. TWill has been inkured. Moses plays on one ankle. And, Nshehhtrekekeke is only here on a one year deal and becomes an UFA after that. I’m good with taking a solid developmental OT in the third.
“live long and prosper”?
“For this kid, who doesn’t drink, doesn’t smoke, hasn’t been arrested, no failed drug tests,” Williams said. “He’s a happy-go-lucky kid.”
If this is true… I mean, obviously they know about arrests and drug tests, but who can know about the smoking (weed) or drinking for sure? But if that’s true, I think it bodes very well for his success.
Honestly, I’d say the “red flags” are looking more and more like fake news all the time.
And getting Guice plus a 3rd rounder Friday night looks more and more like the steal of the draft.
Keep reposting that, every time it comes up.
Raiders offensive tackle Donald Penn has been named as a suspect in a domestic violence investigation. Police were called to Penn’s home on Sunday evening, but when they arrived Penn had left, according to TMZ. According to the report, Penn slapped his wife’s butt, poured a drink on her head and grabbed her by the wrist as the two had an argument.
Probably lots said about this already, but…
With Payne, Allen, Ion, Lanier and Settle (assuming he keeps his weight down and develops) our DL now looks like it could be a significant strength, in addition to young and cheap. Exciting times.
I wonder why there isn’t more of a local angle on this? I’ve heard nothing from the beat reporters about Bruce leaving.
I think it’s garbage.
LaCanofsoda and now PFT…and Grant Paulsen even weighed in. I think it has legs.
It’s been making the rumor mill for 2 days now.
I’m guessing if anything does happen it won’t be for a few weeks.
I think Schaffer would be a good president, I think he would be better about “staying in his lane” more than Bruce has been, roles of other senior leaders like Williams would be a lot more clear I’m betting.
Schaffer is a good cap guy, at least. Whether he’d be good at running the business side? Who knows.
LOL just one of the comments from the PFT article:
themattstapiece says:
April 30, 2018 at 11:43 am
Redskins fans are beside themselves with giddiness over this possibility.
Dale Earnhard Jr…Team President….Matthew McConahauey VP
alright, alright, alright!
F Yeah!
GM: Cooley
Replace Tony Wyllie with Fred Smoot
DG: team chaplain
Make it so!
And speed training specialist.
Voided after the draft commercial
I’m guessing I’m not alone, but Apke ended up as my least favorite pick of this draft.
Last year it was Nicholson though, so I’m always suspect of my evaluations.
Gray has a profile of who he wants at safety and they are picking those guys
He definitely has the speed.
With such a strong overall draft, it didn’t take much for a pick to be my least favorite. You kind of have to nitpick.
I don’t dislike him, but we probably could have gotten him a round or two later.
Maybe Joe Gibbs returns as Team President and Doug is made full GM?
Gibbs being a consultant maybe fine, but i don’t need a 77 y/o rookie Team President
Coughlin in Jax
That can’t log on to snapface
Dude. Stop. That would be just too awesome.
I think Gibbs is gone forever. He’s still very involved in the racing team.
Schaffer would become team president and Doug stay where he is and is defacto GM
That would be fine. Schaffer is respected in the league.
So, where are we with our 2019 mock drafts?
FIX the O Line!
Round 1: Alabama DE
Round 2: Alabama OT
Rounds 3-7 BPA from Alabama.
We had heard the Bruce rumors 2 days ago Jasno had something I think.
From the PFT article:
That said, changes are expected, sooner or later. There’s a belief in league circles that Washington president Bruce Allen hopes to eventually return to the Raiders, where he’d reunite with coach Jon Gruden. Both were previously together with the Raiders and, after that, the Buccaneers.
If it happens, the thinking is that Allen would serve in an executive-type role, with no direct input over personnel but a significant role in managing the business — including the team’s new Las Vegas stadium.
If it is true, that’s the ticket. Build a stadium in Virginia, build a stadium in Las Vegas……let me weigh my options
I lived in Vegas. Harvest festivals won’t be as popular.
Unless it’s a weed harvest. Am I right?
Repost of my…
The way too early 53 man roster projection
QB (3) – Smith, McCoy, Hogan
RB (4) – Guice, Perine, Thompson, Bibbs
TE (4) – Reed, Davis, Sprinkle, Garner
WR (5) – Doctson, Richardson, Crowder, Harris, Davis
OL (9) – Williams, Moses, Nsekhe, Roullier, Scherff, Bergstrom, Kalis, Christian, Catalina
ST (3) – Sundberg, Way, Hopkins
DL (6) – Allen, Ioannidis, Lanier, McGee, Payne, Settle
LB (9) – Kerrigan, Smith, McPhee, Anderson, Brown, Foster, Harvey-Clemons, Virgil, Hamilton
CB (5) – Norman, Dunbar, Moreau, Holsey, Scandrick
S (5) – Swearinger, Nicholson, Everret, Smithson, Apke
What happened to Ziggy Hood?????
Gone
“way too early”
Fat Rob over Bibbs, IMO.
they may even go 5 RBs this year
Do you know if Bibbs has PS eligibility?
looks like he might only played in 15 games in 3 years
most of them in 1 year in Denver, so probably only 1 year of accrued service
12 games for Denver in 2016. 3 weeks with Redskins, so 1 accrued season, so yes, he’s definitely PS eligible.
He may have under the new PS rules.
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Bruce Allen and Jon Gruden are boys. Makes sense. Allen might make for a great person to usher in a new stadium and move to Vegas.
BA: “Hey Jon, welcome to Vegas. The chef will cook for you special, the dancers will kick your tongue out, and your credit is good. Draw chips for everybody in the room, so they can play on the house.”
Would we all do a happy dance? Then does Doug take over? So many questions.
Someone claimed that Mckenzie and his staff had their board, and then Gruden had his own board on his laptop, and they were having to blend them on the fly during the draft. Fucked up if true.
Wow, is there really some truth to this? Christmas in May?
What would Dan do? He has to have a guy there. Would he just let Doug run shit? I hope so.
Mike Mayock
Draft is over….
Actually, I don’t see Mayock coming here now. Eric S and Doug Williams seem to be running it from a personnel side of it. Skins would need new business side of operations.
Condoleeza Rice
The real reason that Doug Williams drafted Payne is that they could understand each other
it was like those freaky twins who talk to each other and nobody else can understand them
Exhibit A
So which DL are going to make this team?
6 according to Finlay, Allen, Payne, Ionnidis, McGee, Settle, and Lanier
Allen, Payne, Ioannidis, Lanier, Settle, McGee
Wow, unanimous
Tiebreaker, you spelled out Ioannidis.
correctly
oi’!
Wrong, it’s IO, Allen, McGee, Payne, Settle, Lanier.
IO, Allen, McGee, Payne, Settle, Lanier.
Dude I really like Doug. He might really be the GM….I know not in title, but the fact he’s up there not Bruce..and he sounds like he knows what he’s talking about.
It’s refreshing that he actually says what he thinks. Not sure it’s the smartest strategy, but I like it nonetheless.
Riiiight, cause he’s still dumb ole’ Doug, needs a translator……
Huh?
What?
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I get it, he’s a chicken!
I read an article this weekend that had Bruce going to the Raiders after the draft. Is that a rumor in DC also?
I saw that too
It was Jason LaConfora…he is reputable.
^BWAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH!!!!!!!!!
further more he is very sure of himself. he doesn’t hesitate. he sounds in control of some of the decisions.
mike5790 Steve Thomas • 2 hours ago
it always is preferable to get 1) your best OL out on the field, AND 2) no matter their Title, the idea is to have the best OL as a whole
and I’m not saying it is, but IF IT WERE true, and the best OL had Twill at LG, then doesn’t that make sense?
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No, zero.
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steve,
well that’s silly, given the caveat about the best OL. you don’t want the best OL?
Moving Trent out of LT does not result in your best OL.
So Williams said that the issue at LG was the guys they liked all were taken to soon and they didn’t want to reach
Why 13 is awkward.
I guess they did not like Crosby as much as people said they did
Eric Schaffer found a loop hold in the CBA
any retired player who hold the rights to we can clone
so we are growing a new LG named Grimm 2.0
they also do not count against the cap so if this works out expect to see a lot more talent soon
I don’t think 6’3″ 273 lbs is going to cut it these days.
He doesn’t have to eat an entire beef side anymore, he can drink shakes, and eat 12 genetically modified chicken breasts each day.
True, plus weight training has come a long way. I’m sure he would be around 300 if he was playing now.
Who knows…
Is anyone willing to join me on this ledge?
If the coaching staff believes in Arie K., so do I. (But we do need some G depth still.)
Crow jerky sounds good. Smoked Cajun Hickory maybe?
Here’s the story from the Seattle Times about Griffin’s potentially faulty 40 time.
https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/seahawks/did-shaquem-griffin-fall-in-the-draft-due-to-a-faulty-40-time/
I’m putting this down as one of those false flag rumors … like some of the BS about Guice.
For the record, and not that it matters, but I think the S. Griffin thing was an interesting story. Right up until he got selected by Seattle.
Then I lost all interest. Is that wrong?
Depends on who you ask.
I don’t have any special animosity towards Seattle, but a lot of Skins fans seem to. What’s up with that?
Man buns
I just find them annoying. The Legion of Boom. Sherman in general (I know, he’s gone.) Pete Carroll in general.
Then you add in the playoff losses (Carlos Roger’s drop. RG’s knee.) The whole 12th man business.
I think there’s plenty not to like. Russel Wilson’s hair.
It’s petty, I know. But I’m okay with pettiness every so often. 🙂
Draft is over. Have we signed Alex Boone yet?
Yes.
Liar! #Fakenews
I’m pretending to be CNN.
Stick with Breitbart and Infowars. That’s your sweet spot.
lol
Yeah, but his sister, Bab has an attitude problem
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Top 50 unsigned FA.
http://nfltraderumors.co/top-2018-nfl-free-agents-list/
I thought it was interesting we took G. Christian before Orlando Brown was selected.
Seems like one of those cases where Skins have a profile, see some potential, and trust Callahan to develop him.
Plus O Brown’s combine was atrocious. There’s that too.
Yeah, his Combine was historically putrid.
I’ll be interested to see how he does. If he turns out to be good then the combine will look pretty worthless.
Love this draft except for the lack of any guard. Stop the MF run.
who is the best available FA guard?
Alex Boone
Sounds right
also Luke Joekel
There will probably be some cuts in the next few weeks, too.
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The circle of life . Osprey , shark . baitfish.
if that is the photo I think it is that was taken in this area
Yeah , that’s what it said .
Osprey, Black Tip reef shark, sail catfish.
Tracking the rumors is a fool’s errand and we’ve never done.
I’m not buying that the HogSty guys are not fools….
LOL
Imma go ahead and say that Guice will get 1200 yards and 10 TDs.
Just heard Brady Quinn say something interesting on XM’s NFL channel. He claims people were told before the draft that Shaq Griffin didn’t really run a 4.38 at the Combine. He said there was a problem with the clock that caused it to start late and Griffin *really* ran something like a 4.58. I can see how that would cause his stock to drop, but I’m calling BS.
They ran a simulcast of Shaquem vs his brother Shaquil, who clocked a 4.38, and Shaquil literally crossed the line about 6″ ahead of Shaquem. So maybe the dude ran a 4.4 instead of a 4.38, but there’s no way it was over 4.5.
See for yourselves: http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-combine/0ap3000000919319/Shaquem-Griffin-runs-blazing-4-38-40-yard-dash-fastest-by-LB-since-2003
Like you couldn’t re-time it based just on the recording?
How accurate could that be, though, when tenths of a second matter?
Well in video, 30 FPS so every frame is .03 seconds. So we may not get it perfect, but we could get it very, very close
Sounds like you found today’s project.
Ok, done, yes, he’s right when I went frame by frame, I got 4.60 (so accounting for some margin of error .58’s probably right
Why would they re-time it? That would be a total fraud, as opposed to a simple equipment error.
They also simulcammed him against Saquon Barkley (4.4) and Calvin Ridley and Griffin clearly beat both of them.
That’s true, and also, I don’t think the Seahawks care. I think they would’ve drafted him when they did anyway.
He’s a great story and all, but honestly, there was no basis to think he was going to run that fast. I was very surprised.
He dropped because he only has 1 hand.
no shit
What was his second time
I saw it live. It was higher, something like 4.5.
If Quinn picks up the slot WR position I think that they either try and move JCrowder or do not extend him
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Washington Redskins UDFA profile – Simmie Cobbs Jr., WR, Indiana https://www.hogshaven.com/2018/4/30/17301424/washington-redskins-udfa-profile-simmie-cobbs-jr-wr-indiana?utm_campaign=hogshaven&utm_content=chorus&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter …
[W]hile Cobbs’ size and physicality are impressive, he does come with some flaws…. According to his draft profile on NFL.com, Cobbs has a drop rate of 11.4 percent. Two plays before his touchdown catch against Denzel Ward, Cobbs had an easy touchdown catch go through his hands. His film shows either incredible catches or frustrating drops. [O]ften times, as Lance Zierlein also noted in his draft profile, Cobbs got lazy with his technique. If Cobbs can remain focused on the ball more, he’ll make more plays like the ones seen in the above footage.
In addition, Cobbs certainly isn’t the fastest wide receiver. At the Combine, Cobbs posted a 40 time of 4.64 seconds. He isn’t able to separate from corners, and thus is often put into contested catch situations. Fortunately, he can win those balls, but that won’t happen every time.
Analysis on Quinn Blanding
By Lance Zierlein
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Draft Projection
Rounds 5-6
Overview
Five-star standout who stepped right into the starting lineup and had an immediate impact on the games. Blanding is a big safety who plays with good football intelligence and an unwavering commitment on each snap, but his lack of makeup speed and his coverage limitations may force him into a more limited role on the next level.
Strengths
Four year-starter with outstanding size
Never had less than 115 total tackles in any of his four seasons
Reads run lane development and hits his fits
Plays with bend and balance when scraping in box
Takes efficient pursuit angles and adjusts early when needed
Strong finishing rate for being high volume tackler
Insanely durable
Played in 98 percent of defensive snaps since he stepped on campus
Diligent in deep coverage staying deeper than deepest
Not easily manipulated by look-off glances from quarterback
Early to find ball when it’s in flight
Plays downfield throws at the high point and can pluck it like a receiver
Decent pattern recognition and digestion of combination routes
Weaknesses
Hips are tight and base is narrow
Doesn’t show much explosiveness or foot quickness in his movement
Transitions from backpedal can be sluggish
Hesitant in space
Will need to squeeze the seam earlier on next level
Can be mismatched in man coverage
Lacks range and burst as single-high safety
Plays with inconsistent instincts and some tunnel vision
Doesn’t have expected ball production from four-year starter
Had issues in 2016 of misjudging ball flight and taking suspect angles
Allowed downhill runners to climb on top of him and bring much of the force
More of a volume tackler than aggressive striker
Sources Tell Us
“From what I can tell, fans and media guys are going to be surprised by where he ends up getting drafted. His size is a big plus, but he’s slow and he’s not a game-changer type in the box.” — NFC team personnel director
40 time?
4.63
He stays deeper than deepest !??? Really…? – Mia
6’2″ 207#. Wow, 98% of D snaps in 4 yrs
I’m looking forward to a post on the UDFA signings. The who’s who and what they bring and potential upside.
We’ll get to that once the Redskins release their official list. Tracking the rumors is a fool’s errand and we’ve never done it. The Redskins usually send out a press release about it on the Monday after the draft, so I anticipate getting something late today, probably.
That’s a good idea.
Like Steve said, when we have an official list we will start taking a look at those guys and give our opinions.
The problem with the rumors is that when people say player X “signed”, sometimes that’s really just a rookie mini-camp invite and not a contract, and it’s impossible to tell the truth right now.
And some guys like Blanding are an easier breakdown, he’s got all the stats & data points you want. But a guy like Alabama WR Cam Sim, not sure what you say about a kid who only had 13 catches his senior year.
we’ve already done that yesterday…lol… check out all the write ups and highlight videos..
Jonathan Allen gave Payne his number. Payne will be 95
Leadership
Interesting. So Allen’s gonna change it up?
I read he’s switching to his college #, 93
Alabama leadership
Lol
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I gave Baltimore and Washington my highest draft grades this year:
7:35 AM – 30 Apr 2018
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Who are you and why do we care?
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seems like a goofball, but that might be a good thing.
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The Cav…………
he any good?
He was projected to be a 5th round prospect.
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From Birmingham to #Redskins Park, a behind-the-scenes look at Da’Ron Payne’s path from the #NFLDraft. #HTTR
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Jahri Evans used to be one of the top guards in the NFL. That’s no longer the case because Evans is 35, but he was still a viable starter for Green Bay last year.
Is he still available? Maybe a 1 year stop gap…
Hit my quota early
Get some!
Quota of?
Telemarketing calls
bong hits
Dungeons and dragons victories.
I also think Josh Harvey Clemons is gonna step up this year. He was a higher talent player that slipped due to off the field issues last year. Seemed to play well and didn’t get in trouble so hopefully he’s better year 2.
We drafted such good players I wonder who, if anyone, goes tot he PS. I know last season the only reason (reported by Keim) we kept Sprinkle on the roster was because he would have been snatched by another team.
Which leads me to also think the Redskins might be in position to grab a really good player or 2 from someone else’s practice squads.
I”d say Quinn, most likely. Other than the three locks, he has Harris, Davis, and Brian Quick, plus the UDFA WRs to beat out for maybe two spots. And I have to think Harris has a big head start for one of them.
Get Geron and Apke in the weight room
Get Settle down to 320
Really looking forward to seeing them playing
the guard from Iowa too
Shaun Dion Hamilton….this is also a savy pick. We needed more depth at ILB and we got a guy who used to share time with high picks Reggie Ragland and Ruben Foster. If he pans out we got away with this pick.
Good film, imo
The only reason he didn’t go just as high as Ragland and Foster was because of his injuries. Could be a steal.
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The best part about Payne/Settle—no more Hankins questions!
So are we going to sign him or what?
That’s a question.
I guess he’s saying that we won’t and that he was flooded with tons of questions about why we didn’t sign Hankins.
i disagree. IF, and that’s a big if, Hankins asking price isn’t too high, I’d def sign him.
The team now has about 1,654 defensive lineman. He’s really not needed anymore.
isn’t about need, plus I’d drop hood and the McShit twins in a skinny minute
Not if we switch to a 6-2 Defensive front.
dayum, how’d you know?
six man DL rotation would really wear down the opposing OL
We have 3 that are useless. We only added one legit guy and one with potential but is still really a question mark.
Yea, we could use another guy…
Amen!
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Jay was beating the boards for Trey Quinn @treyquinn8 early, sometimes you gotta ignore Jay & let him do what he gotta do. You dont pick him 1 time n he might walk out the room on you, but he comes back smiling because you got the guy he wanted – Doug Williams #Redskins @team980
Trey Gruden
he’s one of the best slot WR prospects in the draft
We compared Quinn to Ryan Grant on this show. I think Jay might’ve found his new son.
I know the Patriots got another slot guy in the draft, but if you don’t draft him, he’s perfect for the Patriots system, and my first thought was when they drafted him is that they stole him from the Patriots UDFA class
I had a similar thought.
I am all in on Trey Quinn. (Probably means **Smashcut**™ BUST.)
the thing with TWill moving over is, yeah, we’ve seen them do it in a pinch and it worked real well, but fact is TWill doesn’t want to have it permanent, he’s said no way in the past.
Didn’t Norwell get more money to play G this year than Trent is making at LT?
dunno. wouldn’t surprise me.
That, plus Trent is an All-Pro tackle. You don’t fix one hole by creating another one. That’s dumb. Both Robbie Duncan and Adam Taraschke have told us on and off air that Nsekhe will be able to play guard, and I trust their informed opinions.
Nsekhe needs space. He’ll have none at guard.
It will be a short experiment.
I’ll trust our experts who played OL at the Division I level over your opinion.
sensible
I’ll trust my years of watching decades more football than those young’ns.
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NO!!!!!! He won’t!!!!! – kon
I’m flattered that you’re this sweet on me. But…maybe not be so public about it. People will talk.
exactly, that’s why the All-Pro saying, ehhh naaah, carries the weight it does.
He’ll be on IR by game six
BTG…you have to be happy with the draft. We got 2 big DL guys…with Settle being a 2nd round talent..and we got him in the 5th. How you feeling about it?
I’m really happy with the draft
I think that the DL is vastly improved
I think that Quinn will be a good get
The only pick I was on the fence about was Christian but now that I have read more I am cool with it. My 2 favorites due to value were Guice at 59th and Settle in round 5. I think we got 3 dudes who will make big time contributions this year. The rest provide depth and STeams help.
Geron was highly regarded by scouts
Great footwork
We have arguably the best OL and DL coach in the league. I expect these units to continue to develop and become ( FINALLY) a real strength of this team.
Who is gonna be this years JNORMAN or DJAX???
Dez?
Blech
I was thinking it hasn’t happened yet
Williams, Nsehke, Roullier, Scherff, Moses. (Clemmings , Christian, Bergstrom, Arie K) We usually keep 9 OL right..or 10?
right now, if you had a guy who started 4 years (RS frosh to Sr) for either Iowa or Wisconsin, wouldn’t you expect that guy to make the team?
pencil in Walsh
Tough to predict an UDFA to make the team, but I trust Callahan to pick the best 9 or 10 guys.
I see him on the PS at worst.
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#Redskins Doug Williams w/ @kevins980 on if #GeronChristian will play any guard on the O-Line – ” I don’t know whether he’s that guy, I think it might be more sensible to move Ty Nsehke in at guard…”
I think that has been the secret plan if they did not get a guard they liked in the draft
I heard they did not have high opinions of the guards available in FA for the price point they wanted to spend
realistically you can only probably pay 3 or maybe 4 starters on the OL at any given time. 5th spot you have to just keep finding good value players. But your OL can’t take up 50 + million every year
More sensible to move Twill inside
Nsehke then LT until Christian is ready to be a starter?
It’s not sensible to move an All-Pro LT in his prime anywhere.
It’s more sensible than Nsekhe at guard.
No it’s not. Nsekhe can play guard.
Yes it is. And, barely.
He’ll eat up the throwing lane. He’s going to knock into his own guys. He’s just better suited to protect the edge. TWill on the other hand, well first…he’d get less wear and tear at the guard. Which he needs. Also, he’d be better inside than Nsekhe while Nsekhe is more than capable of protecting the blind side.
Look…you’re tired from a long weekend. Just…take it easy today.
It’s a ridiculous proposition right now. You’re wrong.
Stay in your box.
He doesn’t want to
He’ll suffer durability issues with an extended stay at Guard.
it always is preferable to get 1) your best OL out on the field, AND 2) no matter their Title, the idea is to have the best OL as a whole
and I’m not saying it is, but IF IT WERE true, and the best OL had Twill at LG, then doesn’t that make sense?
No, zero.
If you put the most powerful engine in a car, but the car actually goes faster with a lighter, less powerful, more efficient engine, you’d still put in the most powerful engine?
Why are you talking cars? Trucks man, trucks. Torque. Wtf?
Ya’ll are obviously small creatures.
You have to wonder if Trent can hold up to playing Guard week in, week out. Pass
Guards have longer careers than tackles. For a reason.
We talk about moving TWill inside to add years to his career.
For a reason.
Bollocks
We have 5 OT’s Williams, Moses, Nsekhe, Christian and Clemmings who are are all getting paid well, and will probably all make the roster. Don’t know if there’s much room for anyone else on the OT side of the equation.
Are you ranking Christian above Clemmings? Or is that just how they came out?
Not meant in any particular order. Just saying contracts wise they are all probably locked in.
Clemmings is getting almost 2 million this season, for example
NO!
We have no left guard!!!
When we play this coming weekend we will only have 4 OL on the field!!!!!!
– kon
Man. I got to hand it to you Beans. Your foot is in your mouth, while your head is up your ass…and still you can post.
We got to get you on the youtubes. Instabooks too.
I think that’s physically impossible
You dare question me!!!!!!!
Clearly the physical probabilities are well beyond your scope of understanding!
Sniff sniff
Roses, eh?
Dang dude. I’m sorry. I’m just razz’n. Didn’t mean to hurt your feels.
One guy on the roster to keep in mind for the Guard spot. Orlando Franklin is still here from last year, I know he’s bounced around since his time with Denver as a starter.
Bergstrom as well.
Jinx
Franklin, Bergstrom, Kalis, Catalina, etc.
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Skins new starting LG isn’t on the roster yet. Patience.
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From what I’ve seen, my assumption is that the FO/coaches think the LG is on the roster
now if we just knew who?
Could very well be.
Michelle Wolf, FTB!
Send Buck to do it
he might…lol
no. sarah sanders could get some if she played her cards right though .
lol
Vulgar!
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Wow they had 4 or 5 offers to move back in round 1. Probably could have gotten Payne a bit later.
coulda, shoulda, woulda, fuck all that! We got our guy! end of story
Yeah I know its funny to hear after the fact.
Brad Evans fantasy prediction for Guice.
Derrius Guice, Was, RB (34.1, RB14) – Every draft someone for some reason whether medical or off-the-field related becomes a human anchor. Tossed into a blue abyss, Guice was that guy this year. Widely projected to sneak into the latter half of Round 1, the former LSU rusher plummeted to Washington at No. 59 overall, a true steal. Now a member of a franchise desperately seeking a pile mover, the passed over rookie should immediately make waves. A mixture of power, speed and balance, Guice is arguably the most aggressive rusher in this year’s loaded RB class. He’s patient, equipped with ideal size (5-foot-10, 212 pounds) and finishes runs angrily at the second level. During his collegiate days it was rare for him to be felled on initial contact. His advanced data didn’t necessarily match the tape – he totaled a fair 3.19 YAC per attempt, ranked No. 56 in breakaway percentage and forced a missed tackle on just 18.1 percent of his rushes in 2017 – but Guice exhibits the necessary juice to flatten tacklers on early downs. With only Samaje Perine to supplant, he’s sure to step into a 14-16 touch per game workload in short order functioning as a two-down truck and primary goal-line option. Chris Thompson does cap his receiving potential and given his assertive downhill running style staving off team trainers increases risk, but he’s yet another first-year pounder capable of amassing RB2-level numbers this fall.
Fearless Forecast: 232 carries, 993 rushing yards, 17 receptions, 124 receiving yards, 7 total touchdowns
Maurice Hurst was that guy this year…
Hopefully we can actually run block for this guy… we haven’t done a very good job of that for a while
Amen!
I think he’ll get a 1000 yards. Absolutely believe that.
Key player to show development this season: Anderson.
Key player(s) to stay healthy: all. Since that’s not possible, I’ll go with Allen and Nicholson. (Smith is a given.)
My thoughts on DL post draft
I think the DL got a whole lot better with Payne and Settle
Most of the sacks are going to come from Kerrigan, Smith, Anderson
put opposing team interior offensive line better be good because we are going to put good pressure up the middle on passing downs
I think of the DL Allen and Ioannidis get the most sacks
but remember Lanier had 7 batted down passes which is as good as a sack most of the time (gets offense off the field on 3rd down)
I think adding Payne and Settle along with Allen back from injury go a long way to improving the run defense
Settle’s gonna do that spin move of his and leave Hernandez shaking his head when he see’s his QB on the ground.
Just keep him away from Cookout
I’m putting a rack of ribs for every sack in his contract.
Of course you are.
damn right!
Hopefully he sends every other coupon back.
Ryan Harris, the former NFL tackle, wasn’t that high on Hernandez. Said that to be a good guard you had to have quick feet rather than just be big and strong. Maybe a sliver of hope that he won’t be that good for the Giants after all. Flies in the face of what all the “experts” were saying all weekend. But who knows.
His weakness will be their LT
They’ve got the guy from New England there now.
Solder? Well that sucks
if they’re better than what they had, they’re also now deeper
And younger. It will be nice to have a core of young homegrown linemen to build upon rather than keep trying to fill in with FA stopgaps.
Handful of plays here in the LSU vs Bama game where you’ll see Guice blocking.
The first block is on the second play.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KV3FmlFAqWE
stat line for that game
19 carries 71 yards, 5 rec 29 yards
If S D Hamilton can be healthy, that is also a steal. Will be interesting to see if indeed Anderson is in better shape/prepared this year.
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The #Redskins drafted OT Geron Christian in the third round. This could mean a move of Ty Nsekhe to guard but maybe not for Week 1 https://buff.ly/2Frgda5
I think, they drafted Christian in the least as a replacement for Nsekhe (after this year).
Absolutely
Horrible pick – kon
but remember you want to also draft for the future like they did with Moreau so you’re not forced to draft out of need
pretty much the entire draft after Guice was looking forward, and looking at the disaster of what happened when the starters went down. OT, ILB, S
Saw Trey Quinn mentioned below.
That’s a great 7th round pick. imo. Five star recruit. Tons of production at SMU. Decent size. Competitive. What’s not to like?
There’s going to be some really good competition at WR in camp.
so, would it be a psychological terror if Cobb and Quinn started alongside Richardson this year?
(I AM NOT predicting that)
Cobb, Davis, Crowder, Harris, Quinn.
Psychological terror.
at least at first, we’d hear no end to the “wasted draft picks, front office can’t do anything right” rants
but that’s all sunk cost. best players … those that puzzle together the best units out on the field… they should be the ones who play regardless of how they were acquired
Don’t forget about me!
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Watched a short video on Guice and his growing up in “The Bottoms.” Looks like he lived a rough youth and seems to be a good kid. Guess I’ve heard 2 sides now.
You never hear about an area or neighborhood with a nickname like “the bottoms” and it’s a good place to grow up.
well we’re moving on down, to the bottoms…
Hey maybe the staff in Philly are dicks
They are in Philly
I thought it was a given…
Duce Staley is a first class dbag
So they got into it at the combine?
Rumors
Sure, but in Philly, or at the combine?
Amen! He truly is. ftg!
could have used a little more linebacker depth, but they might find it on the undrafted free agent market.
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Draft picks: Alabama DT Da’Ron Payne (No. 13 overall), LSU RB Derrius Guice (No. 59 overall), Louisville OT Geron Christian (No. 74 overall), Penn State S Troy Apke (No. 109 overall), Virginia Tech DT Tim Settle (No. 163 overall), Alabama LB Shaun Dion Hamilton (No. 197 overall), Virginia Tech CB Greg Stroman (No. 241 overall), SMU WR Trey Quinn (No. 256 overall).
Day 1 grade: B
Day 2 grade: A-
Day 3 grade: B+
Overall grade: B+
The skinny: Payne wasn’t overly productive in college, but his ability to stop the run was desperately needed for the league’s worst run defense. If he continues to improve, he and former Tide teammate Jonathan Allen could be a great one-two punch. The Redskins took a chance on running back Derrius Guice, who was tough to tackle at the college level. They needed a true bellcow back in Washington, and now they have one who runs angry and will no doubt carry a large chip on his shoulder for dropping in the draft. Christian played both sides of the line in Bobby Petrino’s offense at Louisville, and his athleticism made fans of scouts across the league. He’ll have to up his game to handle the strength of pro defensive ends. Keep in mind that Washington included its third-round pick as part of the deal to acquire quarterback Alex Smith this off-season. Apke provides special-teams help and could become a starter in the back half in time. Settle bolsters that run defense with Payne. Stroman’s a lean corner, but competitive. Quinn is not irrelevant in any way, even though he was the draft’s final pick, and could be a factor in 2018.
FYI…every other team in the NFC East got an A rating. We get a B.
I read those ratings and laughed. Ginas, sure. But philthy and Dallas? lol
Dallas draft was not very good at all.
Payne is very underrated, IMO.
people say that 1) Alabama’s rotation meant that their DL often don’t individually put up big numbers (I haven’t verified that) and 2) getting sacks is not the same as generating pressure, if you could get 4-5 sacks out of Payne and Ioannidis every year, you’d take that
Lotta people hang their hats on sacks (phrasing?)
That’s not the main measure of the DL IMO
Ioannidis got 4.5 sacks last year with all those guys hurt including himself
Sounded like Stroman might be our new KO and punt returner.
I’m stoked to have a legit RB. I mean…since Portis we haven’t had a real talent at RB. Morris was a product of RG3s threat to run. Guice is going to give us the balance on offense we haven’t had under Gruden.
I disagree about Morris.
Guy still got it done with out RGIII after 2012. Sure he didn’t put up the career stats he did as a rookie, but 1,200 yards in his 2nd and 1,000 his third seasons, 700 in his final year here splitting carries. He was still effective after Griffin wasn’t.
The issue with was more the beating any back seems to take in a Mike Shanahan zone scheme. We knew how Shanny chews through RB’s.
The way I read it was that while Morris looked like a Portis-level talent in year 1… he actually wasn’t Portis-level without RG and zone read to open things up.
I agree he was still effective, and a good back, but he wasn’t a Grade A talent on his own, like CP, and hopefully, Guice.
If you consider Morris draft pedigree he was a stone cold killer regardless who was at QB
I just hope they don’t baby him in bubble wrap and then he gets injured 1st Q of the season.
This is a great comment. Very true. I’ve always thought Morris was a byproduct of the RG/pistol-option etc.
And, I can definitely see the Portis comp. I just hope he can learn pass pro anywhere near the Portis level.
He’s got pass pro skills.
LG: my chrystal ball sez we snag a solid vet, a cap/camp casualty. Early on enough to come in a develop the most important thing in the OL unit: chemistry.
We need some OL now for sure… at least at G.
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Those are the numbers I’m looking into as well, project who can take the job over from Crowder, who was down on ST last year.
Derrius Guice – KR 31/695/22.4 Stopped playing teams Sr year. Never did much PR.
Greg Stroman – 127 PR, 1108 yds/8.7 avg/4 td’s, KR 23/478 20.8 avg
| Sr Year, 35/397/11.3/2 Probably the early favorite of the new class for the punt return duties
De’Mornay Pierson-El PR 74/904/3TD KR 10/147 Fresh year 34/17.5 yds avg Numbers went down every year, but look at what he did his first year in college.
Martez Carter, 26/253/9.7 KR 92/2066/22.5/4 Not much as a punt returner, but those kick return numbers are impressive.
Pierson El was injured a lot, and I don’t know that the Redskins are the org than can fix that. He actually had decent numbers as a WR last year
Yep his stats are solid.
And we all know about KR’s with the -El last name.
Randal-El
Kal-El
I’d rather bring back Lauvao than see Arie in there.
How messed up is that?
SO MESSED UP!!!!!!!!!
This draft SUCKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sarcasm font?
You watch the race yesterday?
Skins new starting LG isn’t on the roster yet. Patience.
I’m patient
The panicky type of patient
LOL! Who knows, maybe Kalis develops in Mad Scientist Callahan’s lab.
Someone mentioned that they thought the FO was high on this guys…
Maybe they just said High
Some other team’s cuts?
Yea…that’s what I want. The guy that was already not good enough to start.
That’s a big’ol meh.
Do another bump, you’re almost there.
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Meh…
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Yeah
don’t want to over-sell it, but if C Roullier can put in some good reps year 1, then there is no reason to believe a guy like Welsh can’t play there for a year or two before Twill slides over
Im looking for big things from Robert Davis and Mo Harris this year!
That Simmie Cobbs kid looks awesome tho. And what about Mr. Irrelevant?
on paper, Cobb prob pushes Harris off the roster
Wait for it. It’ll be a thing, after it is….little tweets and little marks showing up on stat sheets.
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Check out 1:59. That play alone likely got Cobbs on Jay’s radar. Wins a fade against #4 overall CB Ward.
Wonder sometimes why a kid like that goes un-drafted.
Size – Check
Numbers- 139 catches for 1990 yards and 12 TD’s in 3 seasons, those are solid stats.
I get that he’s not a breakaway speed type, but how many 6’4 guys are?
Candidly: lots.
Many many
and they’re drafted day 1 and 2 unless they’re pretty raw
fair, but is he that much different than, say, Courtland Sutton?
He ran 4.65.
Lots of guys run in that range and succeed. Norman ran in that range, and it hasn’t seemed to hurt him too much.
At that speed, I think success/failure depends on ball skills, competitiveness, and route consistency. Do those things well, 4.65 is plenty fast (especially at 6-4). Do them poorly, and it doesn’t matter if you run 4.3 (see Pryor).
he’s an Art Monk type
Arie ain’t nfl caliber
He’s getting cut at the end of camp
That dog won’t hunt
Just remember how folks wrote off Grant, Moses, Fuller, and Murphy before you proclaim him DOA.
I trust the coaching staff. If they think Arie can cut it (and I don’t know for sure that they do), I’m not going to write him off.
So … who’s going to play LG if we cut Arie?
Well considering that we don’t have a game for 5 months or so I’m not worried today
UDFA update:
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This is the part where Steve looks in here and wonders what the hell happened for the blog to go from talking about the podcast to what’s going on now.
So, doing some searching on UDFA’s for a post I may work on. Fun fact about Martez Carter the kid we got from Grambling. Good Kick Return numbers, but he also kicked 3 extra points in 2015 (guess the real kicker was hurt)
We got some nice prospects on our UDFA pick ups.
If anything, and I say this optimistically…we might be looking at a competitive camp.
they’re def looking for a p/k return guy
Pierson-El is that type of guy (if he can stay healthy) too
p/k returner, run WR sweeps, backup slot WR
he’s also from Alexandria (West Potomac HS), so maybe he’s a tryout?
SMU kid and at least one other small WR who might fit the bill on ST
I know I know… “*smash cut —>PS*” but all the discussion of OG?
You know they picked up an OG (Sean Welsh) from Iowa who started his frosh year right? LG RG RT.
Doesn’t matter he’s not 330 lbs and pushed the bar 35 times. He’s in the mold of C Roullier.
“looks a bit out of place on an Iowa line filled with huge players. But his versatility, toughness, and mobility earned him a starting role since his freshman season. Welsh started all 13 games in 2017, 10 at right guard and three at right tackle, to earn second-team All-Big Ten recognition. He was a second team USA Today All-American and third-team All-Conference honors as a junior, starting 12 games (11 at right guard, one at right tackle). Welsh started every game his sophomore season at left guard (12 games) or right tackle (two), and was voted honorable mention All-Big Ten by league coaches for his efforts. Even as a redshirt freshman Welsh earned honors, as the Big Ten Network’s website gave him first-team freshman All-Big Ten accolades after he started nine of the 13 games in which he played (seven at left guard, two at right guard).” -NFL.com
So we got this dude as an UDFA?
Yes
You know what they say, can never get too many fat Midwestern guys to play OL
his MO is that he’s fairly quick and athletic for a lineman, but he’s only 6’3″ 306 and he’s got good lower body build, but could use some more upper body power
My rare political comment….but this Wolf person….the stuff that comes out of peoples mouths. Does it make them feel bigger better badder than everyone else ? Surely not funny. Sanders should have just excused herself vs sitting thru that farce.
Trump should heed your advice as well.
The mock outrage is a bit over the top. These people complaining are the same ones who applauded Trump when called women pigs, mocked Fiorina’s appearance, mocked Hillary’s appearance, mocked the appearance of Cruz’s wife, mocked a disabled reporter, etc.
You really have no clue even those at Morning Joe are criticizing it vehemently. If you don’t get that you are just ignorant or purposely being obtuse
I’ve only seen the “highlight” reel, so I can’t comment on the whole thing. What I saw didn’t strike me as worse than thing’s I’ve heard POTUS say. But again, she’s a stand-up and he’s the Commander in Chief.
That’s like you being a douchebag and me insulting your wife’s hideous appearance and suggesting that’s fair game because of your douchbaggery.
You never make any sense man.
Didn’t watch it. Only read about it.
Don’t listen to the media. Read what Wolf said. Which wasn’t all that bad.
Difference in class and classless
She didn’t say anything classless. At all.
The vulgarities and sexual anatomies references is classless. Period. Case closed.
But if someone went off on a female on Obama’s staff…..
Awwwww, shucky!
lol
Every time Sarah steps up to the podium, I get excited because I’mnot really sure what we’re going to get: you know, a press briefing, a bunch of lies or divided into softball teams. “It’s shirts and skins,
and this time, don’t be such a little bitch, Jim Acosta.”
I actually really like Sarah. I think she’s very resourceful. Like, she burns facts, and then she uses the ash to create a perfect smoky eye. Like, maybe she’s born with it; maybe it’s lies.
It’s probably lies.
And I’m never really sure what to call Sarah Huckabee Sanders. You know, isit Sarah Sanders? Is Sarah Huckabee Sanders? Is it Cousin Huckabee? Is it Auntie Huckabee Sanders? Like, what’s Uncle Tom but for white women who disappoint other white women? Oh, I know: Aunt Coulter.
Call me crazy….
that doesn’t read like someone going off.
And she sure didn’t say anything about Sander’s looks.
Are you deaf?
I must be. Because she went after the media and the democrats as much as she did anyone else. But all anyone is saying is that she insulted Sander’s looks. Which she clearly…did not do.
Republicans are easy to make fun of. It’s like shooting fish in a Chris Christie. But I also want to make fun of Democrats. Democrats are harder to make fun of because you guys don’t do anything.
People think you might flip the House and Senate this November, but you guys always find a way to mess it up. You’re somehow going to lose by 12 points to a guy named Jeff Pedophile Nazi Doctor
We’ve got MSNBC here. MSNBC’s news slogan is, “This is who we are.” Guys, it’s not a good slogan. “This is who we are” is what your mom thinks the sad show on NBC is called. “Did you watch ‘This Is Who We Are’ this week? Someone left on a Crockpot, and everyone died.”
I watch “Morning Joe” every morning. We now know that Mika and Joe are engaged. Congratulations, you guys. It’s like when a Me Too works out.
We also have Rachel Maddow. We cannot forget about Rachel Maddow. She is the Peter Pan of MSNBC. But instead of never growing up, she never gets to the point. Watching Rachel Maddow is like going to Target. You went in for milk, but you left with shampoo, candles and the entire history of the Byzantine Empire. “I didn’t need this.”
We’ve got our friends at CNN here. Welcome, guys, it’s great to have you. You guys love breaking news, and you did it. You broke it. Good work.
Vulgarities and anatomy references?
Wow. Wow.
What a fucking prude.
And why was she using the P word? Because Trump used the P word to describe how he grabs women without their consent. Shocking that a comedian would hit that bait.
Difference is that Wolf is a comedian and Trump is President of the United States.
Not refering to Trump or Jesus. I refer to classless “comedy”.
Sanders rose above that shit and handled herself with class and dignity. Never heard of that whiny-voiced comic and I’ll probably never hear from her again.
She’s about to get the ‘Kathy Griffin” career death penalty. Watch.
Nah
That whiny voice from the get go …peeps shoulda exited asap
Amen!
I don’t even know what you’re talking about, am assuming it’s to do with the correspondence dinner?
Over the last 15 years or so they’ve tried to get it to be more “fryers club roast”. But it doesn’t work. Comedians still try and soft punch too often when the politicians sit right in front of them.
Roast comedy only works if you’re willing to go to a point where you will tell someone to kill themselves. if you can’t do that, don’t even try.
Equally important. You have to be a person willing to laugh at your own faults, if you can’t do that than you shouldn’t show up to those things.
Simmie Cobbs (along w/ Blanding) is another UDFA that I saw projected as a late-mid round pick. Could be a contributor on teams. Work his way up, a la Grant or Thrash (old school).
I think he has starter potential.
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Just ribbing you D-C…
It’s cool, Josh Allen.
lol
if he’s better than Docston… well, I mean, you play the best guys you have
but I’m guessing he might be on the order of an upgrade over Harris; so he might make the team
what is surprising to me is how many slot/wing P/K return guys they’re looking at
I liked watching some of his footage.
Last year’s Robert Davis?
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Listening to my guys @JunksRadio and @EBJunkies is predicting 320 carries for Derrius Guice as a rookie. That’s some Stephen Davis in the 90s stuff. Jay Gruden is still the coach, right?
Yeah, that’s not going to happen. Nor should it, really. Guice will be the lead back but Kelly, Perine, and CT will also get some carries.
…if they make the team. if Guice emerges as a clear number 1, there’s less need to keep 4 RBs
especially if you keep an “extra” WR for punt/kick returns
So, if you add up all the runs by players not named Chris Thompson last year:288
Oh and 10 of those are also WR/TE’s so really 278
Jay’s putting on his Woody Hayes hat this year.
Jim Zorn wore the Judge Smailes striped fedora.
It looked good on him, though….
320 carries would have put him at No. 2 in the NFL the last couple years in terms of attempts.
Who is the leader of this Washington Redskins team?
Trent?
Little Danny Boy $nyder
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That’s who it SHOULD be. One come-from-behind, long drive to win a game and boom, team leader.
His efforts in the weight room and training field ought to get that ball rolling.
All that other guy did was stand around and talk about Creed.
I know we all hate this idea, but I really think the coaching staff thinks Arie is going to be ready.
In the past, I know we’ve all been down on other folks who ended up panning out (Moses, Murphy, Fuller come to mind), so maybe… just maybe he has a chance to be effective after three years learning.
Keim reported he’s had a good off-season; for whatever that’s worth.
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personal bias, I’d love Arie to come back and suddenly show he can be a decent guard for us.
Even if he’s not a pro-bowl caliber player, if he can resolve the big issue at LG and give us a base level of play I’m good with that. We have 3 really good studs on the OL right now, if LG is the weakest link, fine.
Has anything surfaced about Guice’s “embarrassing” ongoing situation? I’ve been out of touch since Saturday afternoon.
I believe a bunch of nothing will come out of this. Maybe he was dishonest about some of the supposed stuff that was said at his combine interviews..but ultimately ended up benefiting us getting him at 59.
He plays video games
I watched him closely in post-draft interviews and he just seems like a young kid to me. Spoke pretty well to his slide being a blessing and thanks the Skins for putting their trust in him etc. Didn’t sound like a douche to me. I think he fucked up in how he handled his interviews and some of the comments he made but he sounds like he’s ready to get to work to me.
The only red flag (and it’s a minor one) to me, was when he said that the Redskins knew what they were getting in him, and he can’t change who he is.
The rumor is he got in a shouting match with Duce Staley, first the b-squad national twitter reporters, and called it an “altercation”
said it was at his Eagles visit, Eagles said no. Now they’ve changed it to at the
combine in his interview, and just heated words exchanged.
F*** Duce Staley
As for LG, maybe the Redskins feel good about some prospects in camp. Maybe someone like Kalis came to voluntary workouts in great shape. They could be taking a wait-and-see approach going in to OTAs. You can always sign someone. Maybe its a cut from another team or a FA currently on the market.
June 1 cuts. And we did resign Bergstrom.
Skins clearly like the players who are coached by ‘Bama and VT.
“He runs with violence (Guice) and Clinton Portis ran like that….and that trickles down to the rest of the team….fires everyone up…..”
– Keim
I like that
Fire up Jay…run the ball in the RZ
Don’t you mean throw the fade?
–Jay
When you look at the first two picks of the draft for everybody, there’s not too many teams you’d full on swap with.
The Giants with Barkley and Hernandez probably. But not too many others.
Agree. We took 2 legitimate 1st round talents in the first 2 rounds who are both likely week 1 starters versus the Cardinals.
“They got better against the run and they got better running the ball.”
– John Keim on AM980 right now with Sheehan
Sounds like last year when we got Perine
Good too see Q. Blanding w a try out. I think he at least makes the practice squad. Ball hawk.
Wouldnt be surprised come fall if Breeland isnt brought back…
Hearing Neshke to G…prob a real good idea.
a little shocked he didn’t get drafted, thought most websites had him listed as a mid 5th round.
Agreed
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We still have 17 million in cap space. Is there any chance we add a few more pieces? There is still a decent amount of unsigned FA’s out there that def can play.
Well some of that 17 goes to rookies, who’s deals are not signed.
Other than maybe a 1 year deal for a LG rental, I don’t see many big offers. Want rollover for 2019
Hankins?
A left guard? I think we have enough quality linemen to play a solid starting 5. Nooshkie at LG might be the way to go. I think Christian just might end up playing early if not week 1. Really like his pass blocking.
I think he was picked to be swing Tackle…and since we have Ty for only one more year maybe they will move him to LG.
You can’t say Callahan doesn’t have some quality pieces right now to work with.
I think we’ve got 5 good players; Ty, Trent, Chase, Brandon, Morgan, you can make a starting line with that. The new kid Christian, I hope we can develop into a swing T/ OL’s 6th man for the next 4 seasons or more.
Still competition for the 7&8 spots.
If they could find a LG for 1 year on 1-2 million, I’d be OK with that move at this point.
Shefter reported that the Redskins were going to draft RB Kerryon Johnson before he was picked by the Lions.
I think we got the better back, and we got our 3rd rounder back too. Brilliant.
Bingo.
‘Safeties catch him…’
Only cuz he slows down so he can truck ’em.
Lotta dead air this show
yes, not sure why. Must have been a connection problem
Cooley is getting all kinds of national slurpage for his comments about how landing Payne and Guice would constitute a dream scenario. Dan Hellie on NFLN keeps mentioning that and obviously knew/knows and likes Cooley so I get that.
But even Mel Kiper, who is a Baltimore guy and a renown critic of the Skins (as he should be) thought the Skins had a very smart draft.
You can do this for a lot of teams but whatever; looking at our picks we got 2 legit 1st rounders and 2 or 3 who could have been 2nd rounders and even our 7th round pick looks like a dude who is going to make the team assuming he chips in on ‘teams.
Very good, very smart draft. Is it as good as the best draft the Skins ever had (1981)? I am not going there. But this one has a chance to be one of the best. Time will tell, of course and it might take 3 years before we ‘know’. But our team is adding real fucking football players; good ones.
Nice job Front Office!
Overall I don’t see how anyone can be unhappy about this. Only qualm I have is not getting a LG. But I love this Stroman guy the more I look at his stats and highlights.
Shame his name is Greg.
Little bit lacking?
The words used were….’plagued by missed tackles’
Yay!
Apke….Teams obviously. But where? Coverage or returns?
Both.
Yup. He could really develop on the backside too. Take a couple of years but that’s what the draft is all about.
I’d start him in coverage maybe at wing? Feel like our gunners are set if Dunbar & Everette still are on the roster
I’m sure Doug was able to get a vibe of Guice, given that they are both from the same area.
Enjoy the show, this is one that Doug wants on his Wikipedia page.
Nsekhe at guard…I mean
You don’t know that
Tell that to Jay
I’ll just wait and see.
It will be interesting. TWill, Moses, and Nooshkie all still recovering from injuries.
Guice is 5’11….not all that short.
Safeties catch him, if it’s a long enough run. That doesn’t mean he didn’t already truck a Corner and a Linebacker to get there, though.
I’m somewhere between 5′ 11″ and 6′, but my natural thick hair makes me look 6’1
That beer belly takes off an inch
I’m 6’2″ with a skinned head and bare feet.
Ohhhh! The Dallas rookie sensation, Van Turd, de-cleated as he tried to cut the field on the surprising young Redskins running back, Derrius Guice.
We call h’m Ay Kay foeTsemm, whaaaaat – Lil Wayne
Need to get Scherff and Roullier, Sprinkle, Robert Davis, get um pumped up with Guice, hurt people. You fuckin’ know they wanna blow some poor motherfucker up that’s trying to get and angle on Guice when he takes it outside at the second level.
Whoever ends up LGuard better share this fever
That was gonna be my next question. Wtf we gonna do at LG?
My biggest question, gotta wait and see.
Arie is going to the pro-bowl
Shnarf
I just hope he tears it up on the field. I remember Clinton Portis’s first run in a regular-season game. took it to the house
I hate Nick Saban with the fire of a thousand suns
– Steve
Torrian Gray, Doug Williams, Tomsula… guy’s are hitting heavy.
That was funny what Payne said at the presser…
‘Tomsula. He love me crazy’
Yeah, coaches, baby, real coaches
Take the high road on Guice, I can’t wait. I’ll be all the way on ignore after the migration, lmfao.
He’s a Skin, so I love him. #shamelesshomer
Dude’s gonna be fine, this is a check on Doug’s legacy, he’s stickin’ this one.
My thing is…there’s someone I support about to make a choice I’m not keen on and throw them a shrug. But, they make that choice anyway. I’m not going to turn my back, I’m going to say ‘ Well okay. Lets see where this goes. I’m here for ya!’
Benefit of the doubt until shown otherwise
I’m all in.
He’s getting on the with fans. Taking pics with little hogs. Being cool with the media.
I’m waiting to see what happens on the field.
Gonna run with violence, that’s what’s up.
So what was the knock on Guice? Kid has the talent for sure.
Other than a question about durability…the rest is a mysterious mystery.
Lil Wayne is his agent though. So expect Guice to get tattoos on his face and smoke weed in public.
Lil Wayne?!? Huh.
It’s complicated
Short story….Wayne is CEO and owner of an agency https://www.youngmoneyapaa.com/
I’ll be dayumed…
I have no idea where that came from – Bruce
It’s gonna be chilly Willy, lil hammerknocker, you got ole’ Doug wit ya – Doug Williams
The rumor was he got in a shouting match with Duce Staley, first they said it was at his Eagles visit, now they’ve changed it to at the combine in his interview.
Dude asked him if he was a punk, Guice took offence to the remark. Ooooooooooooooo mystery…….
kon, for now • 36 minutes ago
Alex hung over this morning?
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No. Woke up and was instantly mad. Something got screwy in our Soundcloud account that messes with our RSS feeds/Itunes all that, couldn’t update anything.
Oh man. I hate when that happens.
When at 6 AM you’re troubleshooting something, yes. No fun.
Blurst
Secundth
Number third
Who…does number 2…work for?